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You are correct, there is no physical way the whole programme can operate on the same a/c without delaying the LTN-AGP sector. The longest the same a/c overnights in AGP is 2 nights.
You are correct, there is no physical way the whole programme can operate on the same a/c without delaying the LTN-AGP sector. The longest the same a/c overnights in AGP is 2 nights.
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As i far as i can see it will 1 aircraft based in Malaga operating 4 sectors a day daily to Blackpool and then either Aberdeen or Newquay.
The extra Luton flight will probably picked up by another aircraft. I would assume.
The extra Luton flight will probably picked up by another aircraft. I would assume.
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Offically from the big "M" in Luton there will be a A320 based in Malaga, to operate these routes crews in hotels at first, but watch this space...... and for other bases and expansion plans it WILL happen !!!!
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Quote from the managing director of Monarch Scheduled:-
"From November of this year, we shall base an A320 in Malaga, and serve three new UK airports, Aberdeen, Blackpool and Newquay"
Seems to be a AGP based a/c to me.
"From November of this year, we shall base an A320 in Malaga, and serve three new UK airports, Aberdeen, Blackpool and Newquay"
Seems to be a AGP based a/c to me.
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The way l have always looked at it is, if the aircraft stops overnight it is based at that airport.
It does not have to be the same aircraft every night, it might change and will have to, for maintenance.
It does not have to be the same aircraft every night, it might change and will have to, for maintenance.
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I am sure that if it is the precursor to Monarch basing hopefully several aircraft in Malaga it will be good business for them. Just to put Malaga in context this winter there will be flights there from 26 UK airports. There is no other city in the world that has flights from as many UK airports. There are vast opportunities to do good business there and that means flying to airports outside the UK as well. If they exploit the opportunity they will do very well for themselves. Good luck to them.
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Thats why several of us moved here a few years ago pinhammond .
It is not unusual to change aircraft operating a set patern during a week/month, for maitainence..that is the norm. The fact is MON have an A320 based at AGP.
AGP is the centre of Europe....if a bit further south than the centre should be!
EZY have delayed making AGP a base and MON have on the face of it, seen the oppertunity and walked in.
New terminal under construction, with second runway to follow.
BTW I can actually see MON growing Blackpool to the detrement of Liverpool.
It is not unusual to change aircraft operating a set patern during a week/month, for maitainence..that is the norm. The fact is MON have an A320 based at AGP.
AGP is the centre of Europe....if a bit further south than the centre should be!
EZY have delayed making AGP a base and MON have on the face of it, seen the oppertunity and walked in.New terminal under construction, with second runway to follow.
BTW I can actually see MON growing Blackpool to the detrement of Liverpool.
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Hardly Lo-Co, paying for crew overnight hotel costs in Malaga and intending to operate the A320 with fewer than 180 seats? Someone must be subsidising this operation?
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You don't sniff Iberia, MON's handling agent do you?
They have got very cosy in respect of check in faciliies recently. Easier to check in for a Monarch Scheduled than a BA flight.
You don't sniff Iberia, MON's handling agent do you?
They have got very cosy in respect of check in faciliies recently. Easier to check in for a Monarch Scheduled than a BA flight.
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Initial over nighting whilst routes assesed but then ??? costs built into the operation.
As for less than 180 seats gives the SLF more room and they are happy to pay a v small increase on ticket price for this. The days of standing room only are receeding. People are wiseing up, to you get what you pay for and Monarch Scheduled have always been a notch above true lo cost sharks.
As for less than 180 seats gives the SLF more room and they are happy to pay a v small increase on ticket price for this. The days of standing room only are receeding. People are wiseing up, to you get what you pay for and Monarch Scheduled have always been a notch above true lo cost sharks.
Remove 6 seats that you could possibly sell for £40. Increase seat pitch on 10 (60 seats) rows by 3 inches and sell each for £15 extra. If you fill the jet, thats an extra £8-900 in revenue. Everyone is doing it with the emerg exit rows, this is just a logical extension to that.
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I think you will find that this aircraft is not the only one, that will have a row or two of seats removed.
It was decided months back that they were going to have an extra leg room area, at the front of the cabin.
