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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 09:57
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Indeed, the majority of stands are free standing.. We only have 3 airbridges which will only take certain a/c coz they are SO old.....

Aircraft should never taix onto stand which out guidence
( More pissed than me heh??!! )
Verry much agreed... But they do.. And why do they????

If ATC gives instruction to 'standby', 'hold position' or ' your slot time is...' Do they ignore these too??!! I think.. well KNOW not!!

So why is it that pilots are so impatient that they can't wait a min or two for a marshaller???? OK, he should be there at arrival but sh:t happens...... So much is expected of ground crew, I don't think that some pilots reralise!! If FOD was ingested and caused a problem... who is to blame???? Marshaller can't check a stand he's not fisically at!!! Pilot decided to taxi himself.... Yet lack of ground crew ( marshaller ) would be the first comlaint!!

Why are SERVISAIR ( who handle air southwest btw ) allowing dissembarkation without chocks inplace???? Pressure on ground staff again!!

Cones.. Well what a joke they are!!! DO NOT APPROACH AN A/C WITHOUT CONES INPLACE..... Oh coz they are really gonna stop someone in their track from hitting a plane!! Buggered APU?? Well I shouldn't give you a GPU untill beacon off, chocks inplace and coned!! So how is it that the chances of me hitting your plane in this situation are higher!!! I see your plane and avoid it!!! It's not hard!!! No other companies involved take any notice of cones..... But ground handlers are to blame again!! Yet why does the fueler approach an a/c without cones?? The bog drop man will do it too.... and cleaners.... and caterers...... Are they exempt from this rule???? I think not... but they NEVER get a ticking off!!!!

All have gone through the errrrm, sh:t computer driving test and should know the rules of the apron!!

Ground handlers seem to be VERRY under-valued... I think it's time to change and recognise the hard work done by ground handlers at CWL... OK It's not perfect.. but who is????If cabin crew are late... No one batters any eye-lid.. yet if your six down on the ground... There's hell to pay!!! For doing your job to the best of your ability and circumstances..........
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Old 22nd Jul 2006, 11:31
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Why are SERVISAIR ( who handle air southwest btw ) allowing dissembarkation without chocks inplace???? Pressure on ground staff again!!
Indeed servisair are the handling agents for Air Southwest.... But the ramp handling is subcontracted out to Aviance
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Old 24th Jul 2006, 22:09
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I know this... But it's a fairly recent thing which has resulted in Aviance taking on all of Airway staff.... Who are?? All together, part of the puenell sevices, sevisair, airway.. all the same!!!! Takes time to change!! Attitudes and a new approach are hard to mimplement in 'seasoned' staff.... So many 'new' staff and not so many Aviance staff have formed the 'new' Aviance Ramp handling...

Put it this way.. the apron is run as it was with Airway, just more work and more people.... It's not working!! A name change is all that's happened..... same people running the show!!! ( so I'm told )

Perhaps this is why I've seen trainers from other stations and a station manager from 'somewhere' else up here overlooking and improving the ramp handling ( from what I can gather! ).. Needs to be done in my experience with them!!! Loads of training going on... A damn good thing!!!
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Things with ramp seem to be improving, good work lads Heard a few of you guys were off sick due to the paint fumes from the new walkways?

Security seem to have come up with another ingenious plan to foil terrorism and make the world a safer place!!! We now cannot pass through the scanners with our hi-vis vests on, we must remove them....wtf?! If the scanner doesnt go off, it doesnt go off. What would be under our hi-vis?! So if we remove the hi-vis, maybe we'll have to remove our shirts next?!

Madness!
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Old 29th Jul 2006, 23:19
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Or even our trousers!!! I think some security employees enjoy their job a little too much!!! SORRY!!

What the hell can you hide under a hi-vis that you can't in a leatherman that you put through the x-ray machine???
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Old 30th Jul 2006, 09:25
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Can I just check, you guys are allowed leathermans?

We're not allowed them on the flight deck. If this is for security, what is there to stop one you passing it on to us, once through security.

