Emirates

[pholling]

Originally Posted by ATNotts

I thought that the EU negotiated right on behalf of all EU states. From what you are saying it appears the French have an opt out, or are air traffic rights for third countries, outside the EU agreed at national level?

If they are agreed nationally, then one of more dire warning about a no deal Brexit may be overblown.

Depends on the agreement. There are a number of existing agreements between non EU and EU states that pre-date the EU asserting sole negotiating authority. If there is no agreement between the EU as a whole and the country then the old agreements remain in force. Once the EU and that country sign a new agreement it takes precedence. This is what happened when the EU-US Openskies agreement came into force. The old agreements, e.g. the US-NL open skies and Bermuda II all lapsed. If the UK leaves the EU without a deal, or with a deal that doesn't include remaining in the EU negotiated agreements then they loose the rights in those agreements. It remains to be seen if the other countries would honour the previous agreements as these technically ceased to exist when the EU agreement was made.

Note, this is totally separate from the fact that, as it stands, the UK has no international authority to oversee type design and continued airworthiness, which could be far more problematic.

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by pholling

Depends on the agreement. There are a number of existing agreements between non EU and EU states that pre-date the EU asserting sole negotiating authority. If there is no agreement between the EU as a whole and the country then the old agreements remain in force. Once the EU and that country sign a new agreement it takes precedence. This is what happened when the EU-US Openskies agreement came into force. The old agreements, e.g. the US-NL open skies and Bermuda II all lapsed. If the UK leaves the EU without a deal, or with a deal that doesn't include remaining in the EU negotiated agreements then they loose the rights in those agreements. It remains to be seen if the other countries would honour the previous agreements as these technically ceased to exist when the EU agreement was made.

Note, this is totally separate from the fact that, as it stands, the UK has no international authority to oversee type design and continued airworthiness, which could be far more problematic.

Thanks for clarifying that. The apocalyptic scenario you describe in your final paragraph appears even to me, as a remainer, a very remote possibility. As it would affect not just the EU and the UK but potentially have worldwide consequences, other more powerful nations would in all probability bang the UK and EU's head's together and force some sort of agreement between the two parties.

[kcockayne]

You hope !

[pholling]

Originally Posted by ATNotts

Thanks for clarifying that. The apocalyptic scenario you describe in your final paragraph appears even to me, as a remainer, a very remote possibility. As it would affect not just the EU and the UK but potentially have worldwide consequences, other more powerful nations would in all probability bang the UK and EU's head's together and force some sort of agreement between the two parties.

Are you referring to the potential to not revert to previous agreements or the issue with the CAA not currently having the authority to issue type certificates and oversee continued airworthiness of airlines? If it is the former, then there is no issue for the EU as they are a continuing entity. If it is the later, the CAA recognise this and hence why they are scrambling to stand up a capability if the announced preferred idea of staying in EASA is not possible. Note, currently membership in EASA falls under the ECJ for dispute resolution and the like, so this is a sticking point.

[ATNotts]

Originally Posted by kcockayne

You hope !

Without turning this into (yet another) Brexit thread, inept as the government (in fact all our current crop of politicians) is, they are not, I believe, on the whole lemmings. Only the most extreme of extremists would want such a doomsday scenario to happen, and they aren't the majority of either wing of the argument. Same I believe goes for the EU Commission, and the member states.

Other issues could go pear shaped, I don't see this one going that way however red the red lines are, on either side.

[Seljuk22]

Since September RUH is served 4 times a day. Based on current schedule EK will phase out their remaining B773 by end of October. Starting then the passenger fleet contains only of A380, B77W and B77L.

Lately some more changes were announced (temporary reductions are not included):

01 October 2018
EDI (EK023/024) new daily with B77W

25 October 2018
DME (EK173/174) new third daily with B77W

26 October 2018
MUX (EK630/631) 4 weekly service cancelled; FZ will serve MUX

27 October 2018
CMB-SIN (EK348/349) daily service cancelled
MHD (EK967/968) 4 weekly service cancelled; FZ will serve MHD

28 October 2018
FCO (EK099/100) daily service cancelled; planned resumption on 31/03
ATH (EK103/104) daily service cancelled; planned resumption on 31/03
FLL (EK213/214) from 5 weekly to 4 weekly B77L
KIX (EK316/317) from daily B77W to daily A380
DPS (EK360/361) daily service cancelled
MAA (EK544/545) from daily B773 to daily B77W -> last B773 flight

30 October 2018
HAM (EK061/062) from daily B77W to daily A380

06 November 2018
PRG (EK137/138) daily service cancelled; FZ will serve PRG along with EK's remaining daily service

15 November 2018
INC-CGO (EK326/327) 3 weekly service cancelled

01 December 2018
AMS (EK145/146) new 4 weekly with B77W
JNB (EK761/762) from daily B77W to daily A380
LAD (EK793/794) from 5 weekly to daily B77W

01 December 2018 - 31 March 2019
ZAG (EK129/130) daily service with B77W cancelled; FZ will service ZAG daily with B7M8 in this period
ARN (EK155/156) new second daily with B77W

