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I've seen press reports that an announcement might be out on Jul 7th.
With Brexit, I reckon LHR is the favourite now. Certainly believe the UK will need more long-haul connections for trade AND now short-haul with EU.
With Brexit, I reckon LHR is the favourite now. Certainly believe the UK will need more long-haul connections for trade AND now short-haul with EU.
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The Telegraph reported a few days ago:
So more slots to play with.
I though LHR was so full we couldn't add flights ot impoortant export destinations in China & India - but we can go to Innsbruck???
British Airways abandons flights to Egypt’s Sharm el-Sheikh resort 'indefinitely' amid terror fears
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Part of me wants to cry because of the inability of the wheels of government to knock some heads together and get this done for a sensible price
Well we do at least agree on that point !
He's backed up by the guy who runs the biggest airline user of Heathrow who has a vested interest in not opening the place up to competition ? I'm shocked....
But all those who knock BA are in effect criticising the only show in town re " Hub Capacity".
Your reference to investment is factually correct, none of us at this end of the country are suggesting vast subsidies, but by the same token you would have to be blind not to see the economic benefits of investing in by way of example, transport which at this end of the country is in places, on its knees !
Would £1bn each to the West country, midlands, Liverpool, Leeds , Hull and Newcastle and of course Manchester really break the bank when compared to the unending gravy train of spend in the South East ?
One of the most telling comments on referendum night was by the BBC luvvie consigned to cover the Newcastle result ...
“this area has benefited from £90m of investment over 7 years so is expected to be a remain“
Oh my goodness £90m, yep £90m, if ever there was a case of a BBC reporter not having a clue about the value of money….
So essentially the total sum invested from Central Government over 7 years buys "wait for it" 3 mile of dual carriageway !
SPECTACULAR !
Part of me wants to cry because of the inability of the wheels of government to knock some heads together and get this done for a sensible price
Well we do at least agree on that point !
He's backed up by the guy who runs the biggest airline user of Heathrow who has a vested interest in not opening the place up to competition ? I'm shocked....
But all those who knock BA are in effect criticising the only show in town re " Hub Capacity".
Your reference to investment is factually correct, none of us at this end of the country are suggesting vast subsidies, but by the same token you would have to be blind not to see the economic benefits of investing in by way of example, transport which at this end of the country is in places, on its knees !
Would £1bn each to the West country, midlands, Liverpool, Leeds , Hull and Newcastle and of course Manchester really break the bank when compared to the unending gravy train of spend in the South East ?
One of the most telling comments on referendum night was by the BBC luvvie consigned to cover the Newcastle result ...
“this area has benefited from £90m of investment over 7 years so is expected to be a remain“
Oh my goodness £90m, yep £90m, if ever there was a case of a BBC reporter not having a clue about the value of money….
So essentially the total sum invested from Central Government over 7 years buys "wait for it" 3 mile of dual carriageway !
SPECTACULAR !
Last edited by Bagso; 25th Jun 2016 at 10:39.
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Have a chat, come out shut the entry gate go in have a chat , come out search vehicle open exit gate, go in for a longer chat etc etc etc :-( and all this faffing around loses airlines money as due to the length of time it takes to get through to airside a lot off cargo Is offloaded for being
Late to aircraft side :-(
radio this morning reckons half the top Civil Service is being redeployed to handle Euro negotiations. the economy, trade deals etc etc
Heathrow goes to bottom of pile
Heathrow goes to bottom of pile
Everything but the most basic functions of govt is going to be put on hold for the next few years while Brexit is sorted out.
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papers reckon N Powerhouse, HS2, LHR R3 etc will all go - they are "Cameron/Osborn" schemes, they cost a lot of cash, there is a lot of opposition within the Tory Party (who will be voting on the next Leader shortly) and the cash will be needed to fill some of the mad pledges made during the OUT campaign
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Northern Powerhouse ?
Investment?
My God how impressionable people are !
It's like the BBC reporter on referendum night suggesting it will be a remain because of massive investment in the N East. ...
"£90m over 7 years" WOW.....
The general populus must have taken a collective deep sigh.
For balance that buys you about 2 mile of dual carriageway, massive investment indeed !!!!
So lets put this firmly to bed.
Here is a list of the Central Government investment in the NP below...
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Yup one big fat zero !
