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Flights to and from Moscow were always full so I very much doubt visa issues were to blame. Been getting a Russ visa for years and with the exception of biometrics, nothing has changed uk to Russia.
The other way is not that different either, it was alway difficult.
Doesn't Norwegian have a uk aoc for the 787 ops?
Transaero operated into Lhr prior to the codeshare with easy so I assumed they got the route partially after bmi stopped.
Easy maybe just diverting resources to more profitable routes?
The other way is not that different either, it was alway difficult.
Doesn't Norwegian have a uk aoc for the 787 ops?
Transaero operated into Lhr prior to the codeshare with easy so I assumed they got the route partially after bmi stopped.
Easy maybe just diverting resources to more profitable routes?
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AOC
Correct Norwegian holds an AOC in the UK & Ireland & Norway. Hold UK AOC means it can take any bi-lateral it wishes. EZY no longer flies to DME therefore any UK airline can take over. Although you will not see Norwegian in Moscow because it needs two way traffic.....natuarlly. Someone said east ? If it was east then BKK first. Maybe DEL or BOM after. LGW-BKK and BHX-DEL or BOM.
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Remember also that some bi-lateral air service agreements between the UK and non-EU countries have historically also had an ownership restriction whereby the operating carrier had to be able to prove that they were majority owned in the country from which they intended to operate.
The UK DfT has progressively sought to amend any such remaining bi-laterals in order that, even if the partner country will only accept a UK-AOC holder rather than more generally an AOC-holder from within the EU, they might accept that the carrier might hold a UK AOC even though they are not majority owned here (such was the case for example, when Monarch was Swiss owned but a UK-AOC wishing to fly scheduled services between UK and Egypt etc)
I'm not sure whether this 'ownership' restriction is still in place between the UK and Russia (or indeed, India, Thailand or anywhere else outside the EU that has been mooted as possible destinations for Norwegian)...
The UK DfT has progressively sought to amend any such remaining bi-laterals in order that, even if the partner country will only accept a UK-AOC holder rather than more generally an AOC-holder from within the EU, they might accept that the carrier might hold a UK AOC even though they are not majority owned here (such was the case for example, when Monarch was Swiss owned but a UK-AOC wishing to fly scheduled services between UK and Egypt etc)
I'm not sure whether this 'ownership' restriction is still in place between the UK and Russia (or indeed, India, Thailand or anywhere else outside the EU that has been mooted as possible destinations for Norwegian)...
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Terminal 'Swop' Put Back to January 2017
Change of Plan: -
"Gatwick has delayed the forthcoming reshuffle of carriers at the airport until early 2017.
The move had been scheduled to take place this November, with British Airways moving its entire operations from the North to the South Terminal, Easyjet consolidating within the North Terminal, and Virgin Atlantic switching from the South to the North Terminal.
However following recent discussions with all parties involved, Gatwick has decided to shift this date until January 25, 2017.
Commenting on the decision, the airport's communications manager Camilla Wrey said:
“January is a great time in the operational calendar after the busy Christmas period, and before the February half term ski getaway.
“If we look back to the beginning of last year, we were talking about the moves taking place around November 2016, but once we all got into the detailed planning, and worked together to understand all the interdependencies and the full scope of the programme, it was mutually decided that January 2017 is the optimum timeframe.”
BA closed its lounge at Gatwick’s North Terminal in January, to allow for construction work to take place on Virgin's forthcoming lounge at the terminal (see news September 22, 2015).
Eligible BA passengers currently have access to the No. 1 Traveller lounge at the terminal".
"Gatwick has delayed the forthcoming reshuffle of carriers at the airport until early 2017.
The move had been scheduled to take place this November, with British Airways moving its entire operations from the North to the South Terminal, Easyjet consolidating within the North Terminal, and Virgin Atlantic switching from the South to the North Terminal.
However following recent discussions with all parties involved, Gatwick has decided to shift this date until January 25, 2017.
Commenting on the decision, the airport's communications manager Camilla Wrey said:
“January is a great time in the operational calendar after the busy Christmas period, and before the February half term ski getaway.
