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Old 27th Oct 2005, 20:06
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Any chance of that DVR release I asked for last week Alan
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Old 27th Oct 2005, 20:39
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AlanM wrote:

. It is only going to get busier - as Thames is expected to work all the Southend inbounds/outbounds from Southend (probably using 4000ft to get them inside CAS)

What do you you base this statement on?
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Old 27th Oct 2005, 20:47
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A nonny....

NEGATIVE.....traffic departing EHAM has that level blocked.

Red Four....

Are you going to be at the meeting next week at Centre Place West Drayton discussing this concept with other airport management? Something about FLYBE's DH8s and the new service........ (unless of course FLYBE are happy bimbling along outside CAS below traffic not calling us)
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Old 30th Oct 2005, 17:57
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Well it looks like passengers out of London City are in for problems over the next week as the Limehouse Link road tunnel outbound from London, the principal route out from Central London to the airport, has been closed off after a bus caught fire in it early Sunday morning and the blaze was so intense the road surface and overhead lighting were all destroyed.

There's nothing about it on the airport website (so far), but looking at the resulting congestion of the Sunday afternoon traffic, and extrapolating to weekday business hours, looks like a lot of people are going to be missing flights. The bus service from Liverpool Street will get caught up in it all.

Irony is that the bus belonged to Stagecoach buses in East London, principal owner Brian Souter, and one of the major carriers at London City is Scot Airways, principal owner Brian Souter. So if you're on Scot and miss your flight, tell the staff it's all Brian's problem
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Old 31st Oct 2005, 18:25
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Yeah, there were quite a few late PAX and then some at LCY today...

On a more positive note, traffic east of the Limeouse Link bottleneck appeared to be lighter than usual. Tube or DLR to Canning Town is the way to go...
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Have Sunair/BA ditched plans to fly CPH-LCY with a D328 now SAS have begun the route with DHC8D?

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Old 8th Nov 2005, 18:15
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Yes, Sun Air decided not to start a while ago. It would have been mad for both to have started.
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There continue to be rumours coming out of Austria that Austrian Arrows is seriously looking at a VIE-LCY service to be flown with "Dash 8" equipment (due to the length of the route, I suppose this means Q400). Any info on that from the other end ?
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Old 10th Nov 2005, 21:48
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Do Austrian still operate Fokker 70's?

Now that could be fun

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Old 11th Nov 2005, 11:15
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They do, but 1) they would require some mods and b) would still have operational issues (reason why AF switched from F70 to B146s).


By the way, has anybody an insight why apparently for the proposed NCL-route Eastern is in the running rather than VLM Airlines - or rather, why VLM is, as the logical airline to operate the route, not interested in NCL ? Various articles in airline mags state that a decision about a January start of the NCL-route by T3 is now imminent, to be operated by a Saab 2000 with a flight time of 65 minutes.
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Old 14th Nov 2005, 09:44
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Grrr

An interesting article:

http://www.ciobinternational.org/ope...ArticleID=4788

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Old 21st Nov 2005, 17:11
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#12/2005 of Airliner World runs a short news clipping on WDL that says that "the Cologne-based airline is understood to be in talks to operate a new service between Madrid and London City in partnership with Air Nostrum and on behalf of Spanish national carrier Iberia".

Whatever that means.
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Old 21st Nov 2005, 17:44
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Whatever that means
WDL have got a few 146s and do various leasing arrangements which an operator putting their toe in the water on an LCY route could find an advantage.

Air Nostrum are the commuter carrier offshoot of Iberia, mainly operating domestic within Spain. For several years now much of their turboprop fleet has been provided under a similar arrangement with our old friends VLM/Denim Air. These are dedicated aircraft in Iberia livery.

If you were going to try a Madrid-LCY route marketed as an Iberia operation, say twice daily, with a non-standard type, it would be a good way to go. The WDL 146s are sufficiently old that a simple rate per hour should be adequate for an operation initially with a lot of standing time at Madrid.

Flightline would probably be interested in bidding for the contract as well.
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Old 21st Nov 2005, 17:45
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EASTERN AIRWAYS NCL - LCY

Eastern Airways have announced NCL - LCY 4x weekdays

http://www.newcastleairport.com/ReadNews.aspx?news=123
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Old 21st Nov 2005, 19:16
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Whatever that means.
Next time I shall be less cryptic

What I meant to hint at was the fact that the same story already popped up about a year ago, but in the end it did not materialize.

Maybe it is second time luck. We shall see.

WDL has been doing a lot of ACMI work for Air Nostrum in the past. Their Bae 146s, however, are pretty knackered and 3+3. so probably not too appealing for the business clientele.
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Old 22nd Nov 2005, 08:50
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Their Bae 146s, however, are pretty knackered and 3+3
The 2+3 146s were a feature of its earlier days of operation in the US. When these aircraft returned to European operators the seats remained for a while but many seemed to go to 3+3 at the next major check. Which 146 operators still have the main cabin as 2+3 ?

Several LCY operators seem to operate fully 3+3 aircraft but not sell the centre seats in the business class area.
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Old 22nd Nov 2005, 12:00
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Which 146 operators still have the main cabin as 2+3 ?
Swiss does. Lufthansa used to, but has now switched to 6-abreast.

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Old 22nd Nov 2005, 21:13
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Interestingly enough, in a German forum someone who apears to be in the know reports that WDL will add a business class section in some of their BAe 146s for "next season". Appears to be a good indicator that the MAD-LCY operation indeed may go ahead.
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Old 5th Dec 2005, 11:27
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On a.net, there is an interesting LCY thread triggered by the opening of the DLR extension.

Some guy who apparently has an insight into what is going on at LCY has hinted at the following destinations to be the front-runners for new routes from LCY:

VIE by Welcome Air (interesting one indeed)

MMX by Malmoe Aviation (looked at again by Malmoe Av.)

ARN by SAS (rumoured for a while)

WAW by LOT (only an educated guess by me as the remarks are somewhat cloudy).

Apparently, MAD (by IB) and LIN (by AZ) are currently on the backburner.


There is also reference being made to something "big" happening in 2006. I can only imagine that this means that some airline is interested in setting up shop at LCY, whoever that might be (maybe AF/Cityjet or LH/BMI?)
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Old 5th Dec 2005, 18:58
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Surely for LOT & AZA to begin flights to London City, either the ERJ145 or the EMB170 will have to be certified for City first?

Who picks up the cost for the certification? Airlines, airport or manufacturers (i'm guessing the latter?)

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