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In fairness to BEagle they don't really advertise the Heathrow Connect as it undermines the massive expense that is the ever so slightly faster Express. On the same lines and with new trains as well.
A much better bet I should say.
A much better bet I should say.
Too mean to buy a long personal title
To flesh out my earlier reply, sorted by overall journey time for BEagle:-
Heathrow Express
Heathrow 123 to Paddington, 15 minute journey, once every 15 minutes, ie 22.5 minute average time platform-to-platform
10 minute change to Bakerloo Line platform
18 minute Tube to Chancery Lane.
Overall average journey time: 50.5 minutes
Day return fare: £29.00
Tube return: £1.50 x 2
Total cost: £32.00
Tube
Heathrow 123 to Holborn, 51 minute journey, once every 5 minutes, ie 53.5 minute average journey time platform-to-platform
10 minute walk to Chancery Lane
Overall average journey time: 61 minutes
Tube return: £3.50 x 2
Total cost: £7.00
Heathrow Connect + Tube
Heathrow 123 to Paddington: 28 minute journey, once every 30 minutes (Mon-Sat), ie 43 minute average time platform-to-platform
10 minute change to Bakerloo Line platform
18 minute Tube to Chancery Lane.
Overall average journey time: 71 minutes
Day return fare: £11.90
Tube return: £1.50 x 2
Total cost: £14.90
Heathrow Express
Heathrow 123 to Paddington, 15 minute journey, once every 15 minutes, ie 22.5 minute average time platform-to-platform
10 minute change to Bakerloo Line platform
18 minute Tube to Chancery Lane.
Overall average journey time: 50.5 minutes
Day return fare: £29.00
Tube return: £1.50 x 2
Total cost: £32.00
Tube
Heathrow 123 to Holborn, 51 minute journey, once every 5 minutes, ie 53.5 minute average journey time platform-to-platform
10 minute walk to Chancery Lane
Overall average journey time: 61 minutes
Tube return: £3.50 x 2
Total cost: £7.00
Heathrow Connect + Tube
Heathrow 123 to Paddington: 28 minute journey, once every 30 minutes (Mon-Sat), ie 43 minute average time platform-to-platform
10 minute change to Bakerloo Line platform
18 minute Tube to Chancery Lane.
Overall average journey time: 71 minutes
Day return fare: £11.90
Tube return: £1.50 x 2
Total cost: £14.90
Paxing All Over The World
Baggage Wrapping? I have seen at LGW the facility to have your suitace wrapped in heavy duty cling film. I think that I have seen this at T1 but I am trying ot locate it for T3.
Having carefully examined the maps on the BAA but they do not list it. I have been told that the service is sometimes available at the left luggage places but I cannot find them listed for T3 either. I do not want to have to go to T1 first, before checking in at T3, so any help would be appreciated.
Reason for needing the service? I am travelling to South Africa and JNB now has the 'crown' for bag pilfering.
Having carefully examined the maps on the BAA but they do not list it. I have been told that the service is sometimes available at the left luggage places but I cannot find them listed for T3 either. I do not want to have to go to T1 first, before checking in at T3, so any help would be appreciated.
Reason for needing the service? I am travelling to South Africa and JNB now has the 'crown' for bag pilfering.
Está servira para distraerle.
Paxboy. old beano,
One shall be at T 3 tomorrow en route to the sand pit and thence to tropical islands in the balmy Indian. The plastic baggage wrapping facility is meant to be at the left luggage desk which usually (Ts 1&4) is on the arrival floor. This means that one disembarks at Arrivals, wraps bags (£5.0 each) and thence to departures, by lift one hopes.
The baggage wrap facility is not listed on the BAA maps but Memsahib telephoned T3 Left Luggage yesterday to be told that all was in order for the impended wrapping of the eight Cheetah bags that will require such tender care.
It is a very useful thing to do especially routing through FAJS and then onwards within SA as, one is led to believe from another thread, will be the case in your case! (HO!HO!)
Safe journey. If it does not work out tomorrow, will try to remember to post that fact and any subsequent relevant details later this week.
Toodle Pip.
cc.
Paxing All Over The World
I say, CC old boy, that really is absolutely ripping of you. And I'm glad that you also plan to ensure that you case is not ripped. Hah, Hah! 
By Jingo, it's lucky that we still have some decent coves left in the country, otherwise, we would all be as bad as the Daily Mail.
Pip-Pip.
By Jingo, it's lucky that we still have some decent coves left in the country, otherwise, we would all be as bad as the Daily Mail.
Pip-Pip.
Está servira para distraerle.
Methinks you have a slightly incorrect idea here as to what makes a cheetah tick. The Daily Mail is an excrescence of a tabloid, beloved in general, one hastens to say here, of overweight, overmoneyed and undereducated Poms. The sort who subject their double layered bisexual breast forms to the ravages of the Spanish sun whilst demanding service from attendant staff in a vernacular which they call English.
