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The usual decreases for Ramadan although some are permanent such as Dublin - I thought the 380 was going to start or is this in preparation with both flights going three class with the next step the 380 on the lunchtime flight?
First has always done rather good for them, the two class switch was more of increased Y demand on the evening service rather than not filling a good level of F seats.
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Short term saving - yes
long term saving - no, they'd need more orders, probably from other airlines too.
Is nice to see even more of the glorious big birds coming soon though
long term saving - no, they'd need more orders, probably from other airlines too.
Is nice to see even more of the glorious big birds coming soon though
I wonder if they intend to operate them all, or if they'll do an SQ and use some to replace some of the older ones. Not that any of them are very old by commercial airliner standards....
Not quite. Firm orders for 20, options for 16. I’d be interested to know who blinked first on this one.
As to saving the programme, I’d say it keeps it on life support for the time being. I guess Airbus hope that in 10 years time the market may have changed.
As to saving the programme, I’d say it keeps it on life support for the time being. I guess Airbus hope that in 10 years time the market may have changed.
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I too hope that India and China become more realistic A380 markets in the next 10/20 years and keep it going. Although I have a feeling the A380 could end up the Concorde of the 21st century
I suspect many of these will be replacement aircraft, and I sincerely hope the used aircraft market for the A380 will be strong
I suspect many of these will be replacement aircraft, and I sincerely hope the used aircraft market for the A380 will be strong
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What it does do is give Airbus breathing space.May allow time for a next generation engine to be developed which might make it more economic and attractive to more airlines, especially in China.
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So, any new A380 routes to expect?
ARN with it's brand new A380 gate should be a candidate, right?
ARN with it's brand new A380 gate should be a candidate, right?
Emirates have said some will be used for fleet renewal, leaving a few extra for new routes/ increased frequency. I certainly wouldn't put ARN out of contention, another decent addition to the hub & spoke business model
The A380 still has support.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKBN1F80K5
There is a huge market for mass travel from China which suggests a future for the secondhand fleet.
ARIS (Reuters) - Airbus Chief Operating Officer Fabrice Bregier said on Friday that Emirates’ latest order for up to 36 A380 aircraft worth $16 billion at list price would allow the European planemaker to maintain a minimum production level of the superjumbo.
There is a huge market for mass travel from China which suggests a future for the secondhand fleet.
Just wondering: is Emirates flying the 380 to any place not specifically equipped with double decker gates?
After all I have boarded more than once a 380 in DBX from the tarmac (not a great experience)...
After all I have boarded more than once a 380 in DBX from the tarmac (not a great experience)...
Over on the BA thread, there is talk that Willy might be considering leasing pre-owned 380's for his British airline (and maybe Iberia).
A real sign of how the aviation world has changed if the once "World's Favourite Airline" is reduced to taking aircraft second-hand from an airline that was a relative minnow 20 years ago (although I am also aware that Singapore are offloading early-build 380's and that Malaysian are looking to do so also).
Not without precedent at IAG though, who have second-hand BA 320's at LGW that came from Wizz.
A real sign of how the aviation world has changed if the once "World's Favourite Airline" is reduced to taking aircraft second-hand from an airline that was a relative minnow 20 years ago (although I am also aware that Singapore are offloading early-build 380's and that Malaysian are looking to do so also).
Not without precedent at IAG though, who have second-hand BA 320's at LGW that came from Wizz.
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The A380 still has support.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKBN1F80K5
There is a huge market for mass travel from China which suggests a future for the secondhand fleet.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKBN1F80K5
There is a huge market for mass travel from China which suggests a future for the secondhand fleet.
Today and probably right into the mid term that mass travel market is internally within China powering the movement of labour from the fields into the cities however even this migration is already showing signs of slowing.
IMHO there is far to much believe in the Chinese powering mass leisure travel.
Their International growth is about power projection and ensuring world traders can buy much of their crap product.
I guess you have not been through BKK lately.
Thailand is flooded with Chinese tourists.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...whelm-upgrades
I was flying back to BKK from Macau a few weeks ago. The Air Asia flight was about 90% Chinese tourists.
Thailand is flooded with Chinese tourists.
Thailand, land of golden temples, white-sand beaches, smiling hosts. Or of overcrowded airports, epic traffic jams and littered seashores.
Facing a deluge of Chinese tourists that has strained its airports beyond capacity, the Southeast Asian nation is spending billions to upgrade its infrastructure, open up new islands and cities to travelers, and tone down its image of cheap shopping, hotels and sex that underpinned the industry for half a century. But the change will take years and even then may fail to keep up with soaring visitor numbers that have given the Land of Smiles a reputation for delays, overcrowding and government crackdowns.
Facing a deluge of Chinese tourists that has strained its airports beyond capacity, the Southeast Asian nation is spending billions to upgrade its infrastructure, open up new islands and cities to travelers, and tone down its image of cheap shopping, hotels and sex that underpinned the industry for half a century. But the change will take years and even then may fail to keep up with soaring visitor numbers that have given the Land of Smiles a reputation for delays, overcrowding and government crackdowns.
I was flying back to BKK from Macau a few weeks ago. The Air Asia flight was about 90% Chinese tourists.
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Again organised tours for party favoured middle classes and the party faithful including students these remain a relatively small proportion of the Chinese populus.
China is all smoke and mirrors never believe the half of it .
China is all smoke and mirrors never believe the half of it .