The A321 are going to be likewise, sometime in November for use on the Scheduled flights.
The last two years, two B757 have had 219 seat config in the place of the normal 235 charter config.
So these flights were not subsidised and who says that crews might end up being local in the end.
I think you will find that this aircraft is not the only one, that will have a row or two of seats removed.
It was decided months back that they were going to have an extra leg room area, at the front of the cabin.
The A321 are going to be likewise, sometime in November for use on the Scheduled flights.
The last two years, two B757 have had 219 seat config in the place of the normal 235 charter config.
So these flights were not subsidised and who says that crews might end up being local in the end.
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Yes, Monarch's check-in facilities at AGP are excellent. They are way better than BA's. Their operational performance also seems much better than BA's. I have used both airlines regulalry on the LGW/AGP route. I have been delayed several times by BA. and only once by MON and that was to take on pax from a seriously delayed BA flight. MON's on board service makes BA's ridiculous deli service look pathetic. I can assure all readers that MON's service is regarded by the many people I know in Spain as the best on any UK route.
Yes, Monarch's check-in facilities at AGP are excellent. They are way better than BA's. Their operational performance also seems much better than BA's. I have used both airlines regulalry on the LGW/AGP route. I have been delayed several times by BA. and only once by MON and that was to take on pax from a seriously delayed BA flight. MON's on board service makes BA's ridiculous deli service look pathetic. I can assure all readers that MON's service is regarded by the many people I know in Spain as the best on any UK route.
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Monarch’s Malaga move
22 July 2005
Monarch Scheduled is to open its first overseas base at Malaga airport, allowing it to begin routes to Aberdeen, Newquay and Blackpool.
The airline is following Ryanair and easyJet in opening foreign bases and will station an aircraft and crew at the Spanish airport.
Basing an aircraft in Spain means Monarch does not have to scatter staff around the UK and can operate routes that might otherwise prove uneconomic.
As well as the three new routes, it will add three extra frequencies a week at Luton.
On November 3, it will start daily flights to Blackpool, three flights a week to New-quay and add the extra Luton flights, making 11 a week. Four flights a week to Aber-deen, its first Scottish route, will start on November 4.
“We have to be pan- European in our thinking because the UK market is largely saturated,” said Monarch Scheduled managing director Tim Jeans.
He said other bases could be established at Palma, Barcelona and Alicante.
Monarch Scheduled’s Malaga-based Airbus A320 will have 174-seats – six fewer than standard – allowing 48 extra-leg-room seats. They will be sold for a £30 return premium, allowing it to compete with carriers such as British Airways.
Return fares start at £75 from Blackpool and New-quay and £95 from Aberdeen.
22 July 2005
Monarch Scheduled is to open its first overseas base at Malaga airport, allowing it to begin routes to Aberdeen, Newquay and Blackpool.
The airline is following Ryanair and easyJet in opening foreign bases and will station an aircraft and crew at the Spanish airport.
Basing an aircraft in Spain means Monarch does not have to scatter staff around the UK and can operate routes that might otherwise prove uneconomic.
As well as the three new routes, it will add three extra frequencies a week at Luton.
On November 3, it will start daily flights to Blackpool, three flights a week to New-quay and add the extra Luton flights, making 11 a week. Four flights a week to Aber-deen, its first Scottish route, will start on November 4.
“We have to be pan- European in our thinking because the UK market is largely saturated,” said Monarch Scheduled managing director Tim Jeans.
He said other bases could be established at Palma, Barcelona and Alicante.
Monarch Scheduled’s Malaga-based Airbus A320 will have 174-seats – six fewer than standard – allowing 48 extra-leg-room seats. They will be sold for a £30 return premium, allowing it to compete with carriers such as British Airways.
Return fares start at £75 from Blackpool and New-quay and £95 from Aberdeen.
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Concerning the Blackpool to Malaga route which was announced last week the local press have today said that the airline have sold over 1000 seats in just 5 days since the route was announced. Monarch say it has been the most ever successful route they have ever had for selling seats on the back of a route announcement. Great news for BLK and even more destinations are on the way I believe.
