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Old 16th Jan 2008, 08:36
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New LSI BGO service

From the Shetland News today
http://www.shetland-news.co.uk/news_...connection.htm

16 January, 2008

SCOTTISH airline Loganair is filling the gap left by Faroese shipping company Smyril Line when it severed Shetland's link with its Norwegian neighbours last year.

The airline's chairman Scott Grier yesterday (Tuesday) announced that a new twice weekly summer air service between Sumburgh and Bergen would be introduced as of 7 June.

Mr Grier and the company's chief executive Peter Tierney announced the move at a meeting of Shetland Islands Council’s external transport forum, in Lerwick.

The new service, similar to one operated for a number of years by the Norwegian airline Widerøe, will run until 30 August.

Mr Grier said: "We have all inclusive one way fares for £59 going up to a fully flexible fair of £145.

"You can make a return flight for as little as £118 or up to £290. We believe that will be attractive and we certainly will be promoting it very, very hard."
The news was welcomed yesterday by the chairman of Shetland's transport partnership ZetTrans, Allan Wishart, who said it was vital to maintain the isles historic links with Norway.

"This certainly helps to replace the links that have been lost from previous operators like Widerøe, and also Smyril Line,” Mr Wishart said.

"It can only do good for tourism and Loganair have emphasised that they are going to market it well. I think it is important to get more visitors from Scandinavia to keep that link going.

"Loganair probably is looking at the first year as an investment to get the service introduced and established. Hopefully it will build up and continue."
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It is good news but I hope that the marketing on the Norwegian side is better than we have had in the past. I can recall BA's operation nearly 20 years ago which ran KOI LSI BGO on Saturdays with the budgie and more recently Loganair's LSI BGO. In the latter case we met several norwegians who had tried to book only to be told by travel agents in Norway that the service didn't exist, fortunately they persisted and used the route. Presumably Wideroe were better at their home market.I am sure there is a market but the important thing to remember is that Hordaland has over 250,000 potential customers whilst Shetland, or Orkney, have less than a tenth of that number.
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And will this new route receive any form of subsidy?
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....filled with norweigans hunting fro cheap booze. Time to invest in discounted booze warehouses around Lerwick.

There are rumours on the Island that the strip here may come back into use......
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When's the last time Unst was in use...Brymon Dash 7's?
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I will be honest here and say that I couldn't tell you what sort of aircraft was used, but I did fly from Unst as my father was based at Saxa. But that was waayyyyyyyy back in the mid 70's.

The kids like using it to race their souped up Escorts up and down the runway in the thrash during midsummer.
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Will servisair still handle them from GLA with this new franchise deal?
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Yep they are.
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With the BA franchise ending, LC were looking forward to going it alone.

Then they realised they were going to have to get their own check in staff, deskshandling etc etc etc everywhere they go, as BA's plainly no longer usable.

By doing this tie-up with FlyBe they avoid all this extra hassle and expense.

At least, that's what I heard.

Great to see Logie continuing. Long may they!
 
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As said above, it's not a 'real' franchise as franchises go in business. It will come out in the wash as Loganair is completely absorbed by flyBE and then when everything settles down and flyBE go on the stockmarket, BA will buy them out right and finally have the low cost operator that they have been wanting for so long. However the flyBE staff will get nothing of the BA conditions of employ and flyBE will still trade under it's own brand, except for the fact that pax will obviously benefit from the oneworld legacy. Staff will not.
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What a load of speculative nonsense. You are honestly telling us BA will be genuinely interested in taking back FlyBE and Loganair as a fully absorbed regional ? ( given that they are dumping franchises quicker than a 777 with no engines)
Hands up whos believes it.....
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I think its a real shame that Logan didn't go it alone.

My last small outfit, (small TP operator with less than 10 aircraft) managed to organise a ticketing system, a small call centre, an online booking facilty and ground handling contracts with check in staff even wearing the uniform etc.

I'm sure Logan could have done this also and then not have to give a large chunk of their profits away to Flybe now instead of BA.

Loganair could have gone for their own branding, which would save the confusion for the pax if the fare structure and service levels are to be maintained whilst flying on what appears to be a loco operators a/c??
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Old 21st Jan 2008, 20:58
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When the pendulum swings back again BA buying flybe get their entire regional operation back as a profit making subsidiary. It's tempting
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Or maybe once Loganair have had enough of damaging their brand with FlyMaybe on the side they'l sell out to a proper regional airline that understands their local market and wants to operate 30 seat aircraft. Logie and BE are worlds apart in philosophy - this is simply a marketing deal to capitalise on BEs million £ national advertising which BA used to do for them.
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Reported today Loganair has acquired the ex-City Star sister companies at ABZ, Caledonian Airborne Engineering & City Star Handling. Were recent rumours of such a deal, denied by the directors of X9.

LOG will operate the acquisition under the CAE banner.
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Picture of Loganair Saab 340 G-LGNK at GLasgow in Flybe colors:

http://www.skyliner-aviation.de/view...675c893f120ac7

Btw, what is the aircraft visible behind the Saab - apparently an ATR in a color scheme resembling the long gone Eurowings livery?


Cannot remember - are the Twin Otters and Islanders part of the franchise deal? Or just the Twotters and not the Islanders as currently under the BA franchise?
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Will be flying LOG six times in Sept, on SF3 and BNI. Can't wait.

I'd love to fly GLA-BRR-GLA, but the fares are very expensive.

The SF3 in BE livery looks pretty cool.
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atr

Yes The Atr Is Ex Eurowings And Is Now Flown As Freighter On Behalf Of Fedex By Eurocontractors ?
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NK was in inv today did BA8910/8911 lsi koi inv koi lsi think it then went to abz
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Well word is BA management are furious with LC for using a BE liveried aircraft on one it's routes. BA said they could do the basic paint work with a British Airways sticker logo on it until the franchise end, but not titles until mid October at the earliest. Under the franchise agreement BA implement a fine like system for each time the contract is breeched and ultimatly they could start legal action for breech of contract.

After all GB's aircraft where painted white but no Easyjet titles could be added until the end of the BA franchise.

G-LGNK will operate services ex DND when they start soon.
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