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I meaned Touching.....
There has been no glide path on 33 since about Nov 2004, but I see notam say ILS all restored to Cat 1 now.
It was a bit tongue in cheek about Flywho......the day they make any App to BHX etc.
The photo was that of the "Midland" 767 during training at BHX - & look what happened to that op.
I meaned Touching.....
There has been no glide path on 33 since about Nov 2004, but I see notam say ILS all restored to Cat 1 now.
It was a bit tongue in cheek about Flywho......the day they make any App to BHX etc.
The photo was that of the "Midland" 767 during training at BHX - & look what happened to that op.
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Thanks...
You plane spotters speak another language - I am crew and dont use as much jargon as you guys !!!!!!....
Well all this name calling re FW doesn't really get us anywhere, I guess all we can do is wait and see and if it happens then thats fantastic....
However, I bet anyone on here that has posted negative comments, If FW do take to the sky this summer, all the posts will change "Oh they wont last 5minutes etc etc", instead of " WOW we were wrong - Good luck to them"
Well all this name calling re FW doesn't really get us anywhere, I guess all we can do is wait and see and if it happens then thats fantastic....
However, I bet anyone on here that has posted negative comments, If FW do take to the sky this summer, all the posts will change "Oh they wont last 5minutes etc etc", instead of " WOW we were wrong - Good luck to them"
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Well I'm blowed - a "Spotter"
Haven't underlined a reg in over 30 years now! Prefer to be inside sat on the left myself.
Too long in the teeth to think I'll need to bite the Flywho bullet.
Haven't underlined a reg in over 30 years now! Prefer to be inside sat on the left myself.
Too long in the teeth to think I'll need to bite the Flywho bullet.
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Sorry mate - just thought with all the comments above u were one of them !
Gotta say guys I applied to FW as crew and was successful and that was a while ago. They have been nothing but fantastic in keeping touch with us all and updating all staff who have decided to join them - The loyalty staff have shown in FW is great and I hope I get to fly with them all as they are a great bunch of people....Of course many of us have moved on since the initial launch but I for one have remained positive and I do hope that 2006 is FW's year as I will be there.
Gotta say guys I applied to FW as crew and was successful and that was a while ago. They have been nothing but fantastic in keeping touch with us all and updating all staff who have decided to join them - The loyalty staff have shown in FW is great and I hope I get to fly with them all as they are a great bunch of people....Of course many of us have moved on since the initial launch but I for one have remained positive and I do hope that 2006 is FW's year as I will be there.
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Originally Posted by Fried_Chicken
Flywho have currently got a 'display' including a few seats/cabin mock up on the 1st floor (opposite Burger King) in T1 at Birmingham. During the day there is a nice young lady there to answer questions & generally "sell" the concept to Joe Public
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My point here is although the stand is a nice idea, flyWho just aren't getting their name out there. Where are the press ads, radio spots and billboards? I live 8 miles from BHX and so far have seen nothing. Does no-one find this worrying? How are they going to fill widebody aircraft by July if no-one has heard of them?
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As I said lets just wait and see eh...
There is no point in been negative until it happens/does not happen......
If it does I will be leaving my current airline and moving over thats for sure.
We all have to take risks at some point.
There is no point in been negative until it happens/does not happen......
If it does I will be leaving my current airline and moving over thats for sure.
We all have to take risks at some point.
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Agree with you jmc757, I've seen the stand in T1 but they'll need more than that and an uninformative website to sell their seats. I'm really surprised they're working with just what appears to be one operator to Florida and a little known one at that. If this venture was seen as a viable proposition the major tour operators to Florida would be queing up to have allocations on their flights. I'm also yet to see any kind of advertising. You'd think the whole BHX area would be awash with it. If it gets off he ground it will be little more than a second rate charter. The whole thing smacks of despiration.
