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Hi Mike
Occassionally little things happen that makes us think that an actual start up date might be approaching. Typical examples being ,a few weeks ago 40 cans for the hold baggage arrived but have now been dumped on the grass area next to the aircraft also the company have taken over an office in the Donair building complete with shiny UKIA purple boards over the windows but you never see anybody at work in there.The latest development i noticed a couple of weeks ago was the engineers who are BCT aviation had been allocated a office in the old prestige building but all they seem to do is make a daily visit to the aircraft to tinker about with things so i think in reality the start up is still a fair way off.I hope i am wrong as it would be nice to get a new long-haul up and running just to show the people who work there that East Midlands dream is just not to be Stansted number 2 with evething revolving around what Ryanair want!!!
Occassionally little things happen that makes us think that an actual start up date might be approaching. Typical examples being ,a few weeks ago 40 cans for the hold baggage arrived but have now been dumped on the grass area next to the aircraft also the company have taken over an office in the Donair building complete with shiny UKIA purple boards over the windows but you never see anybody at work in there.The latest development i noticed a couple of weeks ago was the engineers who are BCT aviation had been allocated a office in the old prestige building but all they seem to do is make a daily visit to the aircraft to tinker about with things so i think in reality the start up is still a fair way off.I hope i am wrong as it would be nice to get a new long-haul up and running just to show the people who work there that East Midlands dream is just not to be Stansted number 2 with evething revolving around what Ryanair want!!!
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Isnt the B767 tech now, I see a tarpaulin has been put up around one of the landing gears but theres been no engineer around to ask whats up with it.Its been like it for nearly two weeks, any ideas?
cheers
Isnt the B767 tech now, I see a tarpaulin has been put up around one of the landing gears but theres been no engineer around to ask whats up with it.Its been like it for nearly two weeks, any ideas?
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Have seen the engineers on it almost everyday over the last week. They seem to be doing some work on/near the LHS main gear. They have stopped the fans turning by using a combination of chocks and plastic tubing!! Also looks like the Static ports have been blocked up with supermarket sandwich bags lol!
Will wait and see what happens.
Will wait and see what happens.
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I recentally heard from a member of senior staff at the airport that they were trying to start there first flight on the 3rd September now... Is this true??
Would be nice to finally see it get away as its just sat doing nothing at the moment!
Would be nice to finally see it get away as its just sat doing nothing at the moment!
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UKIA is now moving forward rapidly. There will be some crew training flights within the next 7 days and it is hoped to have the AOC by mid-August. Commercial flights will start as soon as possible after that date.
The first aircraft has been undergoing a mandatory modification to both main landing gear. That is the reason for the tents around the gear legs. The weather has been foul.
The second aircraft is in Brunei undergoing a major check and will arrive in UK around the end of August.
The company is hiring more pilots and cabin crew. See the UKIA website.
The first aircraft has been undergoing a mandatory modification to both main landing gear. That is the reason for the tents around the gear legs. The weather has been foul.
The second aircraft is in Brunei undergoing a major check and will arrive in UK around the end of August.
The company is hiring more pilots and cabin crew. See the UKIA website.
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Weli i rang them last week in regards to cabin crew vacancies and was told they were all gone now as they recruited and trained all the crew already !
I have also rang them today from a pax view to see when they start flying and where to , and his responce, even though his english was very poor was as follows....
They are initally doing only one flight to sharjah, and in the future they are aiming to do Gambia, pakistan and another indian city, could not really understand him, sorry.
I asked him for a price for a flight on the UA, and they could not tell me ??? so i said when are you looking to start flying and he said in the next 4 weeks, and i replied back saying, well surely if you start your first flight in under 1 month surely you must be selling seats and have an idea on a price, and he said he could not give me one !!!
He also stated that they were mainly for the asian community for there pilgramage flights or something, so i said as a white person could i fly with them , and he said of course but you will be flying with asian people as this is there target audience.
I am sorry to say guys, i do wish this airline good luck, but with poor marketing, mainly there website, there poor customer service, poor communication skills and lack of pricing and start dates, i think this is going to be a dead setter.
I do ope it does work and hopeully this may inspire another airline to operate from EMA as i do think there is a market out there, not just for the asian communiy but also for other nationalities who do like to travel uter afeild and not just spain and greece. Come on someone bring a Dubai route in...
Take care Guys
Mike
Weli i rang them last week in regards to cabin crew vacancies and was told they were all gone now as they recruited and trained all the crew already !