As a colonial, one finds that The Spectator and Africa Geographic will suffice for most edificatory needs. Mind you, from time to time, Magnum magazine has proved interesting, especially when planning another foray into the bush to pot yet another trophy head for the dining room wall.
Bung Ho!
Last edited by cavortingcheetah; 19th Mar 2007 at 06:50.
Está servira para distraerle.
Hot off the press and from the hub itself for Paxboy.
Terminal 3. LHR. There is, as discussed, a baggage wrap facility at left luggage at the far end of Arrivals.
There is also one in the Departure section, just down from the Gulf Air information counter on the left hand side, somewhere around Zone D.
As you may be aware, Arrivals and Departures at T3 are all on the same level, so it's not very difficult to walk from one end of the building around to the other.
Safe journey.
Totsiens.
cc.
Paxing All Over The World
Ahhh, thanks for that CC and jolly good show.
One will use the Departures side as we are starting the journey there - it was someone else who is transitting.
One had thought that one had made it clear that one thinks that the daily mail [sound of spitton being used] is worse than the Sun. Mainly because the Sun makes no secret as to what it is and the DM pretends that it is nice.
Baie dankie vir u informasie en veilige reis.
One will use the Departures side as we are starting the journey there - it was someone else who is transitting.One had thought that one had made it clear that one thinks that the daily mail [sound of spitton being used] is worse than the Sun. Mainly because the Sun makes no secret as to what it is and the DM pretends that it is nice.
Baie dankie vir u informasie en veilige reis.
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LHR......Where are they going to put them all?
As Terminal 5 nears completion and BA get the removers in, then the big shuffle will commence. Does anyone know which airlines will relocate and how much T3/T4 space will become available??
Apart from the runway slot issue, will there be sufficient gate facilities to enable a LHR free for all bonanza?
T5 is a massive expansion I agree, but is it really big enough to cope with all the potential traffic?
With talk of T6 on the horizonal, maybe T5 should have been made twice the size!
All in all it looks like the building site will continue for years to come and with all the potentially extra passengers, I guess we can all look forward to many more years of M25 grid lock.
Again our government has failed to plan for the future where instead it could have looked years ago at he bigger picture. We need a brand new airport starting with a blank page with all the space in the world to expand. LHR under the BAA will only ever be a tangled mess constrained by an insufficient road network.
Its all very well having an open sky but its no good with supplying it with closed roads!
Coop & gridlock Bear
Apart from the runway slot issue, will there be sufficient gate facilities to enable a LHR free for all bonanza?
T5 is a massive expansion I agree, but is it really big enough to cope with all the potential traffic?
With talk of T6 on the horizonal, maybe T5 should have been made twice the size!
All in all it looks like the building site will continue for years to come and with all the potentially extra passengers, I guess we can all look forward to many more years of M25 grid lock.
Again our government has failed to plan for the future where instead it could have looked years ago at he bigger picture. We need a brand new airport starting with a blank page with all the space in the world to expand. LHR under the BAA will only ever be a tangled mess constrained by an insufficient road network.
Its all very well having an open sky but its no good with supplying it with closed roads!
Coop & gridlock Bear
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From what i understand from the many bba staff and airport paper the plan is as follows:
T1 - Star Alliance Carriers + Airlines handled by them i.e. BD handling CY
T2 - Torn Down
T3 - BA (Spanish and OZ routes) One World. Plus a sub terminal for VS
T4 - Skyteam plus anyone that doesn't fall into the above.
T5 - BA
*Future plans:
If given premission T1 and Queens will also be torn down and Heathrow East built. Heathrow East will be come the new home of BMI and Star Alliance.
T1 - Star Alliance Carriers + Airlines handled by them i.e. BD handling CY
T2 - Torn Down
T3 - BA (Spanish and OZ routes) One World. Plus a sub terminal for VS
T4 - Skyteam plus anyone that doesn't fall into the above.
T5 - BA
*Future plans:
If given premission T1 and Queens will also be torn down and Heathrow East built. Heathrow East will be come the new home of BMI and Star Alliance.
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QUOTE "From what i understand from the many bba staff and airport paper the plan is as follows:
T1 - Star Alliance Carriers + Airlines handled by them i.e. BD handling CY
T2 - Torn Down
T3 - BA (Spanish and OZ routes) One World. Plus a sub terminal for VS
T4 - Skyteam plus anyone that doesn't fall into the above.
T5 - BA
*Future plans:
If given premission T1 and Queens will also be torn down and Heathrow East built. Heathrow East will be come the new home of BMI and Star Alliance." END QUOTE
A few adjustments. VS are likely to occupy the whole of Zone B as well as zone A, and are currently the proposed first users of a drop off vehicle ramp being built to the south of the South Wing building - but they are not having a "Sub-temrinal" built. But will become T3's major airline.