I'm very surpirised at the choice of aircraft (despiration again maybe) and the type of operation. From the beginning flywho have claimed they will be ofering a premium product. Fair enough but let's be honest, knackered old L1011's (great in their day) but their tatty ageing interiors are hardly state of the art and lend themselves to a quality premium product. I can't imagine they (if there is to be more than one aircraft) will have new interiors, just larger seats and a possible flywho respray. The seats will probably not be a new design or made especially for flywho but be ex XYZ airways business or first class seats. The flights will not be operated by flywho crews but by crews (and with all respect to them) that are used to operating packed solid charter flights, where will the flywho ethos be there? Offering a premium service takes more than offering a fancy meal, a hot towel and a bottle of wine. The established UK charter airlines have got their act together and now offer better leg room, an upgraded inflight service and on modern reliable aircraft. The UK/Florida market is huge and there probably is room for another airline but I seriously dought it will be flywho.
want2fly, you're right, we all have to take risks but there are risks and there are risks. I admire your confidence in flywho and all the best to you if you decide to join them.
I'm very surpirised at the choice of aircraft (despiration again maybe) and the type of operation. From the beginning flywho have claimed they will be ofering a premium product. Fair enough but let's be honest, knackered old L1011's (great in their day) but their tatty ageing interiors are hardly state of the art and lend themselves to a quality premium product. I can't imagine they (if there is to be more than one aircraft) will have new interiors, just larger seats and a possible flywho respray. The seats will probably not be a new design or made especially for flywho but be ex XYZ airways business or first class seats. The flights will not be operated by flywho crews but by crews (and with all respect to them) that are used to operating packed solid charter flights, where will the flywho ethos be there? Offering a premium service takes more than offering a fancy meal, a hot towel and a bottle of wine. The established UK charter airlines have got their act together and now offer better leg room, an upgraded inflight service and on modern reliable aircraft. The UK/Florida market is huge and there probably is room for another airline but I seriously dought it will be flywho.
want2fly, you're right, we all have to take risks but there are risks and there are risks. I admire your confidence in flywho and all the best to you if you decide to join them.
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Thanks for reply...
You may be right about the advertising it is a little un-orthodox but if they are selling seats then thats great !
Yeah Im taking a risk - but whats the worst that can happen - I go I join they fold I join another airline - Its not the end of the world....
I think they have a great product and I trust them so as I said previously I will be joining....
To be honest I didn't really see ( or did I miss it ) the advertising for Maxjet and Eos - Maybe they only did it in the SE of UK but as I currently fly out of SE UK I still never saw it...
I think we saw these comments when the above mentioned started and they seem to be doing ok...
Lets just wait and see
PS - FW are no longer operating on a Tristar !!!!!
You may be right about the advertising it is a little un-orthodox but if they are selling seats then thats great !
Yeah Im taking a risk - but whats the worst that can happen - I go I join they fold I join another airline - Its not the end of the world....
I think they have a great product and I trust them so as I said previously I will be joining....
To be honest I didn't really see ( or did I miss it ) the advertising for Maxjet and Eos - Maybe they only did it in the SE of UK but as I currently fly out of SE UK I still never saw it...
I think we saw these comments when the above mentioned started and they seem to be doing ok...
Lets just wait and see
PS - FW are no longer operating on a Tristar !!!!!
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I saw Maxjet & EOS on BBC News 24 - several times and at Prime times - not bad exposure over here.
Take a look at Ozjet - now ceased on their prime objective. Stoddart tried ex-EAC knackered & noisy 73-200's against new 73 NG's of V.Blue, Qantas and new 320's of Jetstar.
Nobody's going to keep paying premium rates to fly on geriatric jets!
Take a look at Ozjet - now ceased on their prime objective. Stoddart tried ex-EAC knackered & noisy 73-200's against new 73 NG's of V.Blue, Qantas and new 320's of Jetstar.
Nobody's going to keep paying premium rates to fly on geriatric jets!
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This will not happen. I have an "inside" friend who did some time with them in 04, she was bemused by the lack of urgency, the lack of a reservation system, they were literally using a bar chart for bookings.
They were more interested in the colour of the blankets on board than actually getting an aircraft sorted out or even an AOC.
Pie in the sky dreams, many relaunches and renamed about 5 times. A joke.
They were more interested in the colour of the blankets on board than actually getting an aircraft sorted out or even an AOC.
Pie in the sky dreams, many relaunches and renamed about 5 times. A joke.
