JET2

[initial]

Monarch only operate one daily flight from Barcelona-Manchester. However adverts for it are plastered all over the city, so it must pay off for them. Whilst Jet2 only operate 4 flights a week from Krakow i would of thought advertising in Krakow must be a lot cheaper than Barcelona or the UK.

[crewboi83]

Originally Posted by Northern Hero

Pretty poor taste in my opinion Jet 2, your adverts in the papers and on your website obviously show that no thought has gone towards the staff who's jobs have gone or to those who's jobs are at risk at MME
Why take pleasure in other peoples misfortune ?
I'm another passenger you have just lost.

Do you think no other airline would do that if Jet2 pulled a base like BMIbaby have?
Jet2 are not taking advantage of peoples misfortune at all, they are simply expanding their business, and in my eyes helping out people who have now had their travel plans screwed up and dont know where to go.
And all those people that have lost their jobs, im sure they would be applying to Jet2 if they opened up MME as a base next.

[Jet2Leeds]

Have J2 Lost Out On Toronto ???

FLYGLOBESPAN TO FLY TO TORONTO FROM £109 INCLUDING TAXES

Robin Hood Airport is to have its first scheduled transatlantic route next year when rapidly-expanding airline flyglobespan launches a service to Toronto.
The web-based airline is to fly to the hugely popular Canadian city from May 2007 with prices starting from only £109 one way including taxes.
This service will be the first route on offer from flyglobespan from Robin Hood Airport as the airline continues to expand its UK footprint.
The new service from Robin Hood Airport is part of a comprehensive flyglobespan programme to Toronto’s Hamilton International, an Airport which is growing in popularity because of its convenient location between Niagara Falls and downtown Toronto, and the ease with which passengers can progress through it.
As with the majority of their long-haul programme, flyglobespan will offer will three fare bands on their Canadian flights – Economy, Economy Premier Service Upgrade and Business Class. With Economy Premier Service Upgrade prices starting at only £149 including taxes and Business at only £209 including taxes, the company expect a high demand on these upgraded seats.
Flyglobespan’s parent company, the Globespan Group has over 30 years experience working in the Canadian travel market, giving the web-based airline the ideal background to launch this 2007 programme.
C/O ROBIN HOOD AIRPORT NEWS LETTER

[chris1976]

Interesting that Toronto Hamilton airport is being served from Doncaster instead of Pearson International Airport. That decision based on fees and slots at YYZ I imagine. This still leaves things open for LBA-YYZ, which would surely be a more attractive option to Jet2 - better onward connections within Canada and the US for a start. It would also fit in with Jet2's unofficial policy of tending to service the major, as opposed to the peripheral airports, in major cities.

Toronto would be a great first entry for Jet2 into North America. Could one of Jet2's fully laden 757's get off the ground at LBA and make it to YYZ non-stop. I presume the answer will be yes....but might aswell ask the experts??

A daily 757 from LBA could be sustained. Look at the daily capacity from MAN - no doubt "west yorkshire" fills at least one of those aircraft a day.

[redmech]

Toronto would be a great first entry for Jet2 into North America.

757 can get there, only problem would be the cost, as the aircraft would have to be ETOPS rated. That means you need more engineers than are all ready available. e.g. any work is needed to be done on both donks, a different engineer would have to do the work on each donk. One engineer can't do the same job on each donk.

That is only one of many exsample that comes to mind.

I'm not saying it is not viable but the tag of low cost may not be a true reflectionin that situation. But I would personaly like to see it happen, maybe in a few more years.

[wawkrk]

Dubai

Would not somewhere like Dubai for example be easier for Jet2 to get into the longer haul market.
Probably only 7hrs from LBA, so easy for the 757`s.
Dubai is an up and coming destination and stopover point with lots of onward flights to India,Pakistan and the whole of Asia. A very desirable destination in itself.Probably could sustain a daily flight and give Manch a bashing.
Be good to get in early before Emirates start thinking about airports like DSA.
For sure, more point to point destinations from regional airports will become common.Also, look at what Jet2 has done to LBA charter flights.
Thomsons had 1 or 2 flights per week to Malaga and now Jet2 are going up to 2 x 757`s per day.
Is it not possible that the same will happen to the more far flung destinations and more business could be taken from Manchester?
I reckon amongst the low cost airlines, Jet2 have a top draw product.
Could they even stick a few business class seats in for longer flights?
Interesting times ahead.

[Flightrider]

Big announcement on Jet2 about new routes from MAN from next year - Barcelona, Paris, Warsaw, Toulouse, Berlin and Venice. It looks like they are increasing existing aircraft utilisation and I would guess replacing the third daily MAN-LGW flight with a Paris rotation given its timings.

