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"So no more Trislanders?"
An article in the local press yesterday said they were keeping the Tris running until spring, so for the coming week or so we will have 3 Tris, the 410 and a 228!
It has been a great source of bewilderment that if one of the ATRs or the jet goes tech then a charter aircraft is brought straight in. Talking about the delay in responding to tech a/c Aurigny say that there were no charter aircraft available, anywhere, that were capable of getting into ACI.
An article in the local press yesterday said they were keeping the Tris running until spring, so for the coming week or so we will have 3 Tris, the 410 and a 228!
It has been a great source of bewilderment that if one of the ATRs or the jet goes tech then a charter aircraft is brought straight in. Talking about the delay in responding to tech a/c Aurigny say that there were no charter aircraft available, anywhere, that were capable of getting into ACI.
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A mole tells me Aurigny have just discovered that it is cheaper to charter in a Let410 to operate the ACI routes than it is to struggle on with a Trislander. 
Several people including myself have suggested to Aurigny that they donate JOEY to Duxford, but its falling on deaf ears. That is, assuming Duxford even want it !
Several people including myself have suggested to Aurigny that they donate JOEY to Duxford, but its falling on deaf ears. That is, assuming Duxford even want it !
G-JOEY
JOEY is definitely part of British Aviation history.
Flew in her as long ago as 1978 during family holiday in the CI, although I think she still wore her previous in-sequence reg. at the time.
Flew in her as long ago as 1978 during family holiday in the CI, although I think she still wore her previous in-sequence reg. at the time.
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GCI is now ACMI central. A DAT AT7 sits by the tower, op for Blue Islands. The VLM F50 currently sitting outside Anglo operating GR's 2x daily LCYs is now also accompanied by the first company D28. As previously mentioned the Van Air L4T is now based ACI.
five zero by ortac, on the one hand - good shout, it might well be cheaper to use the latter exclusively rather than press on with the BN2s but the whole point of getting it down to the islands was to ensure continuity/reliability of service for ACI. One aircraft, Tris or otherwise, can't hope to fulfil that requirement and hence the Van Air charter. AFAIK the L4T, BN2s (and increasingly the D28 - and D28s when the next machine arrives) will operate in parallel until GR are fully ready to tranfer the burden onto the D28s exclusively. This may take some time and as such the BN2s will probably operate well into Q1 2015.
Skippy, if you book SOU-ACI-GCI-DNR-GCI-ACI-SOU (overkill, I know...
) sometime in the next couple of months you're bound to get at least one flight on a BN2.
Malthouse, re whacking another machine down from the UK as soon as aircraft go tech, it's much easy to find an aircraft which will do what the E95 and AT7s do (Titan and Cello amongst others exist for that very purpose) than to find an aircraft to do what the Tris does as its bread and butter. You'd have to ring Citywing and fly an L4T down from IOM, Logie for a DHT all the way from GLA or maybe Skybus for a DHT from Scilly (although their spare capacity is generally thin on the ground). For the day. Not easy to justify compared to the cost and convenience of sending a 733 down from LTN for a few runs.
Jerbourg, EK77WNCL, five zero by ortac, EGHQ and Wycombe, the problem from GR's point of view with despatching JOEY off to Duxford I think comes from the clamour of local opinion which wants him kept in the islands. MD reputedly favours a pole outside GCI airport, although after five years you can imagine what it'd look like. Keeping him flying is a fairly controversial and very extravagant use of taxpayers' money, especially in light of the recent protest over proposed tax measures. There was a plan a while back to send JOEY up to Solent Sky museum in Southampton, but we'll have to wait and see.
five zero by ortac, on the one hand - good shout, it might well be cheaper to use the latter exclusively rather than press on with the BN2s but the whole point of getting it down to the islands was to ensure continuity/reliability of service for ACI. One aircraft, Tris or otherwise, can't hope to fulfil that requirement and hence the Van Air charter. AFAIK the L4T, BN2s (and increasingly the D28 - and D28s when the next machine arrives) will operate in parallel until GR are fully ready to tranfer the burden onto the D28s exclusively. This may take some time and as such the BN2s will probably operate well into Q1 2015.
Skippy, if you book SOU-ACI-GCI-DNR-GCI-ACI-SOU (overkill, I know...
) sometime in the next couple of months you're bound to get at least one flight on a BN2.Malthouse, re whacking another machine down from the UK as soon as aircraft go tech, it's much easy to find an aircraft which will do what the E95 and AT7s do (Titan and Cello amongst others exist for that very purpose) than to find an aircraft to do what the Tris does as its bread and butter. You'd have to ring Citywing and fly an L4T down from IOM, Logie for a DHT all the way from GLA or maybe Skybus for a DHT from Scilly (although their spare capacity is generally thin on the ground). For the day. Not easy to justify compared to the cost and convenience of sending a 733 down from LTN for a few runs.
Jerbourg, EK77WNCL, five zero by ortac, EGHQ and Wycombe, the problem from GR's point of view with despatching JOEY off to Duxford I think comes from the clamour of local opinion which wants him kept in the islands. MD reputedly favours a pole outside GCI airport, although after five years you can imagine what it'd look like. Keeping him flying is a fairly controversial and very extravagant use of taxpayers' money, especially in light of the recent protest over proposed tax measures. There was a plan a while back to send JOEY up to Solent Sky museum in Southampton, but we'll have to wait and see.
