Emirates

[Una Due Tfc]

Or maybe it was because the extra tanks were deactivated on SOME frames and they didn't have enough to run both, go figure

[Seljuk22]

Could anyone provide a full list of EK's current A340 300 and 777 300 routes (and possibly the end date if applicable, i.e the A343 to KBL ends 01/12/2016)? I'm aiming to get on them this year before they're retired

SAW 7/7 B773
DAR 7/7 B773
EBB 7/7 B773
ABV 7/7 B773
MUX 4/7 B773
B773 can be found several destinations to India
BEY, AMM some flights with B773
NBO 7/7 B773 (until 1st May)
ADD 7/7 B773 (until 1st May)
CMB 6/7 B773 (until 1st May)
ALG 5/7 B773 (until 1st June)
TUN-MLA 5/7 B773 (from 1st June)
BUD 7/7 B773 (until 1st February)

DKR 4/7 A343
EBB 7/7 A343 (until 1st May)
LCA-MLA 2/7 A343 (until 1st June)
SKT 7/7 A343 (from 1st June until 1st September)
KRT 4/7 A343 (from 1st June)
KBL 7/7 A343 (until 1st December)
BEY 7/7 A343 (until 1st December)

[Seljuk22]

EK will launch a fourth daily flight to LGW from 1st October
Emirates Increases Capacity to London, Adds 10th Daily Service


Two more A380 (two class configuration) with delivery in the 4th quarter of 2017 ordered.

From now until the end of 2017, Emirates will retire 30 older aircraft from our fleet. At the same time, to meet our growth expectations, we will receive delivery of 24 new Boeing 777, and 33 new A380 aircraft including these two additional A380 aircraft just ordered.

Emirates orders two additional A380 aircraft

[AvGeek1]

I was thinking about what new additions Emirates could add to it's route network in Europe that would be viable to operate. Any ideas?

Here is a few I have thought of:

Naples, Italy
Valencia, Spain
Helsinki, Finland
Bucharest, Romania

[Andy_S]

Didn't you create a 'Route Speculation' thread precisely for this sort of speculative discussion? Why not use that.

[LandingConfig]

When will the Summer 2017 timetable be published?

[EK77WNCL]

With the new 7th daily Bangkok service announced, if they ever think they'll go for more, do you think they would consider a service to Don Mueang? Found it to be quite a pleasant experience in August 2014, plus it's closer to the city so might be appealing

[Metro man]

Don Mueang might need money spending to make it capable of handling the A380 but B777 would be possible. Suvarnabhumi is operating above design capacity at the moment and Air Asia got kicked over to DMK.

Operating from two different airports in the same city increases costs for an airline, EK operate from Heathrow and Gatwick because of severe limits on slot availability at LHR though there are enough LGW flights to make it worthwhile having the staff there and operating premium passenger lounges. The catchment area for passengers may be increased and flight timings conveniently spaced out between both airports to provide a wide choice of departure times.

I wouldn't be worth the additional costs to operate from another airport just for a single daily flight and I'm sure Emirates have enough money and "influence" to get the slots they need at Suvarnabhumi which has more convenient connections and transport links to the city.

[Seljuk22]

3rd daily DXB-CPT from 4th July

[Seljuk22]

Daily A380 to VIE from 1st July (instead of MXP); 7th daily flight to BKK from 1st July; 3rd daily flight to CPT from 4th July; 4th daily flight to LGW from 1st October
Routes currently operated by A332, A343 and B772 will be gradually replaced by B77W during winter timetable

01 June
LHR (EK031/032) from daily B77W to daily A380
MUC (EK053/054) from daily B77W to daily A380
BCN (EK187/188) from daily B77W to daily A380
GVA (EK083/084) new second daily with B77W
ALG (EK757/758) from 5 weekly B773 to 5 weekly B77W
TUN MLA (EK749) from 5 weekly A343 to 5 weekly B773
LCA MLA (EK109/110) from 2 weekly A343 to 2 weekly B77W
SKT (EK620/621) from daily A332 to daily B77W
KRT (EK733/734) from 4 weekly A332 to 4 weekly A343

