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I'd known about it for a few days. Checked his flightplan time this morning and went down after work. He did 2 touch and go's followed by a full stop landing.
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I became aware of this a couple of days ago so went over on the offchance. One interesting thing, though. He didn't seem to use the published go-around procedure for LCY. Assume this was a requirement due to it being a test flight? I suppose that pushed the aircraft out over populated areas it wouldn't normally overfly - plus TOGA would have been used for the touch and goes, I guess. Those things would conspire to make the flights a bit more noisy than normal. The real take-off (at about 11.30 local) seemed to me to be no more noisy than the 146s or the Avros. It also looked like he used reversers to bring down the speed on touchdown - something not really seen too often at LCY! Overall, looked impressive! 
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I agree the actual take off was no noiser that usual but it was the touch and go's that intrigued me as I wasn't aware of the tests going on today so seeing a plane turning right befor my sleepy eyes was a slightly less usual wake up than what I'm normaly used to.
It was a pleasant sight none the less to finaly see Airbus at LCY
It was a pleasant sight none the less to finaly see Airbus at LCY
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A318 Touch and Goes at City
Interesting to hear that the A318 trials at London City Airport went well with two touch and goes and a full stop landing.
This would be good news for Airbus but who would be in a position to operate a bus into the City and when.
We do appericate these are only trials but things can happen with a bit of push and shove. (nes pas )
If this information is correct it must be more good news for London City Airport
This would be good news for Airbus but who would be in a position to operate a bus into the City and when.
We do appericate these are only trials but things can happen with a bit of push and shove. (nes pas )
If this information is correct it must be more good news for London City Airport
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Originally Posted by zeronine
Yes, it livened us up as well (could have written "woke us up as well" but would not want to admit to still being asleep at 09.45 !). First time round came right over the house on departure, making a very early, steep and tight climbing right turn straight off the runway end like an airshow display, was notably noisy indeed. Mrs WHBM 
even moved to comment that she was glad the departure path didn't normally go over our house.
Will be interesting to see it in use. Presumably Air France to Paris is the only serious contender at present.
even moved to comment that she was glad the departure path didn't normally go over our house.Will be interesting to see it in use. Presumably Air France to Paris is the only serious contender at present.
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Air France are the only ones with the A318 who go to LCY at the moment but as the BAe 146 and Avro RJ are now out of production, I would have thought it might get Swiss and Lufthansa Regional to look into using it. Swiss and Lufthansa both go there today with the Avro and both have A320 fleets already. It could make sense, couldn't it? That could, in the end, push BA to go that way as well...
Air France are the only ones with the A318 who go to LCY at the moment but as the BAe 146 and Avro RJ are now out of production, I would have thought it might get Swiss and Lufthansa Regional to look into using it. Swiss and Lufthansa both go there today with the Avro and both have A320 fleets already. It could make sense, couldn't it? That could, in the end, push BA to go that way as well...
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Yeah thats a definate possiblility. There is also the Embraer E170 (already steep approach and LCY certified) to contend with the Airbus A318. Both companies receive government subsidies so price may not be the deciding factor to airlines - like you say it will probably have to do with the make of existing fleet.
Yeah thats a definate possiblility. There is also the Embraer E170 (already steep approach and LCY certified) to contend with the Airbus A318. Both companies receive government subsidies so price may not be the deciding factor to airlines - like you say it will probably have to do with the make of existing fleet.
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zeronine, the only Embraer already certified for LCY is the 135. They'd like to do the 170 - in fact they sold it to Swiss on the premise that the 175 would do LCY - but it's not a done deal yet. They may well get there - as of today the 170 is neither steep approach nor LCY certified - but it would be a reduction in size compared to the 146 or the Avro. That would mean that, for growth, the only way would be to add frequency. I suppose the A318 would make quite a big step forward and allow growth in a different way. Air France have more than 120 seats on their A318s so that means a growth of 20 to 25%. Not bad! All they have to do is sort out the stand issue.
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Dermot Desmond to sell London City airport?
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20th Anniversary
Monday 29 May 2006 marks the 20th Anniversary of the ‘Beginning’ of London City Airport. Despite facing many challenges, building began 20 years ago, on Thursday 29 May 1986, when HRH The Prince of Wales laid the foundation stone at London City Airport, which today is still London’s only active airport terminal.
The Foundation Ceremony was particularly memorable as Chief Pilot of Brymon Airways, Captain Harry Gee, brought the concept of a regional city centre airport to life. Harry simulated a landing on what was to be the runway and then made a low level pass along the King George V Dock, causing the crowd and The Prince of Wales to duck!
Work on the £30 million project was under way. The terminal was constructed to a very high standard reflecting its proposed use for business travellers. London City Airport, then unknown to many, set the tone for the redevelopment around the Airport, which was to follow as the regeneration of the Docklands spread eastwards. The Airport opened for passengers on 26 October 1987 with a formal opening by the Queen on 5 November 1987.
Richard Gooding, Managing Director of London City Airport for the last ten years, believes from that day the true potential of an airport in East London was recognised: ”Our location, which when we opened was seen as our major challenge, is now the principal cause of the Airport’s success. Today London City Airport is recognised as one of Europe’s leading airports for business travel, serving many of Europe’s leading financial and commercial business centres.
“The exciting regeneration that East London has enjoyed over the last 20 years is set to continue as area prepares to host the 2012 Olympic Games. We see ourselves very much as part of this exciting future.”
The Foundation Ceremony was particularly memorable as Chief Pilot of Brymon Airways, Captain Harry Gee, brought the concept of a regional city centre airport to life. Harry simulated a landing on what was to be the runway and then made a low level pass along the King George V Dock, causing the crowd and The Prince of Wales to duck!
Work on the £30 million project was under way. The terminal was constructed to a very high standard reflecting its proposed use for business travellers. London City Airport, then unknown to many, set the tone for the redevelopment around the Airport, which was to follow as the regeneration of the Docklands spread eastwards. The Airport opened for passengers on 26 October 1987 with a formal opening by the Queen on 5 November 1987.
Richard Gooding, Managing Director of London City Airport for the last ten years, believes from that day the true potential of an airport in East London was recognised: ”Our location, which when we opened was seen as our major challenge, is now the principal cause of the Airport’s success. Today London City Airport is recognised as one of Europe’s leading airports for business travel, serving many of Europe’s leading financial and commercial business centres.
“The exciting regeneration that East London has enjoyed over the last 20 years is set to continue as area prepares to host the 2012 Olympic Games. We see ourselves very much as part of this exciting future.”
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.....and the £15m or so gamble by the clever Irishman has resulted in it being up for sale - for an estimated £400m. Good luck fella!!!
On a serious note, the growth there has far surpassed what anyone would have imagined. Thursday 25th May 2006 saw 337 movements - an everage of 27 per hour during it's limited day operating.
So - what now? What price BAA to own the whole of London's main airports - esp with 2012 looming, and planning permission for more stands?
On a serious note, the growth there has far surpassed what anyone would have imagined. Thursday 25th May 2006 saw 337 movements - an everage of 27 per hour during it's limited day operating.
So - what now? What price BAA to own the whole of London's main airports - esp with 2012 looming, and planning permission for more stands?