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Old 25th Dec 2007, 08:03
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Well, just heard that there will be no flight Christmas day, or later this week or for the time being in fact. UKIA apparently needs time to sort itself out........
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website sch shows next dep 19 feb 2008 than 2 per week.

Is the aircraft to go on lease till 18 feb?

merry christmas
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Uk International Suspend Ops

Just been informed that UKIA have indefinateley suspended operations, from EMA to ISB.

Reasons have not been given as of yet, suffice to say we are going to have hundreds of disgruntled customers a majority of them stranded in Pakistan.
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Old 25th Dec 2007, 12:09
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Oh dear! looks not a very good Christmas for the airline industry

My best wishes to all who stand to lose their jobs over UKIA and Maxjet

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Old 25th Dec 2007, 12:51
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Hopefully they will get themselves sorted, as there's a real market for a longhaul airline from EMA, particularly in connecting the Midlands' ethnic communities. Not sure they've had the best branding, aircraft or management for the job - but a good reorganisation and a few more routes to balance out a politically volatile Pakistani route might do well. Good luck to all the staff as well.
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Old 25th Dec 2007, 16:07
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Midlands market

Yes there is a Midlands market but it demands a reliable service, it is well covered from BHX and MAN to ISB.
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Nobody is going to lose their jobs at UKIA.

UKIA's statement regarding the suspension of flying - does not appear to be a financial crisis. Looks like they want to put their house in order before they continue. Probably wise decision by management.
SUSPENSION OF FLIGHTS
UKIA regrets to announce the temporary suspension of its service to Sharjah and Islamabad due to operational issues. The company is keen to put in place a number of improvements which will provide our valued customers with an enhanced flying experience and we are unable to implement these in an efficient or effective way whilst adhering to the current flying schedule.
We are entirely confident that our customers will benefit greatly from the improvements that we intend to introduce and we anticipate relaunching our brand new, enhanced service in the New Year.
We apologise to our customers for any inconvenience caused and thank them for their patience and understanding.

UKIA MANAGEMENT
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Old 26th Dec 2007, 08:35
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UKIA have been plagued by 'operational problems' since they began as Air Tigra several years ago - which never even got off the ground.
They have made their way through a myriad of really professional people who have worked hard to get things up and running, but the management teams have rolled through in droves.
The only things that have stayed the same is the fact that the airline is not in a fit state to operate (as just announced) and the head guy is still there.............
Maybe he should go back to the furniture business and let the people who know what they are doing just get on with the job.
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Old 26th Dec 2007, 11:14
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UKIA & Shaheen

For those that do not know, Shaheen Foundation is a charitable foundation of the Pakistani Air Force. Apologies for those that do know.
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Old 27th Dec 2007, 13:37
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Putting my head above the parapet...

At the risk of being branded a cynic it appears to me that the statement by the company is a meaningless collection of emollient words which would be likely to be used by a company not totally comfortable with explaining the real reasons for a service suspension...

Let me make it clear - I do not wish the company ill, nor do actually know what is happening there.

However, were someone from the company to approach me asking for investment you would not see me for the proverbial dust!
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Do you mean that they have gone tits up?
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Old 28th Dec 2007, 06:39
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UKIA B767 parked up next to the old Bmi hangar at EMA, the only thing moving was the turbine blades in the wind !!
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Old 28th Dec 2007, 12:00
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UKIA haven't gone tits up at all, but instead are totally re-organising their business model to better suit the markets that they serve, and the management team believe it's not possible to do this whilst also maintaining the current timetable. Good luck to everyone involved.
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UKIA haven't gone tits up at all, but instead are totally re-organising their business model to better suit the markets that they serve, and the management team believe it's not possible to do this whilst also maintaining the current timetable

Im no aviation management expert but, what sort of NEW establishment starts up, not offering the needs to suit the market they serve???
Was there no research, or fore thought. Seems they started with a pot luck theory thats not worked out.
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Well, the crew that I know who 'fly 'for them are all looking elsewhere, and who can really blame them?
The management have had long enough to formulate their business plan.
Ok, the re-launch might work, but the staff have to be worrying about their futures, this early into their employment. What a shame.
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I don't work for them, but was offered a job and know a few people who have moved from established carriers to go and work there. In reality they have an excellent market to capture, yet they've gone about it with a poor brand, the wrong equipment and through a certain amount of mismanagement have lost a lot of credibility. Add to all of that the way some staff feel they've been treated, and it's all a rather sorry picture. Hopefully they can get their finances and operations sorted and really make a go of things.
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Old 28th Dec 2007, 17:33
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In the current climate I wouldn't fancy flying to Islamabad would you, I guess things could escalate and the Foreign Office may say dont go there.
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Old 28th Dec 2007, 18:22
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Remember though that ISB is not the only destination which UKIA is interested in flying to; they wanted to very quickly expand into linking the East Midlands with longhaul business centres or the origins of the area's ethnic communities with 2 or 3 flights a week. Presumably this is being factored in as part of the restructuring.
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Old 28th Dec 2007, 18:35
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What's an "enhanced flying experience" got to do with a revamped business model? The only combination where that makes sense is if they are currently ripping out all economy seats to replace them with business class seats because that's what their market research has told them...
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Old 28th Dec 2007, 19:13
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Smile Mismanagement?

Well it seems coincidental that half the management team has been suspended from duty at the same time that the crew are complaining they have been "mismanaged".... could there be a link here?

Perhaps if they get rid of the bunglers then the airline may find its feet again and return to flying punters to enitrely new destinations from EMA - they are trail blazing into a new market and they have plans to expand to other areas of the world.

Tragic though the assassination of Benazir Bhutto is, airlines are still going to continue flying to/from Pakistan, just like when there were bombs on the London underground, airlines didn't suddenly stop going to Heathrow.

There seem to be lots of good people there and I heard that they have also rejected some unsuitable applicants in the past, so they are not that desperate.

Let's see what happens in the next few weeks - could be very interesting. I bet fifty quid they are flying again by the end of January, any takers?
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