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Hi want2fly
Thanks for your reply but you can’t compare flywho with Maxjet and Eos, there is absolutely no comparison. These two airlines are scheduled business class airlines offering a high quality product aimed at business travellers. They operate their own aircraft with their own pilots and cabin crew. They both have online reservation systems, seats are bookable and marketed from both ends of the route plus they have added passenger benfits such as airport lounges etc etc. They compete in and market themselves at the corporate end of the market. flywho is simply a name. They are aiming at the leisure market and will operate as a charter. They currently have nothing tangible, an unheard of company (CEO being the same as flywho!!!) is selling their seats and a charter airline will operate their flights. They don’t have an online reservations system, the website advises you to call an 0870 number to book. They are not featured in any tour operators brochures. Ask yourself, would you hand over several hundreds of pounds (possibly thousands) simply from reading the rubbish on their website? I wouldn’t. The whole thing is laughable, as one poster has already said, dreamers.
If I am proved wrong I'll be the first to admit it.
Thanks for your reply but you can’t compare flywho with Maxjet and Eos, there is absolutely no comparison. These two airlines are scheduled business class airlines offering a high quality product aimed at business travellers. They operate their own aircraft with their own pilots and cabin crew. They both have online reservation systems, seats are bookable and marketed from both ends of the route plus they have added passenger benfits such as airport lounges etc etc. They compete in and market themselves at the corporate end of the market. flywho is simply a name. They are aiming at the leisure market and will operate as a charter. They currently have nothing tangible, an unheard of company (CEO being the same as flywho!!!) is selling their seats and a charter airline will operate their flights. They don’t have an online reservations system, the website advises you to call an 0870 number to book. They are not featured in any tour operators brochures. Ask yourself, would you hand over several hundreds of pounds (possibly thousands) simply from reading the rubbish on their website? I wouldn’t. The whole thing is laughable, as one poster has already said, dreamers.
If I am proved wrong I'll be the first to admit it.
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Sorry you missed understood me !
I was not comapring the airlines - I was referring to the advertisments....
Did Maxjet not start out as something else then went through name change ? Both Eos and Maxjet have come a long way since the inital launch and I remember several negative comments re these airlines - eg - they wont last, no one want's to fly from STN etc etc look at them now both doing really well.
Remeber that EOS and Maxjet did not always have such a interactive website nor did they start off with lounge access or frequent flyer points - I admit they have got these very quickly but in the begining it was limited..
I subscribe to TTG and only last week in the business traveller mag there was a fantastic article on both these airlines and how they started and where they are going - great news but as above remember all the negatives in the begining.
I know they are not in same league no were near as FW are not a business class airline nor are they aiming for business pax its purely leisure...
I do wish they would make some major announcements soon tho I gotta say its very frustrating.
Lets hang on eh ?
I was not comapring the airlines - I was referring to the advertisments....
Did Maxjet not start out as something else then went through name change ? Both Eos and Maxjet have come a long way since the inital launch and I remember several negative comments re these airlines - eg - they wont last, no one want's to fly from STN etc etc look at them now both doing really well.
Remeber that EOS and Maxjet did not always have such a interactive website nor did they start off with lounge access or frequent flyer points - I admit they have got these very quickly but in the begining it was limited..
I subscribe to TTG and only last week in the business traveller mag there was a fantastic article on both these airlines and how they started and where they are going - great news but as above remember all the negatives in the begining.
I know they are not in same league no were near as FW are not a business class airline nor are they aiming for business pax its purely leisure...
I do wish they would make some major announcements soon tho I gotta say its very frustrating.
Lets hang on eh ?
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Originally Posted by wan2fly
Lets hang on eh ?
Has anyone asked if they have route licences even ??? Lets face it, FLYWHO won't get off the ground.
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Originally Posted by teachin
This will not happen. I have an "inside" friend who did some time with them in 04, she was bemused by the lack of urgency, the lack of a reservation system, they were literally using a bar chart for bookings.
They were more interested in the colour of the blankets on board than actually getting an aircraft sorted out or even an AOC.
Pie in the sky dreams, many relaunches and renamed about 5 times. A joke.
They were more interested in the colour of the blankets on board than actually getting an aircraft sorted out or even an AOC.