“If we look back to the beginning of last year, we were talking about the moves taking place around November 2016, but once we all got into the detailed planning, and worked together to understand all the interdependencies and the full scope of the programme, it was mutually decided that January 2017 is the optimum timeframe.”
BA closed its lounge at Gatwick’s North Terminal in January, to allow for construction work to take place on Virgin's forthcoming lounge at the terminal (see news September 22, 2015).
Eligible BA passengers currently have access to the No. 1 Traveller lounge at the terminal".
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TCX Long Haul S17
The (very) early release of the Summer 2017 long haul schedule shows no major changes for LGW, however it is good to see that TCX have slowly started to increase it again from a low of just 3 weekly flights last year (2x Cancun + 1x Holguin).
Cancun - 2 weekly
Cayo Coco - 1 weekly
Holguin - 1 weekly
Orlando - 3 weekly (2 weekly in S16)
Cancun - 2 weekly
Cayo Coco - 1 weekly
Holguin - 1 weekly
Orlando - 3 weekly (2 weekly in S16)
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Hello!
Ryanair resumes ALC-LGW route from 31 of October with 6 weekly flights, daily flights except Sunday
The new route is now on sale in Ryanair's web.
ALC - LGW
FR2714: 15:25 - 17:05 - 1/3/5
FR2714: 08:10 - 09:50 - 2/4/6
LGW-ALC
FR2715: 17:35 - 21:05 - 1/3/5
FR2715: 10:25 - 13:55 - 2/4/6
A greeting!
Ryanair resumes ALC-LGW route from 31 of October with 6 weekly flights, daily flights except Sunday
The new route is now on sale in Ryanair's web.ALC - LGW
FR2714: 15:25 - 17:05 - 1/3/5
FR2714: 08:10 - 09:50 - 2/4/6
LGW-ALC
FR2715: 17:35 - 21:05 - 1/3/5
FR2715: 10:25 - 13:55 - 2/4/6
A greeting!
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Re Vueling LGW TO ASTURIUS
Iberia Express have also just released details regarding their new flights from LHR to Asturius for summer 2016, seems rather strange for Vueling to also start flights to this northern Spanish city, with Easyjet also on the route ex STN that's a huge increase in the amount of seats available to this destination.
Iberia Express have also just released details regarding their new flights from LHR to Asturius for summer 2016, seems rather strange for Vueling to also start flights to this northern Spanish city, with Easyjet also on the route ex STN that's a huge increase in the amount of seats available to this destination.
Came through Gatwick North today, once through airside I note that the splitting of the former gates 57-63 to 557-574, more suited to more A320/B737 types is finally finished! Yaaay.
In other news, everything else has gone to Hell. easyJet bag drop is now downstairs in a windowless basement (formerly Intl Arrivals) and an army of the minimum wage brigade in dayglo yellow is on hand upstairs to tell you to go back downstairs. Well, some of them can, the few who can speak English that is. The main security was closed for "reasons" and so we were, let's run with "directed" down the end to a new security hall which has adopted the approach designed by those who had never set foot in an airport before. You know, the one that made EDI an international laughing stock.
Queue, then be told to stand on a number. Of course should you not have English language skills, man shouts and points. Two lanes of trays, six feet to stand on, no logical flow and then you are expected to pick up your enormous plastic tray on the other side and carry it off across the room to a stand up desk to empty it. This is what GIP did at EDI where it was a proven failure. It astonishes me, and the staff I spoke to, they think the same dogs breakfast will work at Gatwick.
Shame as Gatwick South kinda just works.
In other news, everything else has gone to Hell. easyJet bag drop is now downstairs in a windowless basement (formerly Intl Arrivals) and an army of the minimum wage brigade in dayglo yellow is on hand upstairs to tell you to go back downstairs. Well, some of them can, the few who can speak English that is. The main security was closed for "reasons" and so we were, let's run with "directed" down the end to a new security hall which has adopted the approach designed by those who had never set foot in an airport before. You know, the one that made EDI an international laughing stock.
Queue, then be told to stand on a number. Of course should you not have English language skills, man shouts and points. Two lanes of trays, six feet to stand on, no logical flow and then you are expected to pick up your enormous plastic tray on the other side and carry it off across the room to a stand up desk to empty it. This is what GIP did at EDI where it was a proven failure. It astonishes me, and the staff I spoke to, they think the same dogs breakfast will work at Gatwick.
