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Old 17th Oct 2013, 21:57
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How many LHR slots do they use daily ? What could IAG be about to do with them?
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 21:58
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All Vueling routes from Lhr are off sale after March 14. Could they be about to move all to Lgw?
Looks like LGW could be a bloodbath next year on pricing with IAG using Vueling to go after Easyjet passengers.
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Old 17th Oct 2013, 22:14
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How many LHR slots do they [Vueling] use daily ? What could IAG be about to do with them?
Arrival and depature slot times currently used at Heathrow for each of Vueling's routes
Bilbao arr 1650 dep 1735 - daily
A Coruna - arr 1610 dep 1715 - daily
Florence - arr 1540 dep 1635 - daily
Palma de Mallorca - arr 1030 dep 1140 - 5x (?) weekly

I'm sure IAG can find a good use for almost 4 daily slot pairs with a bit of careful tweaking of other flights

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Old 17th Oct 2013, 22:24
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Almost sounds like a new domestic or shorthaul euro route !
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Old 18th Oct 2013, 06:37
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Arrival and departure slot times currently used at Heathrow for each of Vueling's routes
Bilbao arr 1650 dep 1735 - daily
A Coruna - arr 1610 dep 1715 - daily
Florence - arr 1540 dep 1635 - daily
Palma de Mallorca - arr 1030 dep 1140 - 5x (?) weekly
All four routes, including PMI, are served daily at the moment.
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Old 18th Oct 2013, 07:25
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They're all routes that could easily operate successfully from LGW. Given the Norwegian & easyJet expansions there it might be a good opportunity for IAG to boost their LGW operation. These would be nice additions to their LGW base. I hope it happens
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Old 18th Oct 2013, 14:21
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All Vueling routes from Lhr are off sale after March 14. Could they be about to move all to Lgw?
TrueBlue - are you sure Vueling's last current sale date for Heathrow flights is March 14 and not March 29 ? Vueling website seems quite happy to quote me a price for Saturday 29 March which happens to be the last day of the winter season.

I'm wondering if there is the simple possibility that S14 have not yet been fully released and we're reading too much into the situation at the moment
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Old 18th Oct 2013, 14:27
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I was referring to March 2014
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Old 18th Oct 2013, 14:28
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Whoops - my mistake then...
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Old 18th Oct 2013, 21:13
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On a rolling 12 month period, to Sept 13, Lgw is within 100k pax of its previous all time high, calender year 2007. Wonder if they could exceed that in 2013?

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On a rolling 12 month period, to Sept 13, Lgw is within 100k pax of its previous all time high, calender year 2007. Wonder if they could exceed that in 2013?
Assumming no snow until 2014 then its a probable, add in couple of days closure due to snow then unlikely.
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Old 19th Oct 2013, 07:26
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Long haul

The Gatwick press release about the Norwegian long haul launch calls it a "game changer" & states "it points to a future where more & more long haul routes will be served by Gatwick"

A very confident & upbeat view which I hope comes to fruition. Given the long haul routes routes which have started & stopped in recent times - Seoul, Kuala Lumpar etc, I wonder where all this long haul growth is going to come from - what are the airlines & routes that are likely to deliver this growth beyond those already announced?
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Old 19th Oct 2013, 07:39
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It is called spin dear boy - spin! Gatwick will always be a ´´waiting room´´ for Heathrow on long haul except for some ´´bucket and spade´´ destinations and so called low cost - remember Air Asia, Oasis etc.
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Old 19th Oct 2013, 12:42
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More spin

Didn't the boss of LGW threaten to resign if his airport is not on the shortlist for expansion............

It is a pity that this probably won't become another "hat-eating" episode (similar to the "AI at BHX won't happen" issue).

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Old 23rd Oct 2013, 12:44
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Norweigan to start LGW-Tel Aviv & EasyJet to start LGW-Paris (CDG)

Norweigan have announced new route to Tel Aviv from LGW commencing on 01 April 2014


DY494 LGW0600 – 1300TLV 73H 247
DY495 TLV1400 – 1705LGW 73H 247

Additionally, EasyJet just announced new route to Paris (CDG)

Flights get under way at the end of March 2014.

Flights will depart London Gatwick at 1445 and 1700, arriving into CDG at 1700 and 2020 respectively. They will return from Paris CDG at 0710 and 1745, arriving at 0720 and 1755.*
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Old 23rd Oct 2013, 20:41
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U2 LGW-CDG

So who said that the Channel Tunnel and high speed rail would eliminate the need for short haul?

Clearly this new route illustrates well that this is not the case for HS1 and would not be for HS2.

It increases choice and opportunity: air, train or ferries for Europe, Ireland and Northern Ireland, air, train or road for the rest of the UK, which is obviously beneficial for pax. It's not "either/or/or" it's "all".

However, the other side of the coin is that any concept of a Shoreham (ESH)-Pontoise (POX) route is probably now history.

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Old 23rd Oct 2013, 21:18
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Great news that CDG is back on the map from LGW. Bit surprised that there's no morning departure from LGW though, perhaps to be added later?

Still, it's a great addition to their LGW schedule
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Old 23rd Oct 2013, 21:40
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As all are aware, Gatwick is now pretty much full with slots having a clear monetary value on a use-it-or-lose-it basis
It's possible that I'm being overly cynical, but for routes like LGW-NCL and/or LGW-CDG, I'm wondering if Easyjet are effectively using these routes partly as slot warmers, simply because they either haven't got enough spare aircraft or can't figure out anything better to do with them ?
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Old 23rd Oct 2013, 21:51
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It's possible that I'm being overly cynical, but for routes like LGW-NCL and/or LGW-CDG, I'm wondering if Easyjet are effectively using these routes partly as slot warmers,
Not unreasonable but will be interesting to see how the LGW-CDG route operates.......
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Old 23rd Oct 2013, 21:58
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As all are aware, Gatwick is now pretty much full
Well Gatwick themselves don't seem to be aware of that:

"At Gatwick we have around 25% spare capacity and can therefore continue to provide the connectivity to growth markets which London and the UK needs."

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