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Erm, to an extent, but you are quoting these figures without any context.
When you consider that GLA-WAW only operates 2x weekly whilst FR operate PIK-WAW 3 weekly, then the figures look different. Wizz LF on GLA-WAW in Apr comes out to 68%, whereas presuming that FR operated their 3 weekly schedule as planned then theirs comes out to about 57%. I'm also interested as to why you've apparently chosen to ignore the numbers from the previous month (1st month of Wizz GLA ops) where GLA-WAW was 2324 and PIK was 2086 (possibly <50% LF)?
After 2 months it's too early to draw any conclusions, but I would hardly say the stats indicate stellar performance for FR/PIK.
When you consider that GLA-WAW only operates 2x weekly whilst FR operate PIK-WAW 3 weekly, then the figures look different. Wizz LF on GLA-WAW in Apr comes out to 68%, whereas presuming that FR operated their 3 weekly schedule as planned then theirs comes out to about 57%. I'm also interested as to why you've apparently chosen to ignore the numbers from the previous month (1st month of Wizz GLA ops) where GLA-WAW was 2324 and PIK was 2086 (possibly <50% LF)?
After 2 months it's too early to draw any conclusions, but I would hardly say the stats indicate stellar performance for FR/PIK.
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Yes I would agree with nef that its too early to tell - best to review on a quarterly basis. You could argue though that FR will be more satisfied than W6 after 2 months especially with their growth in mkt share.
FR market share after Month 1 = 47.3%
W6 market share = 52.7%
FR market share in Month 2 = 57.5%
W6 market share = 42.5%
Average market share after 2 months - FR = 52.5% W6 = 47.5%
At the end of the day its not about pax numbers or %LF or Mkt Share - it's about yield.
The positive aspect for the WAW route from both airports' perspective is the total increase in passengers from 4410 in March to 4611 a growth of 4.5% Not huge but in the right direction and let's hope it continues to benefit both airlines and airports.
FR market share after Month 1 = 47.3%
W6 market share = 52.7%
FR market share in Month 2 = 57.5%
W6 market share = 42.5%
Average market share after 2 months - FR = 52.5% W6 = 47.5%
At the end of the day its not about pax numbers or %LF or Mkt Share - it's about yield.
The positive aspect for the WAW route from both airports' perspective is the total increase in passengers from 4410 in March to 4611 a growth of 4.5% Not huge but in the right direction and let's hope it continues to benefit both airlines and airports.
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On the subject of the Warsaw flights, it might be interesting to see the demographics of the respective flights. Are more Poles using Wizz to visit Scotland? Is it the opposite for Prestwick and Ryanair? Or is it a mixed bag?
Not strictly relevant, but interesting to a geography geek like me.
Not strictly relevant, but interesting to a geography geek like me.
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One must remember the reasons why any PIK pax - for whichever route -
look as if their destination is Glasgow City. In reality the surface public transport availability is almost exclusively going to Glasgow, on that basis
a false impression is given. Where do they go after arriving in Glasgow?
Aberdeen, Dundee, Edinburgh, Inverness? Interesting to discover what the actual popular final destination is?
look as if their destination is Glasgow City. In reality the surface public transport availability is almost exclusively going to Glasgow, on that basis
a false impression is given. Where do they go after arriving in Glasgow?
Aberdeen, Dundee, Edinburgh, Inverness? Interesting to discover what the actual popular final destination is?
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Forget 'Dead, Good Brilliant'. EGPX is a great asset, in a great part of Scotland, accessible to much of the 'midland valley' population and with a good Wx record to-boot. It is sad, considering the military significance of this piece of infrastructure, and its continuing value as a 'crew-training' airfield, that its future management appears to lie in the hands of 'non-Scottish' organisations.
Hope it all works out.
Hope it all works out.
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Thomson B787 training flight?
It looks like G-TUIA (a Thomson B787) has just touched down at Prestwick on a short flight from MAN.
Is this part of a scheduled crew training flight?
Is this part of a scheduled crew training flight?
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G-TUIB will be up there shortly as well, just left MAN, where it will land at CWL at around 10:15, then onwards to Prestwick, before it returns to CWL sometime late afternoon. And yes the flights are purely training for the crew involved.
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Glasgow Prestwick Airport numbers keep climbing
The number of people using Glasgow Prestwick continues to climb, with 118,634 passengers passing through the airport in May, a 14% increase on the same month last year.
May’s numbers were approximately 6,500 up on those of April this year, representing the airport’s eighth consecutive month of year-on-year passenger growth.
Chief Executive Iain Cochrane said May's strong performance maintains the upwards trend in 2013 which started with January passenger numbers increasing by 31% over January 2012.
Ryanair has twenty-seven low-cost routes to nine countries around Europe from the airport. Mr Cochrane said May, the second full month of the airline's summer programme, was extremely encouraging and augured well for the rest of the year.
