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My mate just told me that Manston is listed by NASA, although never used, as an emergency diversionary landing strip for the space shuttle program is he right?
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Manston/EU Jet
i was at a course this week at the university of westminster (thoroughly recommended) they had a great presentation on the failuere there. worth it if they do it again next year to go on the course just to hear it!
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Anybody have any clue as to what this flight is showing on the arrivals board today at MSE???
OAE800 CAIRO CAI 14:00 21:15 DELAYED
Have done a search but can not find who uses the three letter code OAE or what aircraft/who it's operating for?
Is it a passenger or cargo flight?
Any idea's?
OAE800 CAIRO CAI 14:00 21:15 DELAYED
Have done a search but can not find who uses the three letter code OAE or what aircraft/who it's operating for?
Is it a passenger or cargo flight?
Any idea's?
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Flights from Kent to States all set for take-off
by Trevor Sturgess
WEEKLY air links between Kent and Virginia, USA, will take off next spring in time for the 400th anniversary celebrations of the first settlement.
Aviation and council chiefs have confirmed the direct service between Norfolk International Airport and Kent International Airport, Manston.
http://www.kent-online.co.uk/news/de...ticle_id=27422
by Trevor Sturgess
WEEKLY air links between Kent and Virginia, USA, will take off next spring in time for the 400th anniversary celebrations of the first settlement.
Aviation and council chiefs have confirmed the direct service between Norfolk International Airport and Kent International Airport, Manston.
http://www.kent-online.co.uk/news/de...ticle_id=27422
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Taken from the Kent on-line website;
Now when I first heard of this venture earlier this year, I like many others thought it was all a bit ambitious and would never happen.
Don't get me wrong that could still be the case, but I hate to say it but Cosmos are a very serious, committed and long standing UK tour operator (one of the oldest in the UK I'm sure?). So if they have the connection with this service, makes it all sound a bit serious and well thought through? Though I don't understand what Norfolk has to offer to the UK bucket and spade brigade? A service from MSE to Orlando would seem an ambitious choice for any tour operator, but Norfolk? Not even a Gatwick - Norfolk charter so why on earth has MSE been chosen? Am I missing something???
Well we may see some charter activity from Cosmos to PMI, TFS, CFU etc at last??? Again there was talk of this when Planestation were in charge but nothing happened. Such a great little airport (or was when I last flew through on EUJ).
I'll believe it when the first plane takes off however.
Weekly charter flights will be operated by Bromley-based independent tour company Cosmos and its sister airline Monarch.
Don't get me wrong that could still be the case, but I hate to say it but Cosmos are a very serious, committed and long standing UK tour operator (one of the oldest in the UK I'm sure?). So if they have the connection with this service, makes it all sound a bit serious and well thought through? Though I don't understand what Norfolk has to offer to the UK bucket and spade brigade? A service from MSE to Orlando would seem an ambitious choice for any tour operator, but Norfolk? Not even a Gatwick - Norfolk charter so why on earth has MSE been chosen? Am I missing something???
Well we may see some charter activity from Cosmos to PMI, TFS, CFU etc at last??? Again there was talk of this when Planestation were in charge but nothing happened. Such a great little airport (or was when I last flew through on EUJ).
I'll believe it when the first plane takes off however.
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Seguro's website shows all PIK flights as operated by AEU. The schedule indicates a PIK based aircraft. There are also some gaps in the schedule that fit in with Kent Escapes programme at PIK. If you want more info there is details on the taxiway alpha forum
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Originally Posted by EGMH
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Probably a 757. One departed Sunday 9AM to Cairo with troops.
Probably a 757. One departed Sunday 9AM to Cairo with troops.
So these flights to Virginia are going ahead now thats brilliant news Hope we see MON A300 aircraft
Hope we do see Cosmos doing charter flights at Manston
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Originally Posted by tilewood
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Manston's a busy civilian airfield??!!
Manston's a busy civilian airfield??!!
HOT OFF THE PRESS !!!! The latest to fly from Manston....
Esperia
ps...
anyone heard of this company, their track record etc...?
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What aircraft will they use? And how do they intend to make routes like Strasbourg-Berlin work on a once weekly basis. I wonder if this airline will ever start flights
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Originally Posted by airhumberside
What aircraft will they use? And how do they intend to make routes like Strasbourg-Berlin work on a once weekly basis. I wonder if this airline will ever start flights
For christ sake give them a chance, they haven't even started operating yet !
Yes - another start up airline
Yes - another unknown
Yes - Manston is a relatively small regional aiport, with a small catchment area - no rail link, blah blah blah.
But.....
There are a hell of a lot of people out there that wants Manston to succeed and a hell of a lot of work going on to ensure it does.
So, please hold onto your derisery comments until at least they have tried and maybe failed.
Then you can have the satisfaction of saying "i told you so". and feel better for it.
