MURCIA - SAN JAVIER, SPAIN
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I'm sorry to say that my experiences of using MJV have been very different to those of tangocharlie. Whilst I love the fact that there are palm trees on the walk from the aircraft parking stands to the arrivals hall, which includes a wait in the glorious Costa Calida sun, the departure lounge is an absolute shambles with a few vending machines, and one little cafe. Add to that a basic lack of seats, no room for passengers to queue which results in huge snakes around the lounge area, and the shambles in the check-in area (poor signage & organisation at the best of times), I'd say MJV has a little way to go before I'd say it can handle these new flights well.
It is a shame we've (WW) pulled out of MJV because the staff there were lovely and we seemed to have a loyal little following, but there wasn't market for two airlines on the EMAMJV route.
It is a shame we've (WW) pulled out of MJV because the staff there were lovely and we seemed to have a loyal little following, but there wasn't market for two airlines on the EMAMJV route.
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Thank you tangocharlie.
I do know ZBīs loads are extremely well. I work as a dispatcher at the airport and have dispatched some of the BHX flights. Bhx is a really profitable route. Loads on MJVBHX flights operated by Flybe are extremelly good as well, no less than 130pax on a Y148 seater 737-300.
I would really like to see other carriers such as Thomsonfly, Aer Lingusz and an increase of EZY or BE flights.
With regards to airport facilities, I do know we are experiencing lots of problems, and now even more due to the expansion works, but by the end of October MJV will be offering a much better service and facilities will be dramatically improved.
As for WW, it was really a shame to see them go, despite of EMA, the were offering MAN flights and could have added Cardiff or Tesside and I am really sure these destination would have got high loads. I do hope, they come back
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Javier
I do know ZBīs loads are extremely well. I work as a dispatcher at the airport and have dispatched some of the BHX flights. Bhx is a really profitable route. Loads on MJVBHX flights operated by Flybe are extremelly good as well, no less than 130pax on a Y148 seater 737-300.
I would really like to see other carriers such as Thomsonfly, Aer Lingusz and an increase of EZY or BE flights.
With regards to airport facilities, I do know we are experiencing lots of problems, and now even more due to the expansion works, but by the end of October MJV will be offering a much better service and facilities will be dramatically improved.
As for WW, it was really a shame to see them go, despite of EMA, the were offering MAN flights and could have added Cardiff or Tesside and I am really sure these destination would have got high loads. I do hope, they come back
Regards,
Javier
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Hi Javier,
There have been persistent rumours over the last couple of years that Ryanair are looking at setting up a base at Murcia. I would have thought that MJV would be a strong candidate for their second Spanish base, along with Valencia and maybe Seville. Have you heard anything to confirm this?
Once the terminal expansion is complete, are there any runway capacity constraints that would prevent MJV from becoming a base?
Do you think that MJV could attract enough outbound traffic (particularly Spanish people from the surrounding area) in order to justify routes to France, Italy, Germany etc, or would large inbound loads suffice?
Thanks.
There have been persistent rumours over the last couple of years that Ryanair are looking at setting up a base at Murcia. I would have thought that MJV would be a strong candidate for their second Spanish base, along with Valencia and maybe Seville. Have you heard anything to confirm this?
Once the terminal expansion is complete, are there any runway capacity constraints that would prevent MJV from becoming a base?
Do you think that MJV could attract enough outbound traffic (particularly Spanish people from the surrounding area) in order to justify routes to France, Italy, Germany etc, or would large inbound loads suffice?
Thanks.
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Hi Anna,
I have also heard that rumours. But I can not confirm that again, although they have been becoming more and more persistent and frequent since the expansion works. Certainly some FR bosses have visited the airport recently, although I do not know what exactly for.
When the second runway becomes fully operative and the terminal building extention is finished there will be 5 boarding gates, as well as 19 check-in counters and much more space for airlines offices (ops dep, ticket desk...).
Thanks to this improvement I do believe some airlines (FR or LS) will based one/two aircrafts at MJV.As for demand from surrounding area, destinations such as Paris, Rome or some german cities would be really welcomed as there are many foreigners living in the area most of the year, as well as lots of spaniards, that study or emmigrated to those countries.
The airline I would really like to set up a base at MJV is Flybe, as they, thanks to their Dash a/c could offer domestic flights within Spain to fill the lack of enough connections Murcia has (Mad 3 times daily, BCN twice a day and PMI three times a week). BE could continue offering their flights to SOU, EXT, BHX, NWi and probably other UK airports, and at the same time offer domestic routes using their DASH (really easy to fill)
I hope this info answers all your questions
Regards
Javier
I have also heard that rumours. But I can not confirm that again, although they have been becoming more and more persistent and frequent since the expansion works. Certainly some FR bosses have visited the airport recently, although I do not know what exactly for.
When the second runway becomes fully operative and the terminal building extention is finished there will be 5 boarding gates, as well as 19 check-in counters and much more space for airlines offices (ops dep, ticket desk...).
Thanks to this improvement I do believe some airlines (FR or LS) will based one/two aircrafts at MJV.As for demand from surrounding area, destinations such as Paris, Rome or some german cities would be really welcomed as there are many foreigners living in the area most of the year, as well as lots of spaniards, that study or emmigrated to those countries.
