''Ryanair caught napping'' C4 TV 13 FEB 9pm
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If this changes anything at FR, one thing is for sure prices will go up, Ryanair is making catching a plane like catching a bus and I like that.
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http://www.channel4.com/news/microsi...ing/index.html
Ryanair was founded in 1985 by Irish businessman Tony Ryan. It is Europe's largest low-cost carrier, operating 270 low-fare routes to 21 European countries.
Two Dispatches undercover reporters spent five months secretly filming Ryanair's training programme and onboard flights as members of the cabin crew . The reporters reveal what really takes place behind the scenes: inadequate safety and security checks, dirty planes, exhausted cabin crew and pilots complaining about the number of hours they have to fly. Watch Ryanair staff speaking frankly about their experiences and attitudes towards passengers. It is sure to make you think carefully before booking that next "no frills" flight
Ryanair was founded in 1985 by Irish businessman Tony Ryan. It is Europe's largest low-cost carrier, operating 270 low-fare routes to 21 European countries.
Two Dispatches undercover reporters spent five months secretly filming Ryanair's training programme and onboard flights as members of the cabin crew . The reporters reveal what really takes place behind the scenes: inadequate safety and security checks, dirty planes, exhausted cabin crew and pilots complaining about the number of hours they have to fly. Watch Ryanair staff speaking frankly about their experiences and attitudes towards passengers. It is sure to make you think carefully before booking that next "no frills" flight
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LTNman said "It is sure to make you think carefully before booking that next "no frills" flight"
I don't think its appropriate to class all no frills or low cost airlines the same as Ryanair, just the same as you can't class flybe to be the same as easyJet.
Each airline is different, with similar operating procedures and rules.
What's so wrong with crew speaking to frankly about the job they do, there are times when we all have a moan about it - I'm no different.
I believe that judgement should be reserved until the program itself is broadcast, after all people in the industry will know what ‘normal’ practice is and what isn’t.
I don't think its appropriate to class all no frills or low cost airlines the same as Ryanair, just the same as you can't class flybe to be the same as easyJet.
Each airline is different, with similar operating procedures and rules.
What's so wrong with crew speaking to frankly about the job they do, there are times when we all have a moan about it - I'm no different.
I believe that judgement should be reserved until the program itself is broadcast, after all people in the industry will know what ‘normal’ practice is and what isn’t.
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Who ever these so called under cover reporters are they should be named and shamed. The company wont be hurt by this. Easyjet has a fly on the wall program every week that doesn’t exactly show them in the best light. It is the crew that will suffer. People these spies have made friends with in order to fit up. Some may loose their jobs. I hope these people are happy with their Machiavellian life style. I personally think they are scum.
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Why is the Ryanair CEO in court so often? why do so many people have bad stories about Ryanair?
I suspect that MOL is actually champing for this programme. There are, presumably, enough "facts" to make an injunction futile, but why would they want to do that anyway?
One hour of prime time TV, which I doubt will reveal much that we don't know already, or that is really that different in other airlines.
After five months, I'd be surprised if they DIDN'T find a dirty plane, an overworked staff, or some small breach of a safety code.
The fact is that this will get people talking about them again, and I'm sure that MOL is well versed in the words of Oscar Wilde. Every time passengers like to tell you how much they hate Ryanair, you know who they will book their next flight with.
I suspect that MOL is actually champing for this programme. There are, presumably, enough "facts" to make an injunction futile, but why would they want to do that anyway?
One hour of prime time TV, which I doubt will reveal much that we don't know already, or that is really that different in other airlines.
After five months, I'd be surprised if they DIDN'T find a dirty plane, an overworked staff, or some small breach of a safety code.
The fact is that this will get people talking about them again, and I'm sure that MOL is well versed in the words of Oscar Wilde. Every time passengers like to tell you how much they hate Ryanair, you know who they will book their next flight with.