I have also rang them today from a pax view to see when they start flying and where to , and his responce, even though his english was very poor was as follows....
They are initally doing only one flight to sharjah, and in the future they are aiming to do Gambia, pakistan and another indian city, could not really understand him, sorry.
I asked him for a price for a flight on the UA, and they could not tell me ??? so i said when are you looking to start flying and he said in the next 4 weeks, and i replied back saying, well surely if you start your first flight in under 1 month surely you must be selling seats and have an idea on a price, and he said he could not give me one !!!
He also stated that they were mainly for the asian community for there pilgramage flights or something, so i said as a white person could i fly with them , and he said of course but you will be flying with asian people as this is there target audience.
I am sorry to say guys, i do wish this airline good luck, but with poor marketing, mainly there website, there poor customer service, poor communication skills and lack of pricing and start dates, i think this is going to be a dead setter.
I do ope it does work and hopeully this may inspire another airline to operate from EMA as i do think there is a market out there, not just for the asian communiy but also for other nationalities who do like to travel uter afeild and not just spain and greece. Come on someone bring a Dubai route in...
Take care Guys
Mike
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At the risk of being pedantic, the grammar and spelling in parts of the above is poor - use of spell check would eliminate these errors
I know this is not the be all and end all of the airline, but reflects on the overall professionalism of the operation.........
I know this is not the be all and end all of the airline, but reflects on the overall professionalism of the operation.........
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Well it doesnt show much of your knowledge either does it dear Hansol?
To apply for an AOC you need to have an aircraft and to obtain flying rights you need to have an AOC.
So they have an aircraft, they have applied for their AOC and they will get landing rights once they have an AOC.
Mike
To apply for an AOC you need to have an aircraft and to obtain flying rights you need to have an AOC.
So they have an aircraft, they have applied for their AOC and they will get landing rights once they have an AOC.
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But if you have an aeroplane, an aoc and no where to fly, you are stuffed my friend. The founders of UKIA have wrongly assumed that rights to Pakistan will be easy, let me assure you they won't be.
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Well they have too many charter contracts and also Pakistan is not their only destination. They can fly to Sharjah as soon as they get their AOC. Surely when they have reached this far they wont be just sat around doing nothing with an aircraft and AOC in hand.
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Lets wait and see how th experienced team take things forward, by the way they don't have rights to Sharjah, it was only a proposed tech stop on the way to the other places they don't have rights to.
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Well my personal feelings are this is another Flywho lot.... A wanna be airline, but i must admit at least they do have a plane !!!!
When you do a search for this airline , there is nothing really, quite worrying when they start in under a months time
Mike
Well my personal feelings are this is another Flywho lot.... A wanna be airline, but i must admit at least they do have a plane !!!!
When you do a search for this airline , there is nothing really, quite worrying when they start in under a months time
Mike
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With the present restrictions on granting route licences for international operation to indigenous carriers, the chance of UKIA getting on the bilateral to operate to Pakistan is minimal.
Pak Govt requirement is that domestic carriers operate for 5 years internally before being granted international rights.
Air Blue, PIA, Aero Asia and Shaheen have traffic rights as does BA. Whether they could negotiate a deal with one of those carriers remains to be seen.
Pak Govt requirement is that domestic carriers operate for 5 years internally before being granted international rights.
Air Blue, PIA, Aero Asia and Shaheen have traffic rights as does BA. Whether they could negotiate a deal with one of those carriers remains to be seen.
To apply for an AOC you need to have an aircraft
This does seem to have been taking an inordinate amount of time to get the operation off the ground. I'm hearing that this isn't entirely helped by the big man's frequent changes of management people.
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I was out at EMA yesterday and there were lots of UKIA FAs walking around near their portacabin (oh sorry, office! 
). I'm guessing they are getting ready to start soon then?
). I'm guessing they are getting ready to start soon then?
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The CAA proving flight is getting nearer. The aircraft is currently tech (nothing major) and a test flight planned next week with a DHL TRE assisting. The DFO of UKIA has joined from Silverjet and has a few Pilots ready to go. Once the CAA AOC is granted the traffic rights should follow. From being completely sceptical i'm beginning to believe!
The CAA proving flight is getting nearer. The aircraft is currently tech (nothing major) and a test flight planned next week with a DHL TRE assisting. The DFO of UKIA has joined from Silverjet and has a few Pilots ready to go. Once the CAA AOC is granted the traffic rights should follow. From being completely sceptical i'm beginning to believe!