The airline I would really like to set up a base at MJV is Flybe, as they, thanks to their Dash a/c could offer domestic flights within Spain to fill the lack of enough connections Murcia has (Mad 3 times daily, BCN twice a day and PMI three times a week). BE could continue offering their flights to SOU, EXT, BHX, NWi and probably other UK airports, and at the same time offer domestic routes using their DASH (really easy to fill)
I hope this info answers all your questions
Regards
Javier
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Doesn't Murcia have restricted operating hours due to it also being a military airport?.
I was under the impression that it is only allowed to receive Commercial flights after 1pm-ish on Mon-Fri (Sat/Sun all day) except for a couple of weeks at the peak of the summer season.
If this is still the case that would restrict any airline from using MJV as a base.
I was under the impression that it is only allowed to receive Commercial flights after 1pm-ish on Mon-Fri (Sat/Sun all day) except for a couple of weeks at the peak of the summer season.
If this is still the case that would restrict any airline from using MJV as a base.
Murcia is a militiary training airfield. Although another runway has been finished and terminal extensions being built - there is supposed to be a proper Murcia airport being built south of the city. If you are thinking of flying into MJV 3rd/4th June - forget it! What is billed as the largest and most spectacular airshow ever held in Spain will be taking place and all flights are being diverted to Alicante. Should be a good show. The Sparrows will be there
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Im not sure why there is no GLA-MJV flights. Given the huge popularity for Southern Spain ( sometimes 5 flights a day or more to AGP or ALC) I cant see why a MJV route wouldnt work.
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Dear GW76
FR already operates flights from GLA area, they have several flights a week.
Anyway I agree with you. This year the scottish market has started to have a bigger presence at MJV (GSM out of EDI, as well as LS)
I do believe GLA-MJV would work really well, too. But the main problem MJV has is that there are still many airlines that do not know it and think the airport is no more than a hut with a couple of counters and a boarding gate.
Some of the also think they would never fill an aircraft because of an apparent lack of demand.
Fingers crossed and hope to see more airlines looking at MJV as a destination
Regards
FR already operates flights from GLA area, they have several flights a week.
Anyway I agree with you. This year the scottish market has started to have a bigger presence at MJV (GSM out of EDI, as well as LS)
I do believe GLA-MJV would work really well, too. But the main problem MJV has is that there are still many airlines that do not know it and think the airport is no more than a hut with a couple of counters and a boarding gate.
Some of the also think they would never fill an aircraft because of an apparent lack of demand.
Fingers crossed and hope to see more airlines looking at MJV as a destination
Regards
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FR originallly flew from Glasgow Prestwick to MJV on a daily basis. After about a year of operations they cut it to 3 times per week, so obviously the loads/yields weren't good enough for a daily. Don't know if a GLA-MJV route would fare any better.
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Originally Posted by smith
GSM EDI-MJV
Could do with a duty free shop there too.
Could do with a duty free shop there too.
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Sorry I was talking generally! You are quite right, duty free is not available within that artificial concept, the 'EU'( ( ) The pax can still stock up on non-DF stuff though, thereby depriving the families of Cabin Staff of their food and shelter.
Incidentally, the Canaries, though ruled by Spain, are outside the EU so are flights from the Spanish mainland classed as International?
Incidentally, the Canaries, though ruled by Spain, are outside the EU so are flights from the Spanish mainland classed as International?
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Any new routes, any new airlines to MJV?
Hello guys!!!
In about 1 monthīs time the new terminal building at MJV will be finalised and 19 check-in counters, 5 boarding gates, 2 more stands on the apron and a huge boarding lounge will be all ready for the current operating airlines and for many others, all ground staff at the airport would be eager to arrive and depart to/from MJV?
Have you got any idea what companies may be gathering interest in MJV?
I would really like to see WW coming from Cardiff, Birmingham (to start compatition with ZB and prove to BE how stupid their decisions are) or Manchester (competing with LS) or Thomsonfly from BOH, DSA,etc...
On the other hand, GSM seem to keep their interest in MJV by adding ABZ. Their ticket desk is ran by Servisair and I may say the service is really poor (office is quite often close even if a flight is being checked in, xbag is hardly charged...) I work for another handling/ticketing company, quite new actually, and we are searching for new clients. Does anybody of you have or know an email address, we could use to get in contact with them?
Thanks to all and all comments will be really appreciated
Regards from the sunny MJV
In about 1 monthīs time the new terminal building at MJV will be finalised and 19 check-in counters, 5 boarding gates, 2 more stands on the apron and a huge boarding lounge will be all ready for the current operating airlines and for many others, all ground staff at the airport would be eager to arrive and depart to/from MJV?
Have you got any idea what companies may be gathering interest in MJV?
I would really like to see WW coming from Cardiff, Birmingham (to start compatition with ZB and prove to BE how stupid their decisions are) or Manchester (competing with LS) or Thomsonfly from BOH, DSA,etc...
On the other hand, GSM seem to keep their interest in MJV by adding ABZ. Their ticket desk is ran by Servisair and I may say the service is really poor (office is quite often close even if a flight is being checked in, xbag is hardly charged...) I work for another handling/ticketing company, quite new actually, and we are searching for new clients. Does anybody of you have or know an email address, we could use to get in contact with them?
Thanks to all and all comments will be really appreciated
Regards from the sunny MJV