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Yeah baby...
Even more route expansion for Monarch, this time again from MAN.
Mahon here comes the BIG M
Manchester to Menorca
From Spring next year you can fly from Manchester to the unspoilt island of Menorca from just £39.99 one way including tax.
The second largest of Balearic islands, Menorca offers a more conservative atmosphere than its sister islands and is ideal if you are looking for a relaxing holiday in a tranquil setting.
This new route starts flying 30 March 2006 with three flights a week (Mondays, Thursdays and Saturdays). So get booking now to spring off to Menorca next year.
I'm guessing this is not the end from the expansion spree Started by Mr. TJ.
Cheerio
Even more route expansion for Monarch, this time again from MAN.
Mahon here comes the BIG M
Manchester to Menorca
From Spring next year you can fly from Manchester to the unspoilt island of Menorca from just £39.99 one way including tax.
The second largest of Balearic islands, Menorca offers a more conservative atmosphere than its sister islands and is ideal if you are looking for a relaxing holiday in a tranquil setting.
This new route starts flying 30 March 2006 with three flights a week (Mondays, Thursdays and Saturdays). So get booking now to spring off to Menorca next year.
I'm guessing this is not the end from the expansion spree Started by Mr. TJ.
Cheerio
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Re the last posting, Menorca is hardly a new destination for Monarch. I've been flying there on Monarch Scheduled since 1995 from LTN, and the route was already well established back then. The flights are well patronised and in recent years have been operated by a 757. Monarch's service and food have always been excellent, way better than BA.
I hope they make a success of the Newquay-AGP route. Maybe we can persuade the Spanish to come to Oggyland for their surfing hols! Cornish pasties and cream teas on every flight??
I know the future of Newquay Airport is in doubt due to uncertainty over the military side of the airfield, which pays for ATC, fire cover, runway maintenance etc. However, a recent visit to the airport convinced me that passenger facilities and apron space at the airport desperately needs upgrading now, not in 2 or 3 years' time. The terminal is way too small to accomodate the recent increase in flights. At busy periods the check in queue blocks the exit from the baggage reclaim area and the entrance to the toilets.
The airport also doesn't even seem to have a proper apron for civilian operations. On the day I was visiting, the military-type dispersal areas and taxiway near the terminal were completely blocked by a BMI Baby 737, Air Southwest Dash-7 and a BAe146 charter flight. An arriving FR 737 had to park on the military side of the airport, about a mile from the terminal. The bemused pax were bussed to the terminal in a ramshackle collection of buses including a pensioned-off London Transport double-decker!
Welcome to Cornwall!
I hope they make a success of the Newquay-AGP route. Maybe we can persuade the Spanish to come to Oggyland for their surfing hols! Cornish pasties and cream teas on every flight??
I know the future of Newquay Airport is in doubt due to uncertainty over the military side of the airfield, which pays for ATC, fire cover, runway maintenance etc. However, a recent visit to the airport convinced me that passenger facilities and apron space at the airport desperately needs upgrading now, not in 2 or 3 years' time. The terminal is way too small to accomodate the recent increase in flights. At busy periods the check in queue blocks the exit from the baggage reclaim area and the entrance to the toilets.
The airport also doesn't even seem to have a proper apron for civilian operations. On the day I was visiting, the military-type dispersal areas and taxiway near the terminal were completely blocked by a BMI Baby 737, Air Southwest Dash-7 and a BAe146 charter flight. An arriving FR 737 had to park on the military side of the airport, about a mile from the terminal. The bemused pax were bussed to the terminal in a ramshackle collection of buses including a pensioned-off London Transport double-decker!
Welcome to Cornwall!
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You should not throw stones in glass houses!
Monarch has been flying to Mahon from Manchester for years, look out tomorrow and you will see one leave for Mahon.
What you did not say and l can read,that it is a "New Monarch Schedule" route.
Thats better Kooyheier!
You should not throw stones in glass houses!
Monarch has been flying to Mahon from Manchester for years, look out tomorrow and you will see one leave for Mahon.
What you did not say and l can read,that it is a "New Monarch Schedule" route.
Thats better Kooyheier!
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