Shame as Gatwick South kinda just works.
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Have to say, passed through North terminal a few days ago, didn't experience any of this with security, has it changed very recently?
Re the Easyjet bag drop, I think it is great, same level as the train station. You would need to be a complete clown to miss it, it is large and very well sign posted.
Always have a very pleasant experience passing through this terminal.
Re the Easyjet bag drop, I think it is great, same level as the train station. You would need to be a complete clown to miss it, it is large and very well sign posted.
Always have a very pleasant experience passing through this terminal.
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I have also never had any problems with the North Terminal, I have always found it brilliant and the queues are very short, apart from the queues at the EZY check-in/bag drop, that's why flying with BA just makes it better, no queues to be seen, even in the peak season.
A "complete clown" you say? I guess we were all clowns as there were so many staff on hand to redirect. The passenger flow was changed to get customers to use the lifts from the transit to departures which people do, next to a huge sign saying "DEPARTURES". You know, where it was last time. Of course it's now on the same level, which people now learn by going the wrong way and being redirected, hence the many, many people in yellow redirecting.
Clearly we're all complete clowns.
Arrival back was also chaos as UK BORDER is being rebuilt and only three eborders gates in use. Ten shiny new ones being tested. It'll be nice when it's finished.
Btw, fly at peak times and queues are a nightmare, LGW has waves, best avoid peak.
Clearly we're all complete clowns.
Arrival back was also chaos as UK BORDER is being rebuilt and only three eborders gates in use. Ten shiny new ones being tested. It'll be nice when it's finished.
Btw, fly at peak times and queues are a nightmare, LGW has waves, best avoid peak.
Did you not listen to Alex on the shuttle over?
'Proceed straight ahead to the bag drop area...'
You would have to be a complete clown to miss it.
You're right on the security though. I took one look at the queue at the far end of the hall the other day and then turned straight back and found that the security next to the BA desks was open, and a lot quieter.
'Proceed straight ahead to the bag drop area...'
You would have to be a complete clown to miss it.
You're right on the security though. I took one look at the queue at the far end of the hall the other day and then turned straight back and found that the security next to the BA desks was open, and a lot quieter.
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Clearly we're all complete clowns.
Maybe you want to also edit your post to remove what some others might find offensive in how you describe
minimum wage brigade
OK fair point.
In terms of a customer experience it's not great when the business needs to have manual intervention by temp staff whom they pay peanuts to parrot one message and are told nothing else.
One used to get off the transit and enter the terminal at the same level and go upstairs to departures. Then along came the extension where customers were "encouraged" to take the lifts immediately on exiting the transit and go upstairs before enetering the building. Frequent travellers are often now so conditioned and now need to be redirected back from whence they came. So job done in changing behaviour only to have to change it back again !
I heard it on the way back, still didn't register. And as a serious point, people are so bombarded with trivial announcements that many just tune them out, and so the helpful ones are lost. That's a quantifiable human behaviour, the sheer volume of random PA's while I waited for my train back is evidence of that. People pop the headphones in and ignore that 95% noise, missing the little useful gem.
The security guy I got chatting to agreed the EDI system was likely to cause massive headaches in the summer, because once again, it needs someone to instruct you manually, and assumes you speak English. Good design just W O R K S without all of the manual faff.
Now excuse me, am off back to the circus !
In terms of a customer experience it's not great when the business needs to have manual intervention by temp staff whom they pay peanuts to parrot one message and are told nothing else.
One used to get off the transit and enter the terminal at the same level and go upstairs to departures. Then along came the extension where customers were "encouraged" to take the lifts immediately on exiting the transit and go upstairs before enetering the building. Frequent travellers are often now so conditioned
and now need to be redirected back from whence they came. So job done in changing behaviour only to have to change it back again !
Did you not listen to Alex on the shuttle over?
The security guy I got chatting to agreed the EDI system was likely to cause massive headaches in the summer, because once again, it needs someone to instruct you manually, and assumes you speak English. Good design just W O R K S without all of the manual faff.
Now excuse me, am off back to the circus !