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The so called North Terminal is a combination of a tent and the DHL and TNT warehouses.
In fairness the Cork Airport Authority are doing their best in very difficult circumstances. In my view it would help their cause if senior figures spoke directly to the media about the airport as was the case in the past.
At least we would then be clearer about the situation.
Forget about the new terminal for the forseeable future. Hopefully the truth will eventually emerge about why this project has taken so long to come to fruition.
In fairness the Cork Airport Authority are doing their best in very difficult circumstances. In my view it would help their cause if senior figures spoke directly to the media about the airport as was the case in the past.
At least we would then be clearer about the situation.
Forget about the new terminal for the forseeable future. Hopefully the truth will eventually emerge about why this project has taken so long to come to fruition.
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ryan2000, that last paragraph of yours is left hanging so tantalisingly - it just cries out for more discussion/revalation!?
Yes, it beats me why the crowd at the top at Cork are so reluctant to speak out. Some plain speaking on the airport would do no harm. Of course, they may be just toothless, clueless or both and are happy to take the calculated gamble and say nothing knowing that the likes of Sean Citizen don't care too much as long as there is not daily fog and lashing rain to spoil their flight to Santa Ponsa! Perhaps, the DAA and the political masters like it that way too? Why rock the boat - they can still knock off every day at 5 pm and later draw the pension whether there is the business or not?
Maybe, they are just disheartened? Cork Airport can be a very vexing place!
Yes, it beats me why the crowd at the top at Cork are so reluctant to speak out. Some plain speaking on the airport would do no harm. Of course, they may be just toothless, clueless or both and are happy to take the calculated gamble and say nothing knowing that the likes of Sean Citizen don't care too much as long as there is not daily fog and lashing rain to spoil their flight to Santa Ponsa! Perhaps, the DAA and the political masters like it that way too? Why rock the boat - they can still knock off every day at 5 pm and later draw the pension whether there is the business or not?
Maybe, they are just disheartened? Cork Airport can be a very vexing place!
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Well, the drama at Cork has well and truely begun. All the cross channel flights to England and Wales have been jammed since last night with some Cardiff bound rugby fans even taking the bmi baby flight to Durham Tees Valley to get them on their way to the ultimate destination in the Welsh capital for the big game!
There have been a lot of bizjet arrivals yesterday and today too and just now in last little while runway 25/07 has been closed and a Cessna 560 is due to position from Stand 2 to the threshold of runway 07 for overnight parking. Even the local aircraft from Atlantic Flight Training, the two Cessna 172s and the Piper Seneca are all lined up to cross the Irish Sea tomorrow for the game.
The weather forecast from 4 pm to 8 pm was giving a met viz of 400 metres but so far The Pox of Cork has been kept at bay. Long may it last!
There have been a lot of bizjet arrivals yesterday and today too and just now in last little while runway 25/07 has been closed and a Cessna 560 is due to position from Stand 2 to the threshold of runway 07 for overnight parking. Even the local aircraft from Atlantic Flight Training, the two Cessna 172s and the Piper Seneca are all lined up to cross the Irish Sea tomorrow for the game.
The weather forecast from 4 pm to 8 pm was giving a met viz of 400 metres but so far The Pox of Cork has been kept at bay. Long may it last!
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Tonight's EZY788 returned to Cork after take-off with a pressurisation problem. Aircraft landed safely and parked in Stand 17 no less and is, thankfully, just getting underway again back to Gatwick. If she had needed to stay for a few more hours the parking arrangements for the widebodies for early Saturday would have been in a heap!
No known update on the Corse Air 747. Still 7 am arrival is as much as I know.
No known update on the Corse Air 747. Still 7 am arrival is as much as I know.
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Yesterday, Saturday, 20th May, 2006 was for once memorable for all the right reasons at Cork Airport. The morning's operations for the rugby charters both landside and airside worked well and credit where credit is due to all the people and staff that brought it all together on the day. Some folk had reported for duty on the night before and were still on duty at 9.30 am Saturday and even after all that remained in good spirits.
It was kind of sad to see the new terminal all but ignored for the operation. A big marquis was set up for the rugby check-ins on the ground floor at the back of the new multi storey car park and passengers went airside through the DHL, TNT and EMC facilities. If you like, Terminals 3, 4, 5 & 6 with the 200 million Euro Terminal 2 left out in the cold. What a pity!
Clearly, things went wrong with the boarding of the Monarch Boeing 767 as all the pax had to be disembarked again from the aircraft after boarding! That looked terrible all right. I have no idea how that problem occured but I presume the pax who boarded the 767 were meant for the second A300-600 flight later in the morning? However, it was good to see the result of some lateral brain application to get around Cork's red line problem by the new terminal for anything bigger than a 757 as the 767 was pushed tail in to the stand rather than by the nose! A Cork solution to a Cork problem!
