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Old 23rd Sep 2011, 10:06
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Heathrow losing out

This report is biased and certianly not based on fact. Heathrow used to have Manilla, Jakarta, Seoul and even KL all flown by BA. The fact that our incumbent airline pulled these routes is the problem and used the slots for other more profitable city pairs. LGW has plenty of capacity and can afford to take on these extra connections keeping London and the UK's economy competitive. This is just BAA bias. Get a 2nd runway at Gatwick and you will see London and the UK continue to flourish, we dont need to be tied to BAA and LHR for that to happen.
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Old 23rd Sep 2011, 10:23
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How does a second runway at Gatwick benefit the rest of the UK ??
Just more London-centric bias..
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Old 23rd Sep 2011, 12:46
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I've seen a job advertised with a "prestigious airline" opening a new lounge in T4. I get the impression it shall be their own lounge, as opposed to their Alliance/handler.
Could Quite possibly be Delta Airlines, they will have 28 flights a day out of T4 by next summer.
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Old 23rd Sep 2011, 14:29
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lounge at T4

Qatar Airways lounge...... will be opening next summer which is 2012...
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Old 23rd Sep 2011, 15:07
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I understand your arguement, however it can equally be applied to the LHR centric report that BAA have just published which I was challenging initially.
I would go further and a second runway at BHX, it is on the rail\road and possibly high speed rail network and a prime candidate for development.
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Old 23rd Sep 2011, 15:53
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Jakarta was served by BA from LHR but was dropped in the mid 90s.

Manila was served by BA from LHR but was also dropped in the mid 90s.

Jakarta was served by Garuda Indonesian from LGW but was dropped in 2003.

Manila was served by Philipine Airlines origionally from LGW but was moved to LHR in 1995, this was also dropped in 1998.

These routes may have been losing money at the time but it is a completely differrent situation now as these two routes are proving popular with the likes of AF, EK, KL, LH, etc and are considered as merging markets so how can you relate to them being loss making routes today!

Times change!

I would not be surprised if we hear from Garuda in the next 6 months regarding a return to the Jakarta to London route once they recieve all of there new Boeing 777Ws thus releasing some of their A333s for a return to a UK service most probably flying into LGW.

Also Philipine Airlines have stated they would like to return to Europe once they have spare capacity with the arrival on their own Boeing 777ws. I also envisage them going into LGW.

It will be BA that will be losing out and of course LHR and a return to Seoul would be very difficult seeing there is already two well established carriers on the LHR to Seoul route with the likes of Korean Air and Asiana.

With Malaysian joining OneWorld and already serving LHR twice daily from Kuala Lumper I do not see any quick return for BA to KL.

BA should have been quicker of the mark and announced services two some of these destinations long ago and made more use of LGW which in my view especially with the North Terminal is an excellent airport for BA to expand from even though I live closer to LHR I do have a soft spot for LGW.
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Old 23rd Sep 2011, 16:34
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Birmingham's own master plan up to 2030 shows no second runway. It would involve moving the A45 road again and flatting current facilities in Elmdon. You would start to get very close to existing housing as well.

The only new runway might be Gatwick, elsewhere is very doubtful in UK.
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Old 23rd Sep 2011, 19:01
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dont think Philipine airlines are allowed into Europe/usa due safety category at present. Think another issue with LHR/LGW is handling facilities, how often are we stuck with widebodies i.e 773 on stands with one airbridge ?
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Old 27th Sep 2011, 12:23
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Looking at Terminal 5 on GoogleEarth it strikes me how 'messy' the aircraft stand layout looks. Considering the amount of wide-bodies BA has it's surprising that are just a handful of stands with double airbridges attached. Would love to know what the thinking behind that was. At least there attaching 3 bridges for the A380 stands.
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Old 4th Oct 2011, 22:33
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Cant find the BA or Glasgow threads so will post in here

Does anybody know when specifically BA will be using 767s on the LHR/GLA route?

Wouldnt mind flying up and back on the 767 !!
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Old 4th Oct 2011, 22:53
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ib26uk - if you try to make a booking on BA's website, you can click on the flight number of individual flights - it'll show you what type of aircraft is planned for use
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Old 5th Oct 2011, 07:39
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Just wondering, what are the smallest aircrafts BA have based at Heathrow,

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Old 5th Oct 2011, 07:58
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NorthernCounties

A319
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Old 5th Oct 2011, 08:00
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Thanks GrahamK!
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Old 5th Oct 2011, 09:24
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I used to fly with BA, LHR- CGK via KUL.The first leg was always quiet full whereas KUL-CGK would sometimes have more crew than pax. There does seem to be very low demand even now for a London – Jakarta service.

A way round it would be to go via the Middle East. Everytime I fly Emirates the DXB-CGK flight is rammed with migrant Indonesian workers returning home.

The Garuda flight was LGW-BKK-DPS and was often very full, but sometimes quiet empty. The nail in the coffin was the Bali bombing which for a couple of years reduced Bali to a ghost island. The last time I flew with them two of us had the upper deck to ourselves both out and back.

Edit to add, the upper deck was P/E. £125 extra each way, sometimes with, it seemed, unlimited champagne.
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Old 5th Oct 2011, 12:32
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....when I flew to Bali with Garuda from LGW in 1995, the routing was LGW-AUH-BKK-CGK(aircraft change)-DPS, quite a marathon.
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Old 10th Oct 2011, 10:35
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Blue1 HEL-LHR and Arik Air ABV-LHR will be suspended eff 30 Oct.

BA will increase LHR-JNB from 14 weekly to 17 weekly from 26th March.
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Old 10th Oct 2011, 15:23
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Any word on who is picking up the slots? Assume Blue1's slots will go to SAS.
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Old 12th Oct 2011, 10:31
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BA will add additional frequencies as follows:

LHR-GLA from 52 times a week to 60 times weekly from 30th October and further increase to 67 times weekly from 9th January.
B763 will be used on BA1472 (first flight of the day) every Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday.

From 25th March:
LHR-JFK increases to 8 times daily (B744 operates on all flights)
LHR-MIA increases to 3 times daily (2 times B744 and the new flight with B772)
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Old 12th Oct 2011, 10:42
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BAA - BA hypocrisy

Recent reports by BAA suggest that London is losing out because there is not enough capacity at LHR for slots to serve emerging markets and is impacting on our future economic growth. Now BA has increased flights to GLA, JFK and MIA. There are already numerous flights to all these destinationss, could these extra slots not have been used to various Chinese cities, Jakarta, KL, Seoul, Manila etc.? This is where the growth is and this would nulify the need for these complaints that we just do not have the connections.
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