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Just to add my two pence worth. Cant imagine in any airline there arent cabin crew out there that dont moan about long hours, multi sectors, crap money, night Tenerifes, rude punters and so on. As for the pilots lets face it we are working mightly longer/harder now than ever before. Last company about 7 years ago 500hrs tops, this company 900.
If your looking for an unhappy bunch to go after and get a few stories think there are some unhappier airlines than FR at the mo.
Everybody is going on strike or talking about it!!
If your looking for an unhappy bunch to go after and get a few stories think there are some unhappier airlines than FR at the mo.
Everybody is going on strike or talking about it!!
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5 months undercover. Events could not have been too bad, otherwise the undercover spies would have been too scared to fly and called in the authorities?
How much in addition to their Ryanair salaries were they paid, how many hours of undercover footage was recorded...etc?
I would not laugh at Ryanair because similar sensational journalism might actually be occurring undercover in your airline right now! Where there is a possible sensational story, there is money!
I would not gloat too much, it might be you being filmed undercover next?
How much in addition to their Ryanair salaries were they paid, how many hours of undercover footage was recorded...etc?
I would not laugh at Ryanair because similar sensational journalism might actually be occurring undercover in your airline right now! Where there is a possible sensational story, there is money!
I would not gloat too much, it might be you being filmed undercover next?
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Ryanair caught napping C4 13 Feb 8 pm
I feel that the real issue is that in our line of work there is a real danger that behaviour, appearance and conversations are taken out of context, further more possible "evidence" is gathered covertly and then broadcast to the public without expressed consent! I'm not sure that is right no matter how you look at it 
If Ryanair is concerned (which I think it is) again this could be taken out of context....they may in fact be concerned that information is divulged without consent and without a right to reply in full....not everything in life is clearcut and dealing with journalists is a very slippery buisness
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Note time of screeining is 8 Pm
If Ryanair is concerned (which I think it is) again this could be taken out of context....they may in fact be concerned that information is divulged without consent and without a right to reply in full....not everything in life is clearcut and dealing with journalists is a very slippery buisness
.Note time of screeining is 8 Pm
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I hope those in the film without their consent will not be shy to claim compensation for it and will probably have a helping hand from Ryanair.
Having been once the victim of TV journalists tricks, I can assure that this TV film will show people and a comment completely disconnected from the facts beeing shown.
For example, I was shown on the flight deck with a nasty comment on how the crew did a 30 minutes strike at a stopover, forgetting to tell the viewers I was not the crew who had done it.
They are just scums, those journos
Having been once the victim of TV journalists tricks, I can assure that this TV film will show people and a comment completely disconnected from the facts beeing shown.
For example, I was shown on the flight deck with a nasty comment on how the crew did a 30 minutes strike at a stopover, forgetting to tell the viewers I was not the crew who had done it.
They are just scums, those journos
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Although I agree with many of the sentiments expressed here, and before anyone jumps in -I too have been within the subject of one of the BBC things- yes they do hype and bend the truth and sometimes provide only half a picture, but if what was suggested in that programme was only half true (rather than half truthes): I would feel slightly uncomfortable. It may be a load of disgruntled staff whom the reporter singled out, but having worked for a 'sweat-box' firm and fallen asleep at the wheel whilst driving home once (only for a blink, that scared me) I was leaving for work at 6am to get into the office for 9am, then leaving at 6pm to get home at 8pm (and driving during the working day) 20 hours a week flying sounds good to me (await tirade of pilots explaining that flying is more pressurable than driving in the East-end of London, talk to a cabbie or bus driver -one of the highest heart attack/disease rates of any job, I understand). I think the docu' painted a not too unfair picture of what it is like to work for a company that cuts costs to the bone and gets more than enough from its' staff, I do not condone or applaud -just state that it exemplifies a perfect 'capitalist model'. Fritz Lang's Metropolis is a perfect example (the guy on the 'electric clock')
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This thread is running out of steam and I am going to close it. However, there is another thread on R&N and you can see it with this link.
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...211164&page=16
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...211164&page=16
