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As far as me still being "stuck" with BACX is concerned, even I appreciate (to an extent!!) it's actually the other way round! However, it seems to me, somebody has to stay, as I'm not at all convinced the UK training establishments can keep up with BACX's voracious appetite for new pilots!
Whatever the New Year brings for my "mates" and myself, I genuinely hope it brings good news for everybody currently "toughing it out" at BACX!
As far as me still being "stuck" with BACX is concerned, even I appreciate (to an extent!!) it's actually the other way round! However, it seems to me, somebody has to stay, as I'm not at all convinced the UK training establishments can keep up with BACX's voracious appetite for new pilots!
Whatever the New Year brings for my "mates" and myself, I genuinely hope it brings good news for everybody currently "toughing it out" at BACX!
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I did not mean to imply that the staff were sitting on their hands the remark was directed at BA Waterside their ultimate bosses. It is a subject to ponder if BACX and the LGW revamp in January may have an associated parts. Clearly the big issue for much of BA is still high staff costs.
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Hello to All
Having read this thread all the way through I wish to clarify a few points,
1. I am under the impression that all the ground staff at MAN are mainline(BAR) staff and not BACX with the exception of Engineering.
2. I am also under the impression that all ground staff at GLA and BHX are supplied by Mainline(BAR).
It is also my belief that one of the other major contributary factors to the problems within BACX is charges that levied by Mainline for services rendered. The fares are controlled by mainline and as someone previously stated the whole outfit has not been allowed to develop within the industry.
And as for cost cutting, well I hear on the grapevine that next week the whole of the "Leadership Team" (LT) and most the GM's and SM's are off to a rather expensive hotel in the country to discuss the next rebranding of the company, I wonder how much that will cost, why should the company pay for what will ultimately be a very expensive game of golf(please forgive my cynisism).
Let BACX be the profitable airline that we know it can be. And lets stop all this BAR BACX bickering, I have flown with BAR and BACX crews and there is no difference in the level of service or professionalism.
Heres hoping,
BB
Having read this thread all the way through I wish to clarify a few points,
1. I am under the impression that all the ground staff at MAN are mainline(BAR) staff and not BACX with the exception of Engineering.
2. I am also under the impression that all ground staff at GLA and BHX are supplied by Mainline(BAR).
It is also my belief that one of the other major contributary factors to the problems within BACX is charges that levied by Mainline for services rendered. The fares are controlled by mainline and as someone previously stated the whole outfit has not been allowed to develop within the industry.
And as for cost cutting, well I hear on the grapevine that next week the whole of the "Leadership Team" (LT) and most the GM's and SM's are off to a rather expensive hotel in the country to discuss the next rebranding of the company, I wonder how much that will cost, why should the company pay for what will ultimately be a very expensive game of golf(please forgive my cynisism).
Let BACX be the profitable airline that we know it can be. And lets stop all this BAR BACX bickering, I have flown with BAR and BACX crews and there is no difference in the level of service or professionalism.
Heres hoping,
BB
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BB you are correct in the majority of your points. Far be it for me to make the observation that it can only be very expensive to provide BACX or/and BAR or whoever rather than outsource the ground operation to a GA.
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BAR - British Airways Regional is now fully part of BACX. It was a separate company that employed management, cabin staff and ground handling at BHX to wet lease BA aircraft to operate UK and europe Ops out of MAN and BHX. These aircraft were returned to BA and the RJ aircraft from CitiFlyer transferred to BRAL/Brymon used to cover these routes under the new 'BACX'.
Groundhandling staff at GLA, EDI & MAN are employees of British Airways who are on contract to supply ground handling to BACX.
In theory BACX good dump it's BA handling contracts but that would mean cash going outside BA plc. This would only be cost effective for the BA group if it could lose it's very expensive ground handling overhead staff costs at these bases and have the shuttle handled by a third party.
Groundhandling staff at GLA, EDI & MAN are employees of British Airways who are on contract to supply ground handling to BACX.
In theory BACX good dump it's BA handling contracts but that would mean cash going outside BA plc. This would only be cost effective for the BA group if it could lose it's very expensive ground handling overhead staff costs at these bases and have the shuttle handled by a third party.
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With the exception of LHR / LGW BA is indeed dumping all its ground contracts in favour of Servisair / Globeground which appears its prefered handler. It will in addition licence that company to do all its own training. This is already in effect in the USA where Evergreen handle about 90% of our activities.
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With the exception of LHR / LGW BA is indeed dumping all its ground contracts in favour of Servisair / Globeground which appears its prefered handler. It will in addition licence that company to do all its own training. This is already in effect in the USA where Evergreen handle about 90% of our activities.
I believe CDG has been taken over by a handling agent now or is in the throws of it with the staff coming in one day to be notified they will shortly not be working for BA anymore.
Most of the European handling is now done by handling agents i believe.
I guess we will wait and see what happens in the regions and at LGW on the ground, the only sacred place in BA is at LHR. The airline started all those years ago in LHR and that is where it is going to end.
