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NORFOLK ?
wow, what a strange choice, surely Florida once a week would bring in the punters, what has Virginia got going for it?
ps aeroground eat your hat, you said in May that this route wouldnt be happening!
lets give Manston a chance !!!!!!!!!!! radar and lighting wires have been given the go ahead to be replaced and the threasholds have been resurfaced,so with investment comes opetunities, Infratil are by no means a small fly by night operation
good luck boys ( got any vacancies)
ps aeroground eat your hat, you said in May that this route wouldnt be happening!
lets give Manston a chance !!!!!!!!!!! radar and lighting wires have been given the go ahead to be replaced and the threasholds have been resurfaced,so with investment comes opetunities, Infratil are by no means a small fly by night operation
good luck boys ( got any vacancies)
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Originally Posted by airhumberside
Next summers flghts may well be operated by a PIK based B737
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That's all very well, but will there be any staff left to see the aircraft in?
Manston is often notamed restricted operations, limited radar operations and no LARS have been available for ages.
They are already short of fully qualified ATCOs and more are leaving as we speak, after the debacle and empty promises of the previous regime, perhaps they've seen the light from down under...
Manston is often notamed restricted operations, limited radar operations and no LARS have been available for ages.
They are already short of fully qualified ATCOs and more are leaving as we speak, after the debacle and empty promises of the previous regime, perhaps they've seen the light from down under...
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Originally Posted by Jes
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Catflaps only exists to pour scorn on any proposal to develop Manston, and Thanet too. Get a life.
Catflaps only exists to pour scorn on any proposal to develop Manston, and Thanet too. Get a life.
Catflap sounds like you don't want these Norfolk flights to happen and also sounds like you don't support your local aiport 
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Bizaarly some of the Seguro flight only options show Astreaus flights but say Air Atlanta on the final booking page- perhaps we have the new owners of Astraeus ??? U heard it here first !
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Whether I WANT the Norfolk flights to go ahead is neither here nor there. It's nothing to do with me. If they're commercially viable they'll make a go of it. If they lose money they'll fail.
What is something to do with me is the use of public money to subsidise these flights. As a taxpayer, it's (in part) my money and nobody asked me whether they could use my taxes to subsidise these flights.
It's perfectly legitimate to raise this concern. EUjet was supported financially by the local Councils and it failed. All of the public money invested was lost.
We are left to wonder why Jes and Manston Airport aren't concerned about this too? I would venture to suggest that they're both employed up there and so they're only too happy to see public money poured down their throats.
What is something to do with me is the use of public money to subsidise these flights. As a taxpayer, it's (in part) my money and nobody asked me whether they could use my taxes to subsidise these flights.
It's perfectly legitimate to raise this concern. EUjet was supported financially by the local Councils and it failed. All of the public money invested was lost.
We are left to wonder why Jes and Manston Airport aren't concerned about this too? I would venture to suggest that they're both employed up there and so they're only too happy to see public money poured down their throats.
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As I see it, all the council is doing is investing money in tourism. Nothing wrong with that surely, millions of pounds of 'your' money are spent on that annually. Oh, and neither Jes or James are employed there, but I am
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Originally Posted by catflaps
Whether I WANT the Norfolk flights to go ahead is neither here nor there. It's nothing to do with me. If they're commercially viable they'll make a go of it. If they lose money they'll fail.
What is something to do with me is the use of public money to subsidise these flights. As a taxpayer, it's (in part) my money and nobody asked me whether they could use my taxes to subsidise these flights.
It's perfectly legitimate to raise this concern. EUjet was supported financially by the local Councils and it failed. All of the public money invested was lost.
We are left to wonder why Jes and Manston Airport aren't concerned about this too? I would venture to suggest that they're both employed up there and so they're only too happy to see public money poured down their throats.
What is something to do with me is the use of public money to subsidise these flights. As a taxpayer, it's (in part) my money and nobody asked me whether they could use my taxes to subsidise these flights.
It's perfectly legitimate to raise this concern. EUjet was supported financially by the local Councils and it failed. All of the public money invested was lost.