Pie in the sky dreams, many relaunches and renamed about 5 times. A joke.
Forgive me if I come across rude I dont mean too but what was the point in your post.
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Originally Posted by bacardi walla
Hang on for what exactly Has anyone asked if they have route licences even ??? Lets face it, FLYWHO won't get off the ground.
Has anyone asked if they have route licences even ??? Lets face it, FLYWHO won't get off the ground.
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Your being over protective and I'm not sure why. You must learn to respective the views of others that post here irrespective of whether you agree with them or not. Please remember that many that post here are senior and respected commercial aviation managers/pilots and therefore in the know (some anyway).
I hope it works out for you and the that FW makes it into the air. However I doubt it will and therefore you should be cautious with regards to safeguarding your employment future.
EM
Your being over protective and I'm not sure why. You must learn to respective the views of others that post here irrespective of whether you agree with them or not. Please remember that many that post here are senior and respected commercial aviation managers/pilots and therefore in the know (some anyway).
I hope it works out for you and the that FW makes it into the air. However I doubt it will and therefore you should be cautious with regards to safeguarding your employment future.
EM
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Originally Posted by wan2fly
mmmmmm - Did you get knocked back at an interview by FW or sumthin - you have been nothing but negative and very vocal - Is there a story behind your feelings for FW - I feel there is ....PLEASE share with us all !
You on the other hand are showing signs of someone who has applied, been promised something and are "hanging in there". I respect that if its the case, but if I were you, look for something else !
I find it laughable that the mods keep the FLYWHO thread running when it is clearly a waste of time. When they receive an AOC, a route licence, an aircraft even, then maybe open a thread which will be worthwhile looking at.
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Again !!
Why do you keep on posting on here if you feel the post should be closed???
You are one of the most frequent posters on the this site !!! - Strange that !.
I am currently employed by a major airline and fly out of LHR and I actually love my job - so i wont be looking for anything else unless FW takes off - If it does Ill be there if it doesnt ill stay where I am.
You are one of the most frequent posters on the this site !!! - Strange that !.
I am currently employed by a major airline and fly out of LHR and I actually love my job - so i wont be looking for anything else unless FW takes off - If it does Ill be there if it doesnt ill stay where I am.
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Originally Posted by wan2fly
Why do you keep on posting on here if you feel the post should be closed???
You are one of the most frequent posters on the this site !!! - Strange that !.
I am currently employed by a major airline and fly out of LHR and I actually love my job - so i wont be looking for anything else unless FW takes off - If it does Ill be there if it doesnt ill stay where I am.
You are one of the most frequent posters on the this site !!! - Strange that !.
I am currently employed by a major airline and fly out of LHR and I actually love my job - so i wont be looking for anything else unless FW takes off - If it does Ill be there if it doesnt ill stay where I am.
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Originally Posted by Epsilon minus
w2f
Your being over protective and I'm not sure why. You must learn to respective the views of others that post here irrespective of whether you agree with them or not. Please remember that many that post here are senior and respected commercial aviation managers/pilots and therefore in the know (some anyway).
I hope it works out for you and the that FW makes it into the air. However I doubt it will and therefore you should be cautious with regards to safeguarding your employment future.
EM
Your being over protective and I'm not sure why. You must learn to respective the views of others that post here irrespective of whether you agree with them or not. Please remember that many that post here are senior and respected commercial aviation managers/pilots and therefore in the know (some anyway).
I hope it works out for you and the that FW makes it into the air. However I doubt it will and therefore you should be cautious with regards to safeguarding your employment future.
EM
I wouldnt say im been over protective just that no one seems to want this airline to start or continue and most on here seem to damn the operation even before it starts - dont get me wrong I have been here from the start and I have been dissapointed with the set backs up to now... I feel that they deserve a chance.
I have been in travel industry for a long time and I feel i have a decent grasp on the industry - I do respect peoples views senior management or not.
As I have said before we dont get anywhere in life without taking a few risks and I feel sorry for those that "Play it safe" 100% of the time - I have not entered this lightly and you dont need to tell me to be cautious my friend I already know that...
Thanks for your feedback and I appologise if I have offended anyone it really is not my intention.
Thanks.