Cork's Evening Echo on Saturday evening made a big thing of the 767 disembarkation going on about chaos at Cork Airport in banner headlines but I think their take was unfair because all other operations seemed to work out fine without any other major hitches. Top marks all around and my score for the morning would be 9/10 with just the one point being lost for the 767 boarding cock-up.
The Flyjet 757 arrived a good hour or more earlier than she ought to and at the time she had to shut down just off Taxiway Alpha as both Excel 737s, the Monarch A300 and the Verona bound Pegasus 737-400 on a hire in for Eirjet were all still on the ground so the packed ramp was quite an impressive sight. Runway 25/07 was closed too with two Aer Arann ATR parked at the 25 end and the Citation 560 was at the 07 end adorned with temporary floodlights for company for the night hours.
The Corse Air 747-400 was a wonderful sight and made the day at Cork Airport. She landed on 35 and exited at Alpha where she was then push-backed to that new stand, Stand 17, is it? She was loaded fairly quickly and all told she had 571 outbound passengers aboard for the short flight to Birmingham. What a huge load on one flight! The take off from 35 was great and as noted above she was airborne just after the intersection. That was great and she looked fabulous. Some very lucky and privileged passegers had a great treat.
A good few other bizjets and turboprops dropped in for their VIPs and along with the FlyBe BAe146 (RJ?), the two MDs from Aviajet and Dubrovnik Airline Cork Airport had a great, great day. Does not come much better than that!
Good to see some of Cork's top brass on the ground taking a real interest in the day's goings on. If I am not careful I may have to begin registering the odd note of optimism for Cork Airport's future!
It was kind of sad to see the new terminal all but ignored for the operation. A big marquis was set up for the rugby check-ins on the ground floor at the back of the new multi storey car park and passengers went airside through the DHL, TNT and EMC facilities. If you like, Terminals 3, 4, 5 & 6 with the 200 million Euro Terminal 2 left out in the cold. What a pity!
Clearly, things went wrong with the boarding of the Monarch Boeing 767 as all the pax had to be disembarked again from the aircraft after boarding! That looked terrible all right. I have no idea how that problem occured but I presume the pax who boarded the 767 were meant for the second A300-600 flight later in the morning? However, it was good to see the result of some lateral brain application to get around Cork's red line problem by the new terminal for anything bigger than a 757 as the 767 was pushed tail in to the stand rather than by the nose! A Cork solution to a Cork problem!
Cork's Evening Echo on Saturday evening made a big thing of the 767 disembarkation going on about chaos at Cork Airport in banner headlines but I think their take was unfair because all other operations seemed to work out fine without any other major hitches. Top marks all around and my score for the morning would be 9/10 with just the one point being lost for the 767 boarding cock-up.
The Flyjet 757 arrived a good hour or more earlier than she ought to and at the time she had to shut down just off Taxiway Alpha as both Excel 737s, the Monarch A300 and the Verona bound Pegasus 737-400 on a hire in for Eirjet were all still on the ground so the packed ramp was quite an impressive sight. Runway 25/07 was closed too with two Aer Arann ATR parked at the 25 end and the Citation 560 was at the 07 end adorned with temporary floodlights for company for the night hours.
The Corse Air 747-400 was a wonderful sight and made the day at Cork Airport. She landed on 35 and exited at Alpha where she was then push-backed to that new stand, Stand 17, is it? She was loaded fairly quickly and all told she had 571 outbound passengers aboard for the short flight to Birmingham. What a huge load on one flight! The take off from 35 was great and as noted above she was airborne just after the intersection. That was great and she looked fabulous. Some very lucky and privileged passegers had a great treat.
A good few other bizjets and turboprops dropped in for their VIPs and along with the FlyBe BAe146 (RJ?), the two MDs from Aviajet and Dubrovnik Airline Cork Airport had a great, great day. Does not come much better than that!
Good to see some of Cork's top brass on the ground taking a real interest in the day's goings on. If I am not careful I may have to begin registering the odd note of optimism for Cork Airport's future!
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Well Done Cork
Management and staff at Cork must be complimented for the way they handled the massive influx of visitors for the weekend. A total of 9 widebody flights operated. There is also evidence in recent weeks that the negative attitude towards Corporate Jets and General Aviation is changing.
Has it finally hit home that forcing aircraft to park at Kerry and Shannon when there are stands free at Cork results in a loss of revenue and a lack of confidence in the airport by investors and visitors.
Closing Runway 25/07 was also a help as this runway is no longer of any use to commercial operations with the exception of Aer Arann and even they rarely use it.
Has it finally hit home that forcing aircraft to park at Kerry and Shannon when there are stands free at Cork results in a loss of revenue and a lack of confidence in the airport by investors and visitors.