There is a most odd press announcement stating "Jet2 spanks BA boss" on their website, including a rather strange picture of Philip Meeson and Willy Walsh. The sight is enough to induce nightmares. If Meeson is into that sort of thing, I'd have thought that publicising the fact on your airline's website is pushing one's ego to extremes. I would also have thought that they might have instilled some basic grammar into the person who wrote the press release. It's all very bizarre indeed, not to mention the fact that BA only flies two of the six routes on which Jet2 is claiming that they are going to spank them out of town.....

[bartelby]

FRIGHTENING
only word I can sum it up with...
Bartebly

[crewboi83]

Thank god some new services!!
MAN to Berlin, Paris, Barcelona, Tolouse, Venice and Warsaw

[chris1976]

Let's hope it's the turn of LBA next......Warsaw, Toulouse, Berlin, and double daily to Paris would be great. Any more additional aircraft for LBA on the horizon - the additional apron space soon to come online won't take long to fill up.

It would be nice to see Jet2 going double daily on some routes like Paris, Prague, and Germany which will help attract greater numbers of business pax.

[RobT100]

Lets see Jet2 grab more capacity as TOM seem to be turning their back on LBA. It is a very good point about Jet2 doing 2x daily to Malaga while TOM have nothing for next summer. This must be putting a huge dent in MAN bookings and TOM business as a whole

Perhaps we could see a whole host of new destinations as pax are now beleiving in themselves and booking DIY holidays instead of being ripped off by the tour operators.

Im sure PM's got something up his sleeve.

[GOLF-INDIA BRAVO]

I very much doubt it is denting Manchester as TOM are going for a large increase out of Manchester with 11 new scheduled services next year


G-I-B

[Going loco]

I thought the TOM "increases" at MAN are just a smoke and mirrors exercise where they start selling seat-only on charter services.

It's also innevitable the expansion from Jet2 at LBA and BLK will have some impact on MAN because before people from these areas used MAN when there wasn't choice from their own local airport. I had been told that overall passenger numbers to places Malaga, Alicante from MAN are no different now to the late 90s which bucks the trend of huge growth at a national level.

Let's hope Jet2 get into Larnaca, Paphos, Las Palmas with the 757s soon from LBA because - other than Florida, that is where the biggest charter markets at MAN are to attack.

loco

[airhumberside]

Originally Posted by Going loco

I thought the TOM "increases" at MAN are just a smoke and mirrors exercise where they start selling seat-only on charter services.

Ceratianly on at least some of the routes going scheduled, frequencies have been inceased

[Going loco]

but again, aren't the increased flights on 737s whereas the charter flying was on 757/767s.

[Shed-on-a-Pole]

Going loco -

The Thomsonfly expansion at MAN is supported by the basing of two additional B737's at the airport, over and above the existing fleet. It is a genuine expansion, not a "smoke and mirrors" exercise. Yes, certain charter capacity is being re-designated as scheduled also, but there is reason in this: scheduled flights save money on bonding requirements.

[nick b]

Any more Jet2 routes ex BLK in the pipeline for next Summer?

Regards

[682ft AMSL]

Was it coincidence today that both Jet2 737s were unable to get into Leeds on CAT3 or has there been some change to SOPs with regard 32 at LBA? The airport kit was working as Air Southwest Dash-8 (CAT2) and Ryanair -800 (CAT3) got in. I've always thought a key strength of Jet2 was their on-time performance and, over the harsher winter months, utilising the CAT3 kit at Leeds has often been integral to that. Weather this morning was RVR250m, sky obscured, 6kts tailwind down the runway and a damp runway surface. Not pretty, but not unusal and thus far in Jet2's 3 and a bit years, not proved to be a problem.

682

[Scottie Dog]

Jet2 Cat3

Don't forget that not only does the runway have to be Cat3, but both pilots also have to be CAT3 qualified. I only know the problems with Manchester when we go into CAT3 conditions, but the inbound delays that arise as a result often force aircraft to divert due to fuel shortages. Better to make a 'dash and splash' rather and then come back for another attempt.

Scottie Dog

[rudolf]

You need 4 things for Cat III ops:

The airfield to be Cat III - LBA 32 is OK.
The crew to be qualified - All Jet2 crews are LVO trained.
The aircraft to be Cat III -5 Not sure this morning.
The weather to be 50ft cloudbase and 200m RVR.

Only an assumption, but if other aircraft were able to get in then 1,2 and 4 were probably satisfied. Could be that the aircraft had been downgraded.

Rudolf