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I'm not Manston bashing here at all. Indeed if you look back in this thread (and my posts on other forums) you will see that I want Manston to recover from EUJet and do well. And although the catchment is small, EU Jet and now Seguro have proven that there is demand and passenger flights from Manston are a viable proposition. As for them being a start up airline and unknown, every airline has got to start somewhere
However the proposed schedule of Esperia doesnt inspire confidence. Using my example of Strasbourg to Berlin. Potentially a market there with lots of political traffic. But what will politicians and business travellers want for them to use the flight. At least once daily flights on weekdays. A weekly flight on a Monday will be very little use to them
Also they plan to market MSE at London Kent. Fair enough but business passengers to London expect daily, and multiple times daily flights. And thats what you need to be compeitive against other airlines in the London market. Twice weekly flights to AMS might be fine for leisure passengers from Kent but will be extremely uncompetitive in the larger London-AMS market
They also plan Newcastle-Strasbourg. Please tell me what demand there will be on that route. Hardly any
Their website doen't inspire confidence either. A picture of some taxi-ing planes of other airlines. And can you spot the mistakes in these quotes from their website:
Unfortuantely the airline has some very wierd route and frequency choices and a website that clearly hasn't been thorougly checked for mistakes before going online. In my opinion they won't be a success. Hopefully for MSE that won't be the case
The Norfolk flights are very strange. MSE and Norfolk seem very random destinations to have charter flights between them but with Cosmos management talking about the flights to the press I guess there is a very realistic chance they will happen. Hopefully they will work. Its surprising though that Cosmos are doing Norfolk and not Palma. Perhaos an option for them in the future. Would almost certainly be a success
MSE has a bright future ahead of it with Cargo, the expanding Kent Escapes programme and now Norfolk. Perhaps in the future maybe Ryanair may go to Manston. And there is the now regular World Airways charters. However I just cant see Esperia being a part of it. And I won't feel better if my prediction becomes true.
However the proposed schedule of Esperia doesnt inspire confidence. Using my example of Strasbourg to Berlin. Potentially a market there with lots of political traffic. But what will politicians and business travellers want for them to use the flight. At least once daily flights on weekdays. A weekly flight on a Monday will be very little use to them
Also they plan to market MSE at London Kent. Fair enough but business passengers to London expect daily, and multiple times daily flights. And thats what you need to be compeitive against other airlines in the London market. Twice weekly flights to AMS might be fine for leisure passengers from Kent but will be extremely uncompetitive in the larger London-AMS market
They also plan Newcastle-Strasbourg. Please tell me what demand there will be on that route. Hardly any
Their website doen't inspire confidence either. A picture of some taxi-ing planes of other airlines. And can you spot the mistakes in these quotes from their website:
selling tickets to passengers tickets & services.
The company provides on this stage charter flights inside the European Union countries and direct flights to Greece.
The Norfolk flights are very strange. MSE and Norfolk seem very random destinations to have charter flights between them but with Cosmos management talking about the flights to the press I guess there is a very realistic chance they will happen. Hopefully they will work. Its surprising though that Cosmos are doing Norfolk and not Palma. Perhaos an option for them in the future. Would almost certainly be a success
MSE has a bright future ahead of it with Cargo, the expanding Kent Escapes programme and now Norfolk. Perhaps in the future maybe Ryanair may go to Manston. And there is the now regular World Airways charters. However I just cant see Esperia being a part of it. And I won't feel better if my prediction becomes true.
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Fly with Esperia Aer, low cost carrier, to London Kent International Airport, starting 1st December 2006, daily from Strasbourg, Dublin, Amsterdam, Berlin, Newcastle, Athens, Naples, Barcelona.
This is the crucial section of the site. Attempts to identify routes and service frequencies from the site are pointless. It has been poorly constructed and is not functioning properly.
Blazing Air is spot on, as ever. I have my suspicions about where he works, which lead me to listen carefully when he speaks.
Yes, stop all the old catchment area nonsense. Pontification is not required. The EUjet lessons are there for everyone in the know, and Infratil don't want another failure.
There's a lot more exciting stuff that is actively being developed.
However, the World flights end soon, and were part of a two year programme, so there's no more in the pipeline...or are there
This is the crucial section of the site. Attempts to identify routes and service frequencies from the site are pointless. It has been poorly constructed and is not functioning properly.
Blazing Air is spot on, as ever. I have my suspicions about where he works, which lead me to listen carefully when he speaks.
Yes, stop all the old catchment area nonsense. Pontification is not required. The EUjet lessons are there for everyone in the know, and Infratil don't want another failure.
There's a lot more exciting stuff that is actively being developed.
However, the World flights end soon, and were part of a two year programme, so there's no more in the pipeline...or are there
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It would be brilliant if Cosmos/Monarch add manston to there route map.
here is the website off Esperia Aer ADVERTISING DELETED What do you think off it?
James
here is the website off Esperia Aer ADVERTISING DELETED What do you think off it?
James
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I was wondering how they get away with the subsidies they are giving for the Norfolk flights. The local paper says the new service is receiving funding from the local Council, District Council, development agency, old uncle Tom Cobbley and all. It's all public money and its all a complete waste of public money, because it subsidises something that should be provided by free enterprise. By all means give them some tax-breaks, but why give them a cash hand-out? What's the constructive purpose of using taxpayers money to tempt passengers away from one airport to use an alternative one?