01 July
IAH (EK211/212) from daily A380 to daily B77W
LAX (EK217/218) new second daily flight with A380
DUS (EK057/058) from daily B77W to daily A380
VIE (EK127/128) from daily B77W to daily A380
BKK (EK350/351) new seventh daily flight with B77W
BEY (EK953/954) from daily B77L to daily B77W
SKT (EK620/621) from daily B77W to daily A332

04 July
CPT (EK778/779) new third daily flight with B77W

01 August
PER (EK424/425) from daily B77W to daily A380
CMB (EK648/649) new fifth daily flight with B77W
BAH (EK835/836) from daily A332 to daily B77W
BAH (EK839/840) from daily A332 to daily B77W
BSR (EK945/946) from 3 weekly A332 to 3 weekly B77W

03 August
NEW: RGN HAN (EK388/389) new daily with B77W

01 September
DFW (EK221/222) from daily B77W to daily A380
SKT (EK620/621) from daily A343 to daily B77W
MED (EK809/810) from 3 weekly A332 to 3 weekly A343

01 October
LGW (EK023/024) new 4th daily flight with B77W
CCU (EK570/571) from daily B772 to daily B77W
BGW (EK941/942) from 4 weekly A332 to 4 weekly B77W/A332

30 October
RGN HAN (EK388/389) from daily 3 class B77W to daily 2 class B77W
CCU (EK572/573) from daily B772 to daily B77W
MED (EK809/810) from 3 weekly A343 to 3 weekly B77W
BAH (EK839/840) from daily EQV to daily B77L
BGW (EK943/944) from 3 weekly EQV to 3 weekly B77W
MHD (EK965/966) from 2 weekly A332 to 2 weekly B77W
MHD (EK967/968) from 3 weekly A332 to 3 weekly B77W

01 December
KBL (EK640/641) from daily A343 to daily B77W
BEY (EK955/956) from daily A343 to daily B77W

01 January
AMD (EK538/539) from daily B772 to daily B77W

01 February
BUD (EK11/112) from daily B773 to daily B77W
TRV (EK522/523) from 5 weekly A332 + 2 weekly B77W to 6 weekly B77W
AMD (EK540/541) from 3 weekly EQV to 3 weekly B77W
BAH (EK837/838) from daily EQV to daily B77W
BSR (EK947/948) from 4 weekly A332 + 3 weekly B77W to daily B77W

01 March
TRV (EK520/521) from 5 weekly A332 to 4 weekly B77W
MCT (EK864/865) from daily A332 to daily B77W
BGW (EK941/942) from 4 weekly B77W/A332 to 4 weekly B77W

[Seljuk22]

Last scheduled A340-300 flights on 30th November to/from Kabul & Beirut.
DXB-PEW right now is the only remaining route operated by a A332 beyond 1st December.
Last scheduled B777-200ER service to/from Ahmadebad on 31st December.

LOS will be reduced from double daily to daily from 1st July.
From 30th October DXB-AKL will be A380 and a 2nd daily nonstop flight DXB-MEL is scheduled. DXB-DME will see the A380 again from 1st December.

01 July
IAH (EK211/212) from daily A380 to daily B77W
LAX (EK217/218) new second daily flight with A380
DUS (EK057/058) from daily B77W to daily A380
VIE (EK127/128) from daily B77W to daily A380
BKK (EK350/351) new seventh daily flight with B77W
BEY (EK953/954) from daily EQV to daily B77W
BEY (EK955/955) from daily EQV to daily A343
SKT (EK620/621) from daily B77W to daily A343
LOS (EK781/782) second daily flight suspended

04 July
CPT (EK778/779) new third daily flight with B77W

01 August
PER (EK424/425) from daily B77W to daily A380
CMB (EK648/649) new fifth daily flight with B77W
BAH (EK835/836) from daily A332 to daily B77W
BSR (EK945/946) from 3 weekly A332 to 3 weekly B77W