I'm not saying you would do it but that it would be possible.
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Old 30th Jul 2006, 12:50
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Security at HMP-CWL does seem to be going a bit over the top and the staff are getting alot more 'friendly' shall we say
Anyone know if other airports are like this? The whole Hi-Viz thing seems a bit extreme, they dont make people wearing suit jackets take them off.
Maybe they fancy themselves as trend setters and hope this will catch on throughout the world and they will be famous for being so clever. (Ha!)
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Engineers are allowed..

As you say, what's stopping them from passing it on??

I have access to knives, forks, drills and saws.... All are required air-side but where are security at the a/c??? Oh of course, unless you're going to the states!!! You WON'T see them!!!!

If security air side is so vigilant.... why are airlines allowed to leave a/c without security seals on doors and holds???

Yet the ones that do implement seals, get all the credit and all hell breaks loose if one is broken by say the caterers or cleaners!!

All security one side.. nothing the next!!! No seals, no security issue!!!

One hell of an industry, one hell of difference in every circumstance!!
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Old 1st Aug 2006, 09:09
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Whats going on??

TOM having more trouble at CWL it seems! Yesterdays LPA not leaving til 12.30pm and operating back into MAN. And CUN operating from Gatwick??
TOM seem to be having bad patches throughout the season all over the country.
Any know whats going on at CWL yesterday/today?
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Old 7th Aug 2006, 17:07
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New Route

Rumour has it that Continental are going to start a 5xweekly newark-cardiff service in summer schedule 07. Also Thompsonfly will be carrying out a major expansion in cardiff, (especially to European destinations.) With 6+ operations being realeased soon!!!!!!!!
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Old 7th Aug 2006, 17:22
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Sounds great news!
New York is long overdue. But i cant see Continental operating it. Thats would affect their BRS operation quite a lot!! The only way it would work x5 wkly would be to pull out of BRS, cant see that happening. Possibly another carrier?
Its about time GSM got down here with Short and Long Haul. Baby seem to be going nowhere at the moment with CWL (or anywhere else for that matter)
TOM possibly will be operating a number of new routes through the winter - Innsbruck - Salzburg and a few others, as well as keeping the high frequency ALC and AGP routes.
Any idea on what these other routes will be?
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New York Route

Yes, Definatley on Continental. The Bristol service will be 5xweekly only next summer and due to poor loads may be cut but i think thats a bit ulikley too. Plane man
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sorry only skimmed your message I cant reallytell you what the new routes are but i can say thyre all European and starting for the summer season 07
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More specific

the routhe will be in Greece, Egypt, Italy anf France but shhh
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 11:39
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Why would Continental use Cardiff if Bristol is`nt working
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 12:02
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why cwl

I dont really know why, maybe because its further from lhr so more people, especially Americans will use the sevice.(mostly brits on brs-newark flights) also maybe larger tourism base. but they definetley are coming in summer07 5xweekly.
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Why would Continental use Cardiff if Bristol is`nt working
An excellent question. The only real reason is if CO have had a bust-up with BRS over charges, or something similar, or the BRS runway is causing them problems. No sign of either, so I really can't believe that they would transfer their operations to CWL. AS Caaaardiff rightly says, they really can't do BRS and CWL without hammering their yields, which defeats the object.

As for Thomsonfly, well I would imagine they probably are going to add routes from Cardiff. They are at heart a charter operator and will fly wherever they are chartered to. Can I guess at Heraklion, Sharm, more Naples (or possibly even a Venice for the cruise market) and as for France, I would guess Nice, again for the cruise market.
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Old 8th Aug 2006, 12:29
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Continental as far as i know are not pulling out of brs just reducing to 5x weekly year round. my contacts are in tom, cwl and a few other uk charters not continental so?
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Would CO be eligible for a grants from the Welsh Assembly if they did move their operations to CWL?

From an inbound tourism perspective, In terms of Marketing the route out of the US the Wales Tourist Board has far more money for promoting routes than South West Tourism.
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Would CO be eligible for a grants from the Welsh Assembly if they did move their operations to CWL?

From an inbound tourism perspective, In terms of Marketing the route out of the US the Wales Tourist Board has far more money for promoting routes than South West Tourism
Most definatley as the cwl route would brong more us tourists into wales than brs does to the south west as its in England and closer to LHR
Far more money and more than that plus the route development fund plus it being a new destination so large discount from cwl airport.
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