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this was a situation where if fitted oxygen masks would not be used, if we suspect smoke, we suspect fire ????.
Fire in the aircraft so lets give all the pax oxygen and fuel the fire!!!., i think not !!!!
Good job those involved,...
Fire in the aircraft so lets give all the pax oxygen and fuel the fire!!!., i think not !!!!
Good job those involved,...
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from the pics i think the a/c was g-jedt, which i was on yesterday
r.e. smoke hoods they arent carried for pax as the theory goes that pax would spend more time putting them on and messing about than getting out of the a/c and following crew instructions
r.e. smoke hoods they arent carried for pax as the theory goes that pax would spend more time putting them on and messing about than getting out of the a/c and following crew instructions
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Smoke hoods are provided as protection to those fighting the fire. Above post re: use of oxygen is correct, the only time drop down oxygen would be used (on a/c that have it fitted) is during a cabin decompression. The masks have holes in anyway and do not provide 100% oxygen, it is a mix of oxygen and cabin air - useless in a smoke situation.
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FlyBe pax July up 37% on last year
05 August 2005
Flybe July 2005 passenger figures
Flybe today announced its latest (July) passenger figures, which show that passenger numbers increased by over one third (37 per cent) compared with the same period last year, and it was the first time Flybe has flown over 500,000 passengers in a month. The load factor was 74.6 per cent.
Summer traffic levels have been meeting expectations with Exeter, Southampton and Birmingham all showing good growth, especially on domestic routes. Flybe's regional bases have not seen any downturn in traffic as a result of the terrorist attacks, with passengers sticking to their travel plans.
Mike Rutter, Sales and Marketing Director, Flybe, commented: "The continued rise in oil prices is a concern, as across the industry this is impacting on costs, but we are very pleased with our passenger levels and a load factor of around 75 per cent is extremely solid. At this time of the year our routes for second home owners and holiday makers going to France come into their own, and we anticipate continued strong growth in passengers for the rest of the summer."
July 2005 July 2004² Year-on-year change
Passengers¹ 529,000 385,722 37.1%
No. of Aircraft 31 28 3
¹ Represents the number of earned seats flown. Earned seats also include seats provided for promotional purposes and staff for business travel.
² Previously reported July 2004 figures. July 2005 figures indicate the seats sold.
These figures do not include the Air France franchise and charter passenger numbers.
Flybe July 2005 passenger figures
Flybe today announced its latest (July) passenger figures, which show that passenger numbers increased by over one third (37 per cent) compared with the same period last year, and it was the first time Flybe has flown over 500,000 passengers in a month. The load factor was 74.6 per cent.
Summer traffic levels have been meeting expectations with Exeter, Southampton and Birmingham all showing good growth, especially on domestic routes. Flybe's regional bases have not seen any downturn in traffic as a result of the terrorist attacks, with passengers sticking to their travel plans.
Mike Rutter, Sales and Marketing Director, Flybe, commented: "The continued rise in oil prices is a concern, as across the industry this is impacting on costs, but we are very pleased with our passenger levels and a load factor of around 75 per cent is extremely solid. At this time of the year our routes for second home owners and holiday makers going to France come into their own, and we anticipate continued strong growth in passengers for the rest of the summer."
July 2005 July 2004² Year-on-year change
Passengers¹ 529,000 385,722 37.1%
No. of Aircraft 31 28 3
¹ Represents the number of earned seats flown. Earned seats also include seats provided for promotional purposes and staff for business travel.
² Previously reported July 2004 figures. July 2005 figures indicate the seats sold.
These figures do not include the Air France franchise and charter passenger numbers.
Well done BE
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A pretty feeble load factor when you are in the low fares business. EZY achieved 85.2 and RYR 84. It must also be remembered that July is one of the peak months. Which are the weak routes that are dragging those crucial load factors down?
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A pretty feeble load factor when you are in the low fares business.
Don't think the CAA has released July's figures yet, but here's a link to a pdf of the domestic pax figures by route:
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...e_Analysis.pdf
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Could this increase have anything to do with the new 737 routes from BHX and Exeter?? Loads are always well above 80% on the routes... Strange how figures can be reported!
