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The news that the the docklands airport or London City as some will recognize as is or has been sold to a consortium ffrom America, it is very sad in my view will we lose the identity of it being London City Airport??
With the BAA airports now under the Spanish banner what next??.
There is so much of British Aviation being lost overseas what next??
When the British have a good thing it is always lost watching a tribute to Raymond Baxter to night and his love of Concorde British Aviation is sliding away.
With the BAA airports now under the Spanish banner what next??.
There is so much of British Aviation being lost overseas what next??
When the British have a good thing it is always lost watching a tribute to Raymond Baxter to night and his love of Concorde British Aviation is sliding away.
What's the difference? Dermot Desmond who owned the airport before was Irish, now it has American owners. LCY hasn't been British since the Mowlem days! This could eb good for LCY. It's pretty busy every time I fly out and new big owners might put up the £'s or $'s to expand the facility. The key thing for the nwe owners is to keep the staff as they represent the culture and soul of LCY. They are smart people the new owners and I am sure they will make smart decisions.
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Isn't LCY something like number 8 on the list of UK airports for scheduled traffic? SO not too poor a performance?
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New Lufthansa services
Now oploaded into the GDS:
Munich:
X6 MUC 0620 - 0720 LCY 0750 - 1045 MUC AR8 opb CLH
X7 MUC 1735 - 1835 LCY 1905 - 2200 MUC AR8 opb CLH
Hamburg:
X67 HAM 0745 - 0845 LCY 0915 - 1215 HAM DH1 opb RUS
X7 HAM 1640 - 1740 LCY 1810 - 2110 HAM DH1 opb RUS
Nuremberg:
X67 NUE 1100 - 1230 LCY 1300 - 1615 NUE AT5 opb KIS
For those who usually take their wives to PAR from LCY in the christmas season, NUE might be a nice alternative in December. The city boasts the largest and most famous German christmas market in a nice medieval setting. It appears that return tickets can be had for as little as 60 GBP at the moment.
Possible Terminal Expansion ?
Having experienced again and again how crowded the departure lounge and the terminal nowadays gets, I was wondering if there are plans to use the space between the terminal and DLR station more efficiently ? It currently is only used for a rather useless dead end road, but the space could nicely accommodate an expansion of the check-in / counter area to the east and also an enlarged departure lounge incl. a few shops ?
Now oploaded into the GDS:
Munich:
X6 MUC 0620 - 0720 LCY 0750 - 1045 MUC AR8 opb CLH
X7 MUC 1735 - 1835 LCY 1905 - 2200 MUC AR8 opb CLH
Hamburg:
X67 HAM 0745 - 0845 LCY 0915 - 1215 HAM DH1 opb RUS
X7 HAM 1640 - 1740 LCY 1810 - 2110 HAM DH1 opb RUS
Nuremberg:
X67 NUE 1100 - 1230 LCY 1300 - 1615 NUE AT5 opb KIS
For those who usually take their wives to PAR from LCY in the christmas season, NUE might be a nice alternative in December. The city boasts the largest and most famous German christmas market in a nice medieval setting. It appears that return tickets can be had for as little as 60 GBP at the moment.
Possible Terminal Expansion ?
Having experienced again and again how crowded the departure lounge and the terminal nowadays gets, I was wondering if there are plans to use the space between the terminal and DLR station more efficiently ? It currently is only used for a rather useless dead end road, but the space could nicely accommodate an expansion of the check-in / counter area to the east and also an enlarged departure lounge incl. a few shops ?
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...t_Pax_2005.pdf
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According to the GDS, yes.
12 weekdaily flights by Lufthansa in the winter to 5 destinations (FRA, DUS, HAM, STR, NUE) - although none of them operated by Lufthansa themselves: 5 by Contactair, 3 by Cityline, 2 by Cirrus Airlines, 1 by Eurowings, 1 by Augsburg Airways.
12 weekdaily flights by Lufthansa in the winter to 5 destinations (FRA, DUS, HAM, STR, NUE) - although none of them operated by Lufthansa themselves: 5 by Contactair, 3 by Cityline, 2 by Cirrus Airlines, 1 by Eurowings, 1 by Augsburg Airways.
Passenger numbers
No 18 in the UK actually, on the last annual figures. Even Liverpool handles double the LCY numbers. Let's not get carried away.
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...t_Pax_2005.pdf
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/80/airport...t_Pax_2005.pdf
Although I don't have the figures to hand I don't think LCY's position in the table changes notably