01 January 2019
AMS (EK145/146) from 4 weekly to 5 weekly B77W

14 January 2019
MCO (EK219/220) from 5 weekly to 4 weekly B77W

15 January 2019
SIN (EK352/353) from daily B77W to daily A380
BKK-SYD (EK418/419) from daily A380 to daily B77W

01 February 2019
BUD (EK111/112) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 3-class B77W
HND (EK312/313) from daily B77W to 5 weekly B77W + 2 weekly B77L
CPT (EK778/779) daily service cancelled

[Seljuk22]

Review of 2018
https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...etter-in-2018#

[Seljuk22]

Operational adjustments in the coming months

Porto will be a new destination joining in July
40 A330-900 and 30 A350-900 have been ordered, on the other side only 14 more A380 will be delivered to Emirates until 2021


31 March 2019
BKK-HKG (EK384/385) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 3-class B77W
PER (EK424/425) daily B77W service cancelled

16 April 2019
GLA (EK025/026) from daily B77W to daily A380 (until 31/05/19)
BKK-HKG (EK384/385) from daily 3-class B77W to daily 2-class A380

31 May 2019
BKK-SYD (EK418/419) daily B77W service cancelled
ATH (EK103/104) from daily B77W to daily A380 (until 30/09/19)

01 June 2019
DME (EK173/174) daily B77W service cancelled
CMN (EK753/754) new daily service with B77W
CKY-DSS (EK797/798) from 4 weekly to 5 weekly B77W
GRU-SCL (EK263/264) 5 weekly B77L service cancelled
GIG-EZE (EK247/248) from daily B77W to 4 weekly B77L
GIG-SCL (EK245/246) new 3 weekly flight with B77L
BKK-PNH (EK370/371) existing BKK flight extended to PNH daily B77W
RGN (EK388/389) from daily to 4 weekly B77W
BOS (EK237/238) from daily B77W to daily A380 (until 30/09/19)
GLA (EK027/028) from daily B77W to daily A380 (until 30/09/19)
AMM (EK903/904) from daily B77W to daily A380 (until 26/10/19)

02 June 2019
ACC (EK789/790) new 4 weekly flight with B77W
ABV (EK785/786) from 4 weekly to daily B77W

14 June 2019
DUR (EK759/760) new 4 weekly flight with B77W (until 04/08/19)

01 July 2019
STN (EK067/068) new 2nd daily flight with B77W

02 July 2019
NEW: OPO (EK197/198) new 4 weekly flight with B77W

28 October 2019
CAI (EK921/922) new 4 weekly flight with B77W

01 December 2019
BOS (EK237/238) from daily B77W to daily A380 (until 31/01/20)

[VickersVicount]

A lot of investment in a triple airbridge at GLA for an intermittent seasonal A380. With month on month decreases recently, wonder if A380 will promote enough existing pax to stick with it for the 'superjumbo' to come back after this summer.
Nice to see it at all I suppose.

[KelvinD]

What went wrong with Emirates LHR flights today?
EK1 arrived approx 4.5 hours late
EK31 then arrived approx 40 minutes early.
Finally, EK29 arrived approx 2 hours late.
All 3 arrived in a 15 minute window! I wouldn't like to have been the bloke on the ground tasked with finding a space to put them!

[DuneMentat]

Originally Posted by KelvinD

What went wrong with Emirates LHR flights today?

Unforecasted fog in Dubai in the early morning hours meant the place was a mess with some 20+ diversions.

[KelvinD]

Thanks for the info. It must have been bedlam at Heathrow trying to squeeze 3 A380s in all at the same time!

[FFHKG]

How many A380 capable gates are there in T3? Sufficient or did they go remote?

[Rutan16]

T3 Has six Code F three bridge contact stands

[Seljuk22]

Recent changes:
Porto was launched in July and in December Mexico-City (via Barcelona) will follow as a new destination.

01 July 2019
STN (EK067/068) new 2nd daily flight with B77W
MCT (EK862/863) from daily B77W to daily A380
MCT (EK864/865) from daily B77W to daily A380

02 July 2019
NEW: OPO (EK197/198) new 4 weekly flight with B77W

05 July 2019
EBB (EK731/732) new 3 weekly flight with B77W

28 October 2019
CAI (EK921/922) new 4 weekly flight with B77W

01 December 2019
BOS (EK237/238) from daily B77W to daily A380 (until 31/01/20)

09 December 2019
NEW: BCN-MEX (EK255/256) new daily flight with B77L

[atakacs]

Are they going to have a Barcelona base ? Interresting ...

[sunshine79]

No, they'd never ever have a base outside of DXB. The flight goes DXB-BCN-MEX

[strawberry Ribena]

Originally Posted by atakacs

Are they going to have a Barcelona base ? Interresting ...

It’s a 5th freedom flight. they have a few

dxb-mxp-jfk
dxb-ath-ewr
dxb-gig-eze

[atakacs]

Thanks for clarifying

[JSCL]

Emirates official suspends ALL ops from 25th March, except SkyCargo.