Closing Runway 25/07 was also a help as this runway is no longer of any use to commercial operations with the exception of Aer Arann and even they rarely use it.
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Yesterday's Sunday Business Post had a story that Delta Airlines are in talks with Cork, Kerry and Belfast airports about commencing transatlantic services to these airports. This is in addition to Delta increasing their services to Dublin and Shannon. Lets hope these talks develop into new routes!
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thanks to you all
it's great to see cork so well covered by such a knowledgeable and passionate bunch on this site. thanks to ye all.
i pass through fairly regularly from the uk
have they sorted the flyover down at the bottom of the hill yet ?
i pass through fairly regularly from the uk
have they sorted the flyover down at the bottom of the hill yet ?
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Roundabouts, Flyovers and a Sea King
No, the roundabout/flyerover is still a mess. It will be great when it finally opens.
I'm interested that nobody mentioned the Sea King of 771 Squadron, RNAS Culdrose (SAR Ops) that was based at EICK over the weekend. 771 was here for Sea Sunday in Kinsale and an exercise that took place in Kinsale's outer harbour on Saturday (though covered by a press embargo which meant that most people missed a great show).
Amusingly the battery cover at the front carries their emblem - a black shamrock (actually the ace of clubs).
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I'm interested that nobody mentioned the Sea King of 771 Squadron, RNAS Culdrose (SAR Ops) that was based at EICK over the weekend. 771 was here for Sea Sunday in Kinsale and an exercise that took place in Kinsale's outer harbour on Saturday (though covered by a press embargo which meant that most people missed a great show).
Amusingly the battery cover at the front carries their emblem - a black shamrock (actually the ace of clubs).
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Yes, the RN Sea King should have got a mention but my ommission shows how changed operations are now at Cork compared to times past when a Sea King's arrival would have up to date news blaring out on Cork Airport FM! The commercial traffic at Cork is now the life blood and in the fluidity and drama of the rugby airlift the poor Sea King was forgotten. I had thought she and her crew were resting up after a SAR operation.
The work on the flyover at the Kinsale Road (Magic) Roundabout has been continuing apace. The bridges are in place at what will be both the east and west exits to the N25. Most of work now looks like the filling in of earthworks in preparation for the new roads leading up and down from the bridges. The timescale is something I am not sure of but popular opinion says the project is ahead of schedule. The congestion is a little bit less now at the roundabout but it is somewhat smoke and mirrors as the bottleneck at rush hour is now further back towards the airport at the dangerous junction by Bull McCabes bar where there are new traffic lights. From the safety point of view the traffic lights are very welcome in my opinion.
Last Sunday the excitement did not cease at Cork Airport. Apart from the welcome return of the rugby fans there were two fab visitors, a DH Dove and a Portuguese TriStar on a hire in for Eirjet(?) to Faro. Also, it was like olden times between the airport and the terminal with the roads jammed up with traffic due to relations coming to collect loved ones off the rugby flights mixing with the busy weekend comings and goings.
Even last night the nostalgia continued as TNT had to hire in an Air Atlantique Electra in place of the usual BAe 146. Finally, all the signs are indeed there that Cork Airport is once again becoming more welcoming to corporate visitors - today so far and yesterday has seen the arrival of a lot of bizjet traffic.
The work on the flyover at the Kinsale Road (Magic) Roundabout has been continuing apace. The bridges are in place at what will be both the east and west exits to the N25. Most of work now looks like the filling in of earthworks in preparation for the new roads leading up and down from the bridges. The timescale is something I am not sure of but popular opinion says the project is ahead of schedule. The congestion is a little bit less now at the roundabout but it is somewhat smoke and mirrors as the bottleneck at rush hour is now further back towards the airport at the dangerous junction by Bull McCabes bar where there are new traffic lights. From the safety point of view the traffic lights are very welcome in my opinion.
Last Sunday the excitement did not cease at Cork Airport. Apart from the welcome return of the rugby fans there were two fab visitors, a DH Dove and a Portuguese TriStar on a hire in for Eirjet(?) to Faro. Also, it was like olden times between the airport and the terminal with the roads jammed up with traffic due to relations coming to collect loved ones off the rugby flights mixing with the busy weekend comings and goings.
Even last night the nostalgia continued as TNT had to hire in an Air Atlantique Electra in place of the usual BAe 146. Finally, all the signs are indeed there that Cork Airport is once again becoming more welcoming to corporate visitors - today so far and yesterday has seen the arrival of a lot of bizjet traffic.
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Originally Posted by lm06
there used to be a live ATC feed from the airport
on ATClive.com though i never heard it
any idea why that's not operational ?
on ATClive.com though i never heard it
any idea why that's not operational ?
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well its pricy because of electricity keeping the pc on 24/7. Its really just a scanner hooked up though but he uses it alot outside of his house aswell now so I cant see it coming back soon - Will keep you updated though