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"Surely the fact it serves circa 1 million passengers is enough proof to show it was needed in the first place, and does have a future?"
Er, just like Coventry? (Sorry, if I hadn't said it someone else would have done).
Don't know about the future (who does?) but I still have fond memories of the past - bring back the Vulcan scramble.
Er, just like Coventry? (Sorry, if I hadn't said it someone else would have done).
Don't know about the future (who does?) but I still have fond memories of the past - bring back the Vulcan scramble.
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You only have to look at similar airports such as Blackpool, Teeside, Coventry to predict where the future lies for DSA.
Its a shame as I am from the area but you have to be realistic. And now that a further fee looks likely it will only put off passengers and airlines from using DSA.
Its a shame as I am from the area but you have to be realistic. And now that a further fee looks likely it will only put off passengers and airlines from using DSA.
Good point Timmy W.
The fact is, in my view, there are just too many airports in England and with the present decline in passengers generally, the situation is only made worse. The airports you mention all have competing airports within an hour's drive and must therefore be able to offer something pretty special if they are to succeed! Imposing a development tax on passengers would not fall within my definition of 'pretty special'! Moreover, the LOCOs just throw their teddys out and go elsewhere.
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The fact is, in my view, there are just too many airports in England and with the present decline in passengers generally, the situation is only made worse. The airports you mention all have competing airports within an hour's drive and must therefore be able to offer something pretty special if they are to succeed! Imposing a development tax on passengers would not fall within my definition of 'pretty special'! Moreover, the LOCOs just throw their teddys out and go elsewhere.
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We flew from DSA in september and got put off for good. Check-in was fine but we had to wait 34mins for someone to come to the desk to sort out a wheelchair. She was apparently late as she had to clean some faeces up from the gents toilets (does cleaning as well as wheelchairs). Security was a joke and gestapo like (even worse than leeds) as was the queue for the bar. Flight left late as dispatch were not ready but sent us down to board where we had to wait for 15mins. Im not usually one to moan, but with airlines pulling out..i really cant blame them.
DSA really did have potential but for the sake of another 30mins or so extra travelling, we'll hop across the pennines.
DSA really did have potential but for the sake of another 30mins or so extra travelling, we'll hop across the pennines.
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there are just too many airports in England
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How long would you give DSA then?
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Its a case of being realistic. One some days this winter there will be as few as 2 departures a day from DSA. How can an airport survive on such figures?
Bring in a development charge and you might as well close in the winter.
The more you look at it, the more you see there is no future. Easyjet pulled out after only a few months, with little chance of anyone else coming in to pick up the routes. Many have posted on here stating they can't see what operators will come in.
Bring in a development charge and you might as well close in the winter.
The more you look at it, the more you see there is no future. Easyjet pulled out after only a few months, with little chance of anyone else coming in to pick up the routes. Many have posted on here stating they can't see what operators will come in.
TimmyW
And some have said
Time and time again on these forums we see nothing but un-informed, ill founded speculation by people who clearly know little about how airports or airlines and the industry in general works, (see above). Not just about DSA but pretty much any airport or airline you can think of. A collection of muppets running from forum to forum and reporting 'hearing a rumour', posted by another chimp with a different user name, but the same grammatical style and spelling/syntax errors. Wonder who they could be?
You could put a thousand monkeys in a room with typewriters and they'd produce a more interesting read, or better cup of coffee, than all these fanboy sciolists put together.
So just where did you hear of 'DSA set to introduce a development charge'?
Many have posted on here stating they can't see what operators will come in
When Mike Morton mentioned the Wizz Air expansion a few weeks ago on the radio, I thought it sounded like it was pretty much in the bag. Unfortunately nothing more but hot air.
Time and time again on these forums we see nothing but un-informed, ill founded speculation by people who clearly know little about how airports or airlines and the industry in general works, (see above). Not just about DSA but pretty much any airport or airline you can think of. A collection of muppets running from forum to forum and reporting 'hearing a rumour', posted by another chimp with a different user name, but the same grammatical style and spelling/syntax errors. Wonder who they could be?
You could put a thousand monkeys in a room with typewriters and they'd produce a more interesting read, or better cup of coffee, than all these fanboy sciolists put together.So just where did you hear of 'DSA set to introduce a development charge'?
One some days this winter there will be as few as 2 departures a day from DSA. How can an airport survive on such figures
How do airports survive on such low volume? I read on PPRUNE of airports in Ireland and UK loosing £2,000,000 per year and not puting money aside for resurfacing or major repairs and replacements, surely some airports must follow Shefield in to oblivion?
jumpseater, how does an aiport survive on so few flights?
If there are only 2 rotations per day, can the huge volume of airspace be justified ?
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Last winter there were only 3 departures some days out of DSA, and i'm pretty sure that after Easyjet leave in January, some days there will only be 2.