HS2, RW3 should NOT be mentioned in same breath !
... lots of rhetoric and yes much welcome cajoling of business behind the seems but let's get the record straight on this one the investment from Central Government was crumbs.....
Some fiddling of cash for smart motorways, they being the ones so bloody smart we don't actually widen them...oh and a divert of £200m from the Highways Agency for a "consultation document " on a Sheffield -Manchester tunnel. No actual JCBs
That documentation is now in Sir Humphreys bottom draw I suspect!
Yes the initiatives were great, yes The North was mentioned in trade missions with the PM and Osborne holding the beacon, yes Manchester is now firmly on the map in China and the whole NorthernPowerhouse project has enough traction to be used as wipping stick if the next ministers don't start delivering up here...
but don't get carried away with any gravytrain of spend like the South East :
The Channel Tunnel
Elizabethan Tunnel
Olympic Village
Thameslink
BankUndergnd
This little Lot cost £80 billion YES that's billion NOT million!
Investment in infastructure up North compared to the SE is about 1%.
....maybe the peasants were misguided but THAT is partly the reason why both parties are now in the mire!
Investment?
My God how impressionable people are !
It's like the BBC reporter on referendum night suggesting it will be a remain because of massive investment in the N East. ...
"£90m over 7 years" WOW.....
The general populus must have taken a collective deep sigh.
For balance that buys you about 2 mile of dual carriageway, massive investment indeed !!!!
So lets put this firmly to bed.
Here is a list of the Central Government investment in the NP below...
...
...
...
...
...
Yup one big fat zero !
HS2, RW3 should NOT be mentioned in same breath !
... lots of rhetoric and yes much welcome cajoling of business behind the seems but let's get the record straight on this one the investment from Central Government was crumbs.....
Some fiddling of cash for smart motorways, they being the ones so bloody smart we don't actually widen them...oh and a divert of £200m from the Highways Agency for a "consultation document " on a Sheffield -Manchester tunnel. No actual JCBs
That documentation is now in Sir Humphreys bottom draw I suspect!
Yes the initiatives were great, yes The North was mentioned in trade missions with the PM and Osborne holding the beacon, yes Manchester is now firmly on the map in China and the whole NorthernPowerhouse project has enough traction to be used as wipping stick if the next ministers don't start delivering up here...
but don't get carried away with any gravytrain of spend like the South East :
The Channel Tunnel
Elizabethan Tunnel
Olympic Village
Thameslink
BankUndergnd
This little Lot cost £80 billion YES that's billion NOT million!
Investment in infastructure up North compared to the SE is about 1%.
....maybe the peasants were misguided but THAT is partly the reason why both parties are now in the mire!
Last edited by Bagso; 26th Jun 2016 at 14:11.
Oh Bagso, you're being so unfair
the A1(M) has now been extended to Leeming - that's almost up to Teesside and only another 50 miles north to Newcastle.
And then there are the plans to upgrade a few more miles of the A1 North of Newcastle and south of the border to dual carriageway
(yes - that's upgrade TO dual carriageway).
We've also we've had a new franchisee appointed whose going to improve our local railways.
I know we aren't getting the new trains capable of doing 100mph for the Newcastle-Carlisle line (we're getting the re-furbished trains which are "as good as new"), but that would just be a waste, cos the lines still restricted to 60mph. Still, that's faster than you can do on the largely single carraigeway A69 (I find the alternative road to Carlisle quicker - you know, the one built by the Romans... )
Now, where's that "Yes, I am taking the p*ss" Emoticon? (there may be Southerner's reading )
the A1(M) has now been extended to Leeming - that's almost up to Teesside and only another 50 miles north to Newcastle.
And then there are the plans to upgrade a few more miles of the A1 North of Newcastle and south of the border to dual carriageway
(yes - that's upgrade TO dual carriageway).
We've also we've had a new franchisee appointed whose going to improve our local railways.
I know we aren't getting the new trains capable of doing 100mph for the Newcastle-Carlisle line (we're getting the re-furbished trains which are "as good as new"), but that would just be a waste, cos the lines still restricted to 60mph. Still, that's faster than you can do on the largely single carraigeway A69 (I find the alternative road to Carlisle quicker - you know, the one built by the Romans... )
Now, where's that "Yes, I am taking the p*ss" Emoticon? (there may be Southerner's reading )