We are left to wonder why Jes and Manston Airport aren't concerned about this too? I would venture to suggest that they're both employed up there and so they're only too happy to see public money poured down their throats.
.No I don't work at manston would like too one day but for now im just a big Manston/KIA-M/EGMH/MSE Fan Where abouts do you work Twitcher ?
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Originally Posted by Manston Airport
Where abouts do you work Twitcher ?
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I'll just say I've been at Manston for around 18 years and I have a good idea of what is and isn't going on
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Originally Posted by Twitcher
I can't say exactly just in case you are a crazed stalker
I'll just say I've been at Manston for around 18 years and I have a good idea of what is and isn't going on
I'll just say I've been at Manston for around 18 years and I have a good idea of what is and isn't going on
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Originally Posted by Twitcher
I can't say exactly just in case you are a crazed stalker
I'll just say I've been at Manston for around 18 years and I have a good idea of what is and isn't going on
I'll just say I've been at Manston for around 18 years and I have a good idea of what is and isn't going on
ha ha ha
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"As I see it, all the council is doing is investing money in tourism. Nothing wrong with that surely"
I can see no good reason for a holiday resort to invest money in a venture that transports people away from that resort.
You don't work at Manston ? Methink you protesteth too much.
I can see no good reason for a holiday resort to invest money in a venture that transports people away from that resort.
You don't work at Manston ? Methink you protesteth too much.
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Originally Posted by catflaps
What is something to do with me is the use of public money to subsidise these flights. As a taxpayer, it's (in part) my money and nobody asked me whether they could use my taxes to subsidise these flights.
In the meantime, I am delighted that the council has had the guts to invest in Manston's future even after they lost out last time, and hope vey much these flights will succeed, although I must admit that, like you Catflaps, I personally wouldn't put any money on them succeeding.
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It works both ways catflaps.
I am quite sure that these flights will not be coming back to Manston with just uk pax.
They will bring much needed tourism to the area, which in turn creates jobs and i am sure that they will be trying just as hard at Norfolk to bring their local population on a vacation to the uk, investing their taxes in this venture.
I am quite sure that these flights will not be coming back to Manston with just uk pax.
They will bring much needed tourism to the area, which in turn creates jobs and i am sure that they will be trying just as hard at Norfolk to bring their local population on a vacation to the uk, investing their taxes in this venture.
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Let's ignore catflaps, chaps. He has the smell of MAG about him, and is using this aviation forum to undermine aviation.
As BA says, the Norfolk flights will bring tourists into the area. The start-up costs are split 50/50 USA/UK. I spoke to a TDC councillor last night, who told me that TDC is putting in £10,000, and this was not a council decision, but was made by a council officer.
There is a small group of whingers in Thanet, including, of course, MAG, who drone on ad nauseam, but never put themselves before the electorate. They don't represent anyone but themselves.
As BA says, the Norfolk flights will bring tourists into the area. The start-up costs are split 50/50 USA/UK. I spoke to a TDC councillor last night, who told me that TDC is putting in £10,000, and this was not a council decision, but was made by a council officer.
There is a small group of whingers in Thanet, including, of course, MAG, who drone on ad nauseam, but never put themselves before the electorate. They don't represent anyone but themselves.
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A route that would guarantee high load factors is to Szczecin in Poland. It's only served by Ryanair from Stansted at the moment, and the aircraft are always full. The airport is at Goleniow(ex-military by the look of it), about 25 miles from the city, and could easily handle extra traffic, the only other scheds being internal Polish flights, and the catchment area is huge in this part of Poland, plus as it's close to the German border, there's extra potential there.
NB until Ryanair started in March this year, the closest airport to Szczecin was Berlin.(about 120 - 150 miles away)
NB until Ryanair started in March this year, the closest airport to Szczecin was Berlin.(about 120 - 150 miles away)
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Strikes me that it's the same old airheads talking the same old hot air as when EUjet were in the saddle. Is it true that two of Planestation's former managers have been involved in setting up the Norfolk thing?