03 August
NEW: RGN HAN (EK388/389) new daily with B77W

01 September
DFW (EK221/222) from daily B77W to daily A380
DKR (EK797/798) from 4 weekly A343 to 4 weekly B77W
MED (EK809/810) from 3 weekly A332 to 3 weekly A343

01 October
LGW (EK023/024) new 4th daily flight with B77W
CCU (EK570/571) from daily B772 to daily B77W
BGW (EK941/942) from 4 weekly A332 to 4 weekly B77W/A332

30 October
AKL (EK448/449) from daily B77L to daily A380
MEL (EK408/409) from daily one stop via to KUL to daily nonstop with B77W
RGN HAN (EK388/389) from daily 3 class B77W to daily 2 class B77W
TRV (EK522/523) from 5 weekly A332 + 2 weekly B77W to 6 weekly B77W
CCU (EK572/573) from 6 weekly B772 to 6 weekly B77W
AMD (EK538/539) from daily A332 to daily B772
AMD (EK540/541) from 3 weekly EQV to 2 weekly EQV
SKT (EK620/621) from daily A343 to daily B77W
KRT (EK733/734) from 4 weekly A343 to 4 weekly B77W
MED (EK809/810) from 3 weekly A343 to 3 weekly B77W
BGW (EK943/944) from 3 weekly EQV to 3 weekly B77W
MHD (EK965/966) from 2 weekly A332 to 2 weekly B77W
MHD (EK967/968) from 3 weekly A332 to 3 weekly B77W
BAH (EK839/840) from daily EQV to daily B77L

01 December
DME (EK131/132) from daily B77W to daily A380
BSR (EK947/948) from 4 weekly A332 + 3 weekly B77W to daily B77W
KBL (EK640/641) from daily A343 to daily B77W
BEY (EK955/956) from daily A343 to daily B77W
MCT (EK864/865) from daily A332 to daily B77W
BGW (EK941/942) from 4 weekly B77W/A332 to 4 weekly B77W
TRV (EK520/521) from 5 weekly A332 to 4 weekly B77W
AMD (EK540/541) from 2 weekly EQV to 2 weekly B77W

01 January
BAH (EK837/838) from daily EQV to daily B77W
AMD (EK538/539) from daily B772 to daily B77L

01 February
BUD (EK11/112) from daily B773 to daily B77W

Current fleet

79 x A380
117 x B77W
12 x B773
3 x B772ER
10 x B77L
4 x A343
8 x A332
13 x B77F

[Seljuk22]

permanent flight cancellations:
1st August: SAW and BKK down from 7 daily to 6 daily
1st September LIS from twice daily to daily
1st October FCO from trice daily to double daily

seasonal cancellations:
CGK from trice daily to double daily (October/November)
LAD from daily to 5 weekly (August-November)
OSL from daily to 5 weekly (September-November)
LED from daily to 5 weekly (August-December)

After reductions to "oil destinations" IAH and LOS now SAW due to lower demand (recent terror attacks) in Istanbul. BKK (5 of 6 daily with A380) and FCO (all twice daily with A380) will get an additional A380 rotation and also flydubai will launch BKK with twice daily flights in late November.

01 August
PER (EK424/425) from daily B77W to daily A380
KBL (EK640/641) from daily A343 to daily B77W
CMB (EK648/649) new fifth daily with B77W
BAH (EK835/836) from daily EQV to daily B77W
BSR (EK945/946) from 3 weekly A332 to 3 weekly B77W
BEY (EK955/956) from daily A343 to daily B77W
SAW (EK119/120) service suspended
BKK (EK350/351) seventh daily service suspended

03 August
NEW: RGN HAN (EK388/389) daily with B77W

01 September
DFW (EK221/222) from daily B77W to daily A380
FCO (EK095/096) from daily B77W to daily A380
MCO (EK219/220) from daily B77L to daily B77W
GIG EZE (EK247/248) from daily B77W to daily B77L
KRT (EK733/734) from 4 weekly A343 to 4 weekly B77W
DKR (EK797/798) from 4 weekly A343 to 4 weekly B77W
LIS (EK193/194) second daily service suspended