"I believe there are a number of reasons why our numbers keep rising at Prestwick. We're welcoming, convenient, affordable and the only airport in Scotland with its own railway station, offering all passengers half-price rail travel from/to anywhere in Scotland.
“Summer numbers here will be further boosted by Ryanair’s decision to add more flights to Malaga, Faro and Alicante in July. And as more Scots head for their summer holidays in June, July and August to destinations such as Spain, Italy and Poland, we expect to see passenger volumes continuing to increase over last year.”
The number of people using Glasgow Prestwick continues to climb, with 118,634 passengers passing through the airport in May, a 14% increase on the same month last year.
May’s numbers were approximately 6,500 up on those of April this year, representing the airport’s eighth consecutive month of year-on-year passenger growth.
Chief Executive Iain Cochrane said May's strong performance maintains the upwards trend in 2013 which started with January passenger numbers increasing by 31% over January 2012.
Ryanair has twenty-seven low-cost routes to nine countries around Europe from the airport. Mr Cochrane said May, the second full month of the airline's summer programme, was extremely encouraging and augured well for the rest of the year.
"I believe there are a number of reasons why our numbers keep rising at Prestwick. We're welcoming, convenient, affordable and the only airport in Scotland with its own railway station, offering all passengers half-price rail travel from/to anywhere in Scotland.
“Summer numbers here will be further boosted by Ryanair’s decision to add more flights to Malaga, Faro and Alicante in July. And as more Scots head for their summer holidays in June, July and August to destinations such as Spain, Italy and Poland, we expect to see passenger volumes continuing to increase over last year.”
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Out of interest, why did the Lourdes charters from Scotland, all of which until a few years ago, were at Prestwick, move mainly to Edinburgh, with just a few at Glasgow.
I see there are about 6 departures from EDI with 1 maybe 2 from GLA in July.
Were these full revenue flights
marginalised by the airport in favour of ' low cost ' carriers ?
I see there are about 6 departures from EDI with 1 maybe 2 from GLA in July.
Were these full revenue flights
marginalised by the airport in favour of ' low cost ' carriers ?
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Lourdes Charters
PIK still has a number of Lourdes charters every year - not sure of the total number but I'm sure there have been two return flights this year already - late March using Small Planet airframes?
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BBC News - Plane diverted to Glasgow Prestwick Airport after 'problem' Egyptair plane en route from Cairo to New York diverts to Prestwick after note found in toilet saying "I'll set this plane on fire".
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Was reading a local community magazine, where the local MP writes a column that usually has a wee bit discussing Prestwick. He wrote a rather cryptic piece about "potential good news by the end of the month".
Anyone got any ideas?
Anyone got any ideas?
, maybe new buyer or new airline coming in, Monarch maybe who knows??? but probably nothing.
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I`ll not go into the details CabinCrewe, but Monarch were going to operate a base from Prestwick a few years back after a successful series of summer charters.
The least said about how that fell through the better.
As usual though, your anti PIK bias shines through!!
The least said about how that fell through the better.
As usual though, your anti PIK bias shines through!!
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Flew from PIK for the first time on the 26th June since the FR PIK - STN service stopped and returned on the 5th July. Flew PIK - FAO - PIK and it was a very good experience. Both flights bang on time; brand new 737-8s, FR crew efficient and pleasant (Portugese) and at a decent saving on the equivalent EZY service from GLA. Flight out was around 95% full and the return about 75%.
As for PIK, bag drop was easy and greeted by a smiling young lady; security was efficient although 'matter of fact' but quickly through; landside terminal looked OK and even airside was a bit brighter than my last time through with better seating. Three flights out in the 45mins I was there, Pisa, Faro and El- Prat and despite good loads on each we still got a decent seat. However once outside the departure lounge you start to see the lack of investment - peeling paint on doors and many of the windows on the outside of the terminal 'finger' are not only suffering from peeling paint but also from damp and rot. Not a pretty sight and pretty obvious that the place is being run on a shoe-string at present.
Overall a pleasant outward and inward experience so please please let there be a new owner of PIK sooner rather than later. And well done FR - great service - and I'm a regular BA'er.
As for PIK, bag drop was easy and greeted by a smiling young lady; security was efficient although 'matter of fact' but quickly through; landside terminal looked OK and even airside was a bit brighter than my last time through with better seating. Three flights out in the 45mins I was there, Pisa, Faro and El- Prat and despite good loads on each we still got a decent seat. However once outside the departure lounge you start to see the lack of investment - peeling paint on doors and many of the windows on the outside of the terminal 'finger' are not only suffering from peeling paint but also from damp and rot. Not a pretty sight and pretty obvious that the place is being run on a shoe-string at present.
Overall a pleasant outward and inward experience so please please let there be a new owner of PIK sooner rather than later. And well done FR - great service - and I'm a regular BA'er.