Alot of the shops inside DSA have packed in because there is simply no custom with such long gaps between flights. Then when the airport gets busier in the summer, there's no facilities for passengers to enjoy. Vicious circle.
There was a report last year that DSA loses over a million pound per month. Surely that connot be sustained?
Alot of the shops inside DSA have packed in because there is simply no custom with such long gaps between flights. Then when the airport gets busier in the summer, there's no facilities for passengers to enjoy. Vicious circle.
There was a report last year that DSA loses over a million pound per month. Surely that connot be sustained?
Alot of the shops inside DSA have packed in because there is simply no custom
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If the former, it is not exactly a vote of confidence in DSA. Last time I was there there were not many shops, are any left? Is the bar still open?
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Landside: There is a WHSmith that is open most times during the day and to suit flight departures during the evenings. There is also a Costa Coffee which again is open early morning to evening, or to suit flight departures.
Airside: There is a WHSmith, Costa Coffee, Alpha Retail (Duty Free), and a Wetherspoons bar also serving hot and cold meals. The bar will always remains open while passengers are in the departure lounge. I believe it is an airport contract and perhaps some sort of health and safety thing too, as obviously the main source of drinks and refreshments after security.
Time and time again on these forums we see nothing but un-informed, ill founded speculation by people who clearly know little about how airports or airlines and the industry in general works, (see above). Not just about DSA but pretty much any airport or airline you can think of. A collection of muppets running from forum to forum and reporting 'hearing a rumour', posted by another chimp with a different user name, but the same grammatical style and spelling/syntax errors. Wonder who they could be? You could put a thousand monkeys in a room with typewriters and they'd produce a more interesting read, or better cup of coffee, than all these fanboy sciolists put together.
So just where did you hear of 'DSA set to introduce a development charge'?
You could put a thousand monkeys in a room with typewriters and they'd produce a more interesting read, or better cup of coffee, than all these fanboy sciolists put together.So just where did you hear of 'DSA set to introduce a development charge'?
Back i crawl.
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Perhaps Jumpseater should remember that this is after all a rumour network. Inevitably, therefore, fact, fiction, speculation and guesswork will form a significant part of the forum. Evidently some participants like to drop the occasional 'bombshell' and await the response!
As I understand it, forum reading is not compulsory but the contributions of professionals and amateurs alike make for moderately interesting reading!
But it is a rumour network [and a free country]!!
Helen
As I understand it, forum reading is not compulsory but the contributions of professionals and amateurs alike make for moderately interesting reading!
But it is a rumour network [and a free country]!!
Helen
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Oh I never forget that, dunno what a free country has to do with it, this is a forum. I see Jimmy has run away bravely to the fall back position of 'knowing' DSA are considering a development charge, rather than 'set to introduce'
As he 'knows' DSA are considering it it would indicate that he's part of VAS/RHADS management to know such commercially sensitive info. And he's posting such info in a public forum, where he has expressed a very negative opinion of DSA ...
Pug has shown us he can cut and paste a section of text again, and add a meaningless one liner. Unless of course they are both refering to a one liner from Ryanair, which the snake handlers on the other fora are assuming
is a factual statement regarding DSA/VAS policy and or future policy.
Ryanair, the most reliable source of information about another business. I find them particularly plausible when talking to a media outlet, I don't think they tell any fibs whatsoever ...
I]Perhaps Jumpseater should remember that this is after all a rumour network.[/I]
As he 'knows' DSA are considering it it would indicate that he's part of VAS/RHADS management to know such commercially sensitive info. And he's posting such info in a public forum, where he has expressed a very negative opinion of DSA ...
Pug has shown us he can cut and paste a section of text again, and add a meaningless one liner. Unless of course they are both refering to a one liner from Ryanair, which the snake handlers on the other fora are assuming
is a factual statement regarding DSA/VAS policy and or future policy.
Ryanair, the most reliable source of information about another business. I find them particularly plausible when talking to a media outlet, I don't think they tell any fibs whatsoever ...
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Why would FR invent that DSA is considering a development charge. Why sour a commercial relationship with Peel/VAS making up incorrect rubbish? In this case I think we can take FR at 'face value'
They seem very clearly to be putting pressure of Peel/VAS not to introduce a development charge
They seem very clearly to be putting pressure of Peel/VAS not to introduce a development charge
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Hearing from my sources today that the management at DSA ordered the closure of the EGCN forum at EGCN.CO.UK | Robin Hood Airport Doncaster Sheffield | Doncaster Airport | RAF Finningley | RAF Finningley. On investigation, I can see the forum has ceased, which is a shame as I enjoyed reading through it, if not posting.
Strange that they should want it closing? There was a long thread about the likely hood of the development charge being introduced. I wonder if thats a reason.
Strange that they should want it closing? There was a long thread about the likely hood of the development charge being introduced. I wonder if thats a reason.
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Well if true, that's rediculous! They will have job getting this site closed down without lots of controversy and bad press for the management! Continue ALL rumours on here i say!