01 October
DME (EK131/132) from daily B77W to daily A380
LGW (EK023/024) new 4th daily with B77W
RGN HAN (EK388/389) from daily 3-class B77W to daily 2-class B77W
CCU (EK570/571) from daily B772 to daily B77W
BGW (EK941/942) from 4 weekly A332 to 4 weekly B77W/A332
FCO (EK099/100) third daily service suspended

30 October
AKL (EK448/449) from daily B77L to daily A380
MEL (EK408/409) from daily one stop via to KUL to daily nonstop with B77W
TRV (EK522/523) from 5 weekly A332 + 2 weekly B77W to 6 weekly B77W
AMD (EK538/539) from daily A332 to daily B772
AMD (EK540/541) from 3 weekly EQV to 2 weekly EQV
CCU (EK572/573) from 6 weekly B772 to 6 weekly B77W
SKT (EK620/621) from daily A343 to daily B77W
MED (EK809/810) from 3 weekly A343 to 3 weekly B77W
BAH (EK839/840) from daily EQV to daily B77L
BGW (EK943/944) from 3 weekly EQV to 3 weekly B77W
MHD (EK965/966) from 2 weekly A332 to 2 weekly B77W
MHD (EK967/968) from 3 weekly A332 to 3 weekly B77W

01 December
TRV (EK520/521) from 5 weekly A332 to 4 weekly B77W
AMD (EK540/541) from 2 weekly EQV to 2 weekly B77W
MCT (EK864/865) from daily A332 to daily B77W
BGW (EK941/942) from 4 weekly B77W/A332 to 4 weekly B77W
BSR (EK947/948) from 4 weekly A332 + 3 weekly B77W to daily B77W

01 January
BKK (EK370/371) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
DUB (EK163/164) from daily 3-class B77W to daily 2-class B77W
AMD (EK538/539) from daily B772 to daily B77L
BAH (EK837/838) from daily EQV to daily B77W

01 February
BUD (EK111/112) from daily B773 to daily 2-class B77W

[EK77WNCL]

What is the reasoning behind BKK, LIS and FCO? Also surprising to see seasonal reduction to OSL, do you know why? Just low demand or A/C shortage?

[Logohu]

Just low demand or A/C shortage?

According to the ME thread the rumour is they just had the worst first quarter result in their history. Signs of a slowing world economy, competition from their ME neighbours so perhaps over capacity starting to become an issue ? EK apparently taking the opportunity to bring forward the retirement dates of some of their older A330s and A340s.

Delta has also just announced capacity cuts for the winter.

With Turkey now unravelling and Brexit uncertainty in an already slowing economy, 2017 could be an interesting year.

[Seljuk22]

But as mentioned BKK will be 5 daily A380 (some with 2-class) + daily B77W (DXB-BKK-SYD-CHC should be A380 by next year) and flydubai (other company but with connection to EK) will start double daily flights to BKK on 29th November. Due to this total capacity to BKK will be increased.

FCO will be double daily A380 instead of twice daily B77W and daily A380. If they put a 519 seater A380 to FCO it will be 1.038 seats a day compared to 1.209 (2x360 + 1x489) which is just a bit less capacity than today.
QR after buying a 49% stake of Meridiana will have more influence and opportunities in Italy going forward and they put their Dreamliners to FCO and MXP which passenger might prefer compared to a B77W.

Situation in Turkey and Istanbul (several terror attacks in the past months) is clear and the cancellation of SAW comprehensible. Besides a A332 (which will leave the fleet soon) would fit much better on that route than a larger B777.

2nd daily to LIS was introduced this January but as it seems the demand is not there (right now) to justify a 2nd daily flight.

Maybe in the past EK doesn't matter that much if a route could not fullfill their expectations and they had the time to wait to make this route profitable. Today they reduce in advance once they see it doesn't work (like any other airline on this planet).

[Seljuk22]

Emirates did some further (last minute) changes. As a consequence more temporary service cancellations took place to move forward the phase out of the last remaining A343 to August. Most of B772 and A332 to be gone by year end and starting 2017 EK will start to phase out the last remaining B773 by switching the routes to B77W or A380.