Long may it continue, nice to see some positive news
Long may it continue, nice to see some positive news
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With the amount of tech and cancelled flights Fly Be have the load factors on the remaining flts should be 100% if not their origional loads were pretty poor whatever the price of their "low cost ticket"
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Yes, ALLMCC, of course ot is more than load factor which determines profitability. It is also more than overall yield. It is that combination of overall revenue and overall cost which determines the level of loss or profit. What concerns me about the Flybe position ids that it is blatantly competing in the low fares market and overwhelmingly advertises price in its blizzard advertising at least in the national papers. That means that price is likely to be the public image of the company now. I know that both EZY and RYR feature price just as strongly and both of them also sell seats at prices that are sometimes well in excess of their direct competitors. But what they have both seen recently is that yields have been going down in actual terms It must be the same in Flybe’s case.
The real difference between Flybe and, say, RYR and EZY is that Flybe has a very high proportion of short sectors. It does not matter what deal Flybe did for the Q400’s (and I am sure that that was excellent) or how cheap they are to operate, the fact remains that there is one arrival and one departure for every sector. This always makes very short sectors much more expensive to operate. Engine costs are higher on short sectors as well.
Flybe have a very high proportion of new routes (new routes usually equals immature routes) on which yields can be expected to be low.
They have come a long way since the British European days when they very much aspired to be a quality operation serving premium business markets (Remember them being the dominant operator at LCY?). I think the jury is still out on whether that transition has got staying power or whether they are going to have to fine another niche. They have neither the marketing strength, low costs or route density of their main competitors. There are reasons to feel jittery about some of the things that they are doing.
Watch for competitor announcements about sun routes ex BHX and watch out for news of some exciting things at NWI. I suspect that Flybe may be licking a wound or two. They may be more than just flesh wounds. We shall see!.
The real difference between Flybe and, say, RYR and EZY is that Flybe has a very high proportion of short sectors. It does not matter what deal Flybe did for the Q400’s (and I am sure that that was excellent) or how cheap they are to operate, the fact remains that there is one arrival and one departure for every sector. This always makes very short sectors much more expensive to operate. Engine costs are higher on short sectors as well.
Flybe have a very high proportion of new routes (new routes usually equals immature routes) on which yields can be expected to be low.
They have come a long way since the British European days when they very much aspired to be a quality operation serving premium business markets (Remember them being the dominant operator at LCY?). I think the jury is still out on whether that transition has got staying power or whether they are going to have to fine another niche. They have neither the marketing strength, low costs or route density of their main competitors. There are reasons to feel jittery about some of the things that they are doing.
Watch for competitor announcements about sun routes ex BHX and watch out for news of some exciting things at NWI. I suspect that Flybe may be licking a wound or two. They may be more than just flesh wounds. We shall see!.
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Dash-300's return to FlyBE!!
I'm sorry......I shouldn't laugh...... but I just can't help it!!!!!!!
So the story goes that the engines on the Dash-400's are 'not too well'. So all the new ones coming to the company are having the engines taken off them to replace those engines on the 'older' 400's which are knackered.
And the mighty Dash-300 returns to help sort things out.
I feel terrible for those guys who will now be taking a step back in time.
New people to the company going straight onto the 146 and then Embraer, ahead of those who should rightly be given a jet-seat but instead have to fly the old dash again. Terrible behaviour from the management.
So the story goes that the engines on the Dash-400's are 'not too well'. So all the new ones coming to the company are having the engines taken off them to replace those engines on the 'older' 400's which are knackered.
And the mighty Dash-300 returns to help sort things out.
I feel terrible for those guys who will now be taking a step back in time.
New people to the company going straight onto the 146 and then Embraer, ahead of those who should rightly be given a jet-seat but instead have to fly the old dash again. Terrible behaviour from the management.
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So they're having to fly these back from Canada? IIRC,they were delivered there,were they not?
Kind of answered my own question. They're currently not UK registered,so looks like a return trip,probably on the house @ Bombardier!
Kind of answered my own question. They're currently not UK registered,so looks like a return trip,probably on the house @ Bombardier!