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Is that for 2013, if so its a wee bit late for some folk who will already have booked the holiday flights.
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Yes the website says the same, but the route map from the UK shows also EDI-TFS/SPL so not sure, but with TFS a new base from November with 2 units in addition to 6 at LPA I guess direct flights maybe on the cards ? I think a figure of 370 flights a week from LGW by end of Summer rings a bell and everyone thinks a 787 is likely at LGW late next year
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I would say the Norwegian B787 visits to LGW starts this summer. The first B787 will arrive OSL end of June. This aircraft will be used for crew training out of OSL, ARN and CPH on regular flights to ALC, BCN and LGW.
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Perhaps Norwegian once they have a few Boeing 787s in service may consider a LGW to FLL route similar to there forthcoming Oslo to Fort Lauderdale route, it would give LGW a new destination in the USA plus it would be a very niche route to operate.
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Long shot I accept, but as a regular user of the BA flights, am curious if anyone has heard even the remotest rumour of a replacement...LHR is a way away, and the train is a pain...day returns are now a thing of the past. It seems to me that LGW had a discrete catchment area plus of course a bunch of long haul (Caribbean and Florida predominantly) that may have also been fed from MAN. That said, yields on the slots presumably higher on whatever BA are flying instead....
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Slot sale
All this speculation is indeed about FlyBe. The Sundy Times is reporting that EasyJet could buy all of FlyBe's Gatwick slots for £20m although FlyBe is thought to also be talking to other airlines.
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...cle1258087.ece
Would this be FlyBe out of the London market then? Has anybody heard anything about a possible move to another London airport or would they just pocket this extra £20m should they sell?
Will be intersting to see if EasyJet pick up some existing FlyBe routes eg. LGW-NCL or if they would just use the slots for more new routes across Europe... Or if there's anything new from BA/IAG or another carrier?
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...cle1258087.ece
Would this be FlyBe out of the London market then? Has anybody heard anything about a possible move to another London airport or would they just pocket this extra £20m should they sell?
Will be intersting to see if EasyJet pick up some existing FlyBe routes eg. LGW-NCL or if they would just use the slots for more new routes across Europe... Or if there's anything new from BA/IAG or another carrier?
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Worth considering that flybe carry BA codeshare flight numbers on several routes onto LGW for the purpose of onward connections.
Is it beyond the realms to hope that BA might pick up the slots and add some domestic capacity back to LGW and expand ?
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Is it beyond the realms to hope that BA might pick up the slots and add some domestic capacity back to LGW and expand ?
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It would be odd. They abandoned the markets at NCL, ABZ, IOM and INV to flybe and simply dropped MAN. What rationale would they have for going back? Feed is not a key focus at LGW for BA.
You'd have to be super loyal to BA to use a one stop via LGW rather than fly direct. They also have a one wave long haul operation which mostly ends before mid afternoon.
You'd have to be super loyal to BA to use a one stop via LGW rather than fly direct. They also have a one wave long haul operation which mostly ends before mid afternoon.
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Apart from Flybe and possibly also Aurigny, are there any other airlines that are likely to be vulnerable to Gatwick's landing fees squeezing out aircraft operating with relatively small numbers of passengers at peak times ?
I wondered if Atlantic Airways might perhaps slightly change their schedule by a couple of hours to move from peak to off-peak times, but with a monopoly seasonal route flown twice per week with an RJ85, I doubt they would notice the price hike that much
I wondered if Atlantic Airways might perhaps slightly change their schedule by a couple of hours to move from peak to off-peak times, but with a monopoly seasonal route flown twice per week with an RJ85, I doubt they would notice the price hike that much
On a separate note, the fact that Flybe are talking to specific airlines about slots suggests that the slots will not go into the general pool but will instead be sold in return for cash or at least something of value.
I'm aware that slots at Heathrow have a significant monetary value, but how often has it happened in the past that Gatwick slots have been sold for cash ?
I'm aware that slots at Heathrow have a significant monetary value, but how often has it happened in the past that Gatwick slots have been sold for cash ?
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£20 Million would be small beer for FR,EZ or DY,BA could also buy for vueling or its own gatwick operation. Is this the start of the end for Flybe, of course BA still own around 14% of Flybe?
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I don't think so, it's most likely they just want out of Gatwick because they're so naffed off by the pricing structure. EasyJet will be willing to get straight in there and buy them out because they are like vultures at Gatwick, any opportunity to grow then they will, perhaps also a move by EasyJet to entice them out of Gatwick promptly?
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25 pairs of slots, how much of flybe's operation will this affect at LGW, or is this them pulling out?
Just hope my friends at flybe are not seriously affected by this.
Just hope my friends at flybe are not seriously affected by this.
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Airbourne,
"25 pairs of slots, how much of flybe's operation will this affect at LGW, or is this them pulling out?"
There are 25 Flybe flights listed at LGW today, so presumably, this deal is for the entire LGW operation.
I can't see the airline dropping the London market, so I would expect surely, a move to LTN/STN/SEN as a real possibility. Flybe already serves LTN, but is there enough room for them to fly in/out in terms of available stands?
"25 pairs of slots, how much of flybe's operation will this affect at LGW, or is this them pulling out?"
There are 25 Flybe flights listed at LGW today, so presumably, this deal is for the entire LGW operation.
I can't see the airline dropping the London market, so I would expect surely, a move to LTN/STN/SEN as a real possibility. Flybe already serves LTN, but is there enough room for them to fly in/out in terms of available stands?