T2 will close as T5 opens. And as soon a planning permission is granted (BAA are very sure they will get it) the Queens building and T2 will be demolished and the first phase of Heathrow East built - Star Alliance will move in in due course, then T1 will be demolished and the second half of Heathrow East will be built. The completed Heatrow East will have a footprint as big as T5 and will mirror the T5 experience. Piers in T3 and East will mostly run north/south as they do at T5. Pier 6 at T3 has already been rebuilt and designed for A380 ops and pier 7 will be demolished, and rebuilt in a new allignment.
H East is scheduled for completion by 2012. When complete it is rumours that VS will move into the new facilities in East.
T1 - Star Alliance Carriers + Airlines handled by them i.e. BD handling CY
T2 - Torn Down
T3 - BA (Spanish and OZ routes) One World. Plus a sub terminal for VS
T4 - Skyteam plus anyone that doesn't fall into the above.
T5 - BA
*Future plans:
If given premission T1 and Queens will also be torn down and Heathrow East built. Heathrow East will be come the new home of BMI and Star Alliance." END QUOTE
A few adjustments. VS are likely to occupy the whole of Zone B as well as zone A, and are currently the proposed first users of a drop off vehicle ramp being built to the south of the South Wing building - but they are not having a "Sub-temrinal" built. But will become T3's major airline.
T2 will close as T5 opens. And as soon a planning permission is granted (BAA are very sure they will get it) the Queens building and T2 will be demolished and the first phase of Heathrow East built - Star Alliance will move in in due course, then T1 will be demolished and the second half of Heathrow East will be built. The completed Heatrow East will have a footprint as big as T5 and will mirror the T5 experience. Piers in T3 and East will mostly run north/south as they do at T5. Pier 6 at T3 has already been rebuilt and designed for A380 ops and pier 7 will be demolished, and rebuilt in a new allignment.
H East is scheduled for completion by 2012. When complete it is rumours that VS will move into the new facilities in East.
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BA Security problems today
Having spent a forgetable few hours stuck in lhr tonight due to 'security problems' can anyine shed any light on this? I overheard someone saying BAA would not allow any BA crew through security but not why?
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Regarding an earlier post, you do not need me to tell you that the Heathrow Express epitomises Rip Off Britain, works out about £1 per minute standard class.
Working on the same lines my Eva air return flight to BKK in cattle should cost about £1600 inc taxes.
also Piccadily line return journey 2x 60 = £120 rtn KX-LHR.
If I am in a desperate rush to get from LHR to Kings Cross/St Pancras the express can save me 20 minutes on the Piccadily line time.
One thing about the tube, it is an accident waiting to happen, pax going down the steep crowded escalators with large suitcases and rucksacks etc.
Yes, I have done it when Arsenal are playing as well.
Finally, ITV have just interviewd a gent at LHR T5 and he says the terminal will open 27th March next year for ops and September this year for training.
I got the impression that BA were moving lock stock and barrel to T5 but it seems like the Spain and Oz are still T3
Will BR (Eva) be using T4 from next September?
Working on the same lines my Eva air return flight to BKK in cattle should cost about £1600 inc taxes.
also Piccadily line return journey 2x 60 = £120 rtn KX-LHR.If I am in a desperate rush to get from LHR to Kings Cross/St Pancras the express can save me 20 minutes on the Piccadily line time.
One thing about the tube, it is an accident waiting to happen, pax going down the steep crowded escalators with large suitcases and rucksacks etc.
Yes, I have done it when Arsenal are playing as well.
Finally, ITV have just interviewd a gent at LHR T5 and he says the terminal will open 27th March next year for ops and September this year for training.
I got the impression that BA were moving lock stock and barrel to T5 but it seems like the Spain and Oz are still T3
Will BR (Eva) be using T4 from next September?
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Finally, ITV have just interviewd a gent at LHR T5 and he says the terminal will open 27th March next year for ops and September this year for training.
The new £4.3bn terminal at Heathrow Airport will be ready in exactly one year, the scheme's planners have said.
Terminal 5 will undergo six months of tests involving 16,000 volunteers before it opens on 27 March 2008. The tests will check facilities from car parking to flight journeys at the airport, the UK's biggest......
The passengers arriving from the Far East will be the first of about 40,000 to go through the terminal on its first day of operation......
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DO you work in T3?
There is construction work behind the SOuth Wing, and it does depend on your definition of "sub-terminal" but Zones A and B will in no way be separated from the rest of the check-in area, but a new ramp/stairs is being built from Zone A/B up to the departures concourse. Virgin's pax will still use the main departure lounge and no airline "owns" or can brand any of the gates. Therefore VS will not be able to have their aircraft specially allocated to gates near the Clubhouse for example.
DO you work in T3?
There is construction work behind the SOuth Wing, and it does depend on your definition of "sub-terminal" but Zones A and B will in no way be separated from the rest of the check-in area, but a new ramp/stairs is being built from Zone A/B up to the departures concourse. Virgin's pax will still use the main departure lounge and no airline "owns" or can brand any of the gates. Therefore VS will not be able to have their aircraft specially allocated to gates near the Clubhouse for example.