Since 1st July KHI was reduced from 7 to 5 daily as EK610/611 and EK618/619 were suspended.
HKT will be temporary reduced to 11 weekly as 3 weekly EK394/395 will be cancelled from 1st August but on 30th October EK396/397 will be increased from 4 weekly to daily so HKT will be double daily once agian.
DFW will remain with B77W and won't change back to A380 from 1st September.
KUL gets a second daily A380 from 1st September & MXP from 1st October. A380 will return to JNB from 1st February.

01 August 2016
PER (EK424/425) from daily B77W to daily A380
CMB (EK648/649) new fifth daily with B77W
BAH (EK835/836) from daily EQV to daily B77W
SKT (EK620/621) from daily A343 to daily B77W
KBL (EK640/641) from daily A343 to daily B77W
BEY (EK955/956) from daily A343 to daily B77W
DKR (EK797/798) from 4 weekly A343 to 4 weekly B77W
BSR (EK945/946) from 3 weekly A332 to 3 weekly B77W
SAW (EK119/120) service suspended
BKK (EK350/351) seventh daily service suspended
HKT (EK394/395) three weekly services supended

03 August 2016:
RGN HAN (EK388/389) new daily with B77W

01 September 2016
FCO (EK095/096) from daily B77W to daily A380
KUL (EK346/347) from daily B77W to daily A380
MCO (EK219/220) from daily B77L to daily B77W
GIG EZE (EK247/248) from daily B77W to daily B77L
KRT (EK733/734) from 4 weekly A343 to 4 weekly B77W
LIS (EK193/194) second daily service suspended

01 October 2016
DME (EK131/132) from daily B77W to daily A380
MXP (EK091/092) from daily B77W to daily A380
LGW (EK023/024) new 4th daily with B77W
RGN HAN (EK388/389) from daily 3 class B77W to daily 2 class B77W
CCU (EK570/571) from daily B772 to daily B77W
BGW (EK941/942) from 4 weekly A332 to 4 weekly B77W/A332
FCO (EK099/100) third daily service suspended

30 October 2016
AKL (EK448/449) from daily B77L to daily A380
KUL (EK346/347) from daily A380 to daily B77W
MEL (EK408/409) from daily one stop via to KUL to daily nonstop with B77W
HKT (EK396/397) from 4 weekly B77W to daily B77W
TRV (EK522/523) from 5 weekly A332 + 2 weekly B77W to 6 weekly B77W
CCU (EK572/573) from 6 weekly B772 to 6 weekly B77W
MED (EK809/810) from 3 weekly A343 to 3 weekly B77W
BGW (EK943/944) from 3 weekly EQV to 3 weekly B77W
MHD (EK965/966) from 2 weekly A332 to 2 weekly B77W
MHD (EK967/968) from 3 weekly A332 to 3 weekly B77W
AMD (EK540/541) from 3 weekly EQV to 2 weekly EQV
AMD (EK538/539) from daily A332 to daily B772
BAH (EK839/840) from daily EQV to daily B77L

01 December 2016
KUL (EK346/347) from daily B77W to daily A380
MCT (EK864/865) from daily A332 to daily B77W
BSR (EK947/948) from 4 weekly A332 + 3 weekly B77W to daily B77W
TRV (EK520/521) from 5 weekly A332 to 4 weekly B77W
BGW (EK941/942) from 4 weekly B77W/A332 to 4 weekly B77W
AMD (EK540/541) from 2 weekly EQV to 2 weekly B77W

01 January 2017
BKK (EK370/371) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
DUB (EK163/164) from daily 3-class B77W to daily 2-class B77W
EBB (EK729/730) from daily B773 to daily B77W
BAH (EK837/838) from daily EQV to daily B77W
AMD (EK538/539) from daily B772 to daily B77L

01 February 2017
KUL (EK346/347) from daily A380 to daily 2-class A380
JNB (EK761/762) from daily B77W to daily A380
BUD (EK111/112) from daily B773 to daily 2-class B77W

Current fleet

81 A380
120 B77W
12 B773
3 B772ER
10 B77L
4 A343
5 A332

13 B77F

[ronnoc1k8]

A6-EMW (B777-300) has now been written off after an incident in Dubai.