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Have it at Duxford, bring it back to the islands in the summer to do the £30 Joey flights, simple! After all it's only about 90 minutes from Duxford. Are there legal problems with doing flights at airshows?
And if someone of a more appropriate age would be willing, please try and set up an petition do do that!
And if someone of a more appropriate age would be willing, please try and set up an petition do do that!
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Largest ac into ACI
I believe that the largest ac into ACI remains the 4 engined (Lycoming (I think) Pistons) HP Herald on a demo flight to Jersey Airlines in the late 1950s
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Largest aircraft in Alderney
Link to Edward Pinnegar's website with a photo of a Dart Herald in Alderney. He claims that to be the largest. Edward Pinnegar :: Old Photographs
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Apologies kar42 and others, the website is a tad out of date. I've been busy (Cambridge interviews this week) but will put time into it sometime. Research since has revealed a few other claims to the title of largest aircraft in Alderney, and they go quite a way to displace that of an errant Let 410.
The Handley Page Herald which landed on a demo flight in Sept 1956 is probably the most well-known - the fact that it used only about 450yds of runway despite being loaded with HP officials and press is testament to its STOL capability. Alas with four old Leonides it was also dated by the time it left the factory and hence the progression to Darts, which made it a whole lot more competitive.
To my knowledge GR never brought a Shorts into Alderney. The 'age of the Shed' was also one where by today's standards they had a huge fleet of Trislanders (nine at one stage) - so ACI was well-served. However, there was a Cessna Citation owner in the 1990s who flew his machine off a grass strip in Sweden and brought it down to Alderney several time - probably the fastest jet to have landed in the island.
Sometime in the 1960s-70s (and perhaps more than once) an RAF Andover brought members of the Royal Family down to Alderney - somewhere in the Alderney Museum archive there is a very grainy picture. Keith Webster (who retired a couple of years ago as Airport Manager and Breakwater Superintendent amongst other things) said there'd been a Herc down on a few occasions although one again, no substantative research for this other than word-of-mouth.
Lastly, in Sept 1939 a Handley Page H.P.54 Harrow more or less crashlanded at ACI with some very secretive experimental navigational equipment onboard. As a heavy bomber with an empty weight alone of 13,600lb I suspect this nabs the title of largest aircraft ever in Alderney. It flew off after a couple of months' work by some engineers flown down from the mainland to get fixed up sharpish before anyone got their mits on it. One of then met a local girl and moved back to live in Alderney after the occupation. Story related very well in the Alderney Press sometime in the last couple of years.
Apologies for thread-drift, but it was being discussed. Perhaps best to continue it on the ALDERNEY thread.
The Handley Page Herald which landed on a demo flight in Sept 1956 is probably the most well-known - the fact that it used only about 450yds of runway despite being loaded with HP officials and press is testament to its STOL capability. Alas with four old Leonides it was also dated by the time it left the factory and hence the progression to Darts, which made it a whole lot more competitive.
To my knowledge GR never brought a Shorts into Alderney. The 'age of the Shed' was also one where by today's standards they had a huge fleet of Trislanders (nine at one stage) - so ACI was well-served. However, there was a Cessna Citation owner in the 1990s who flew his machine off a grass strip in Sweden and brought it down to Alderney several time - probably the fastest jet to have landed in the island.
Sometime in the 1960s-70s (and perhaps more than once) an RAF Andover brought members of the Royal Family down to Alderney - somewhere in the Alderney Museum archive there is a very grainy picture. Keith Webster (who retired a couple of years ago as Airport Manager and Breakwater Superintendent amongst other things) said there'd been a Herc down on a few occasions although one again, no substantative research for this other than word-of-mouth.
Lastly, in Sept 1939 a Handley Page H.P.54 Harrow more or less crashlanded at ACI with some very secretive experimental navigational equipment onboard. As a heavy bomber with an empty weight alone of 13,600lb I suspect this nabs the title of largest aircraft ever in Alderney. It flew off after a couple of months' work by some engineers flown down from the mainland to get fixed up sharpish before anyone got their mits on it. One of then met a local girl and moved back to live in Alderney after the occupation. Story related very well in the Alderney Press sometime in the last couple of years.
Apologies for thread-drift, but it was being discussed. Perhaps best to continue it on the ALDERNEY thread.
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Wow, I never knew such a large aircraft managed to get into ACI - although I also never knew Dart Herald produced a 4 engined version either!
I am surprised the Dash 7 never made it in to ACI with its STOL capabilities. It got into Bembridge (Isle of Wight) I am told - although cannot find any pics of that either.
I am surprised the Dash 7 never made it in to ACI with its STOL capabilities. It got into Bembridge (Isle of Wight) I am told - although cannot find any pics of that either.
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I don't recall a Shorts landing at Alderney. I would be interested to know the identity of the Shorts 330. Aurigny never operated a Shorts 330 in their own right so it would have to have been another operator. A Guernsey based Citation flew in/out Alderney at least a couple of times.