[skyhawk1]

Originally Posted by ronnoc1k8

A6-EMW (B777-300) has now been written off after an incident in Dubai.

Thoughts for family of fire fighter who lost his life.

[chaps1954]

So sad when these guys put their life on the line to save others

Ian

[Seljuk22]

Flights to Conakry will belaunched on 30th October linked with Dakar.
DOH will be 9 daily (busiest EK route)
CAN will get the A380 from October and MAN will be all A380 from January
7th daily flight to BKK restored from 1st December
cancelletions to CMB due to runway work from 6th January to 6th April

01 September 2016
FCO (EK095/096) from daily B77W to daily A380
KUL (EK346/347) from daily B77W to daily A380
MCO (EK219/220) from daily B77L to daily B77W
GIG EZE (EK247/248) from daily B77W to daily B77L
PEW (EK636/637) from 5 weekly A332 to 5 weekly B77W
KRT (EK733/734) from 4 weekly A343 to 4 weekly B77W
LIS (EK193/194) second daily service suspended

01 October 2016
DME (EK131/132) from daily B77W to daily A380
MXP (EK091/092) from daily B77W to daily A380
CAN (EK362/363) from 2-class 77W daily to 3-class daily A380
LGW (EK023/024) new 4th daily with B77W
RGN HAN (EK388/389) from daily 3 class B77W to daily 2 class B77W
EBB (EK729/730) from daily B773 to daily B77W
CCU (EK570/571) from daily B772 to daily B77W
FCO (EK099/100) third daily service suspended

30 October 2016
AKL (EK448/449) from daily B77L to daily A380
KUL (EK346/347) from daily A380 to daily B77W
MEL (EK408/409) from daily one stop via to KUL to daily nonstop with B77W
HKT (EK396/397) from 4 weekly B77W to daily B77W
BOM (EK506/507) from daily B773 to daily B77W
MAA (EK542/543) from daily B773 to daily B77W
BLR (EK568/569) from daily B773 to daily B77W
CCU (EK572/573) from 6 weekly B772 to 6 weekly B77W
TRV (EK522/523) from 5 weekly A332 + 2 weekly B77W to 6 weekly B77W
TRV (EK520/521) from 5 weekly A332 to 4 weekly B77W
AMD (EK538/539) from daily A332 to daily B77L
BSR (EK947/948) from 4 weekly A332 + 3 weekly B77W to daily B77W
DOH (EK877/878) new eighth daily EQV
DOH (EK879/880) new ninth daily EQV
CKY DKR (EK795/797) resumption of 4 weekly CKY in triangular route with DKR
BGW (EK941/942) from 4 weekly EQV to 4 weekly B77W
BGW (EK943/944) from 3 weekly EQV to 3 weekly B77W
MHD (EK965/966) from 2 weekly A332 to 2 weekly B77W
MHD (EK967/968) from 3 weekly A332 to 3 weekly B77W

29th/30th October
EK863 Muscat – Dubai last A343 flight
EK523 Thiruvananthapuram – Dubai last A332 flight
EK539 Ahmedabad – Dubai last B772ER flight

01 December 2016
KUL (EK346/347) from daily B77W to daily A380
BKK (EK350/351) new seventh daily with 2-class B77W

01 January 2017
MAN (EK021/022) from daily B77W to daily A380
BHX (EK037/038) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
BHX (EK039/040) from daily 2-class A380 to daily 2-class B77W
BKK (EK370/371) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 2-class A380
DUB (EK163/164) from daily 3-class B77W to daily 2-class B77W
BAH (EK837/838) from daily EQV to daily B77W

06 January 2017
CMB SIN (EK348/349) route restricted to DXB CMB until 6th April
CMB (EK654/655) flight suspended until 6th April

01 February 2017
KUL (EK346/347) from daily A380 to daily 2-class A380
JNB (EK761/762) from daily B77W to daily A380
BUD (EK111/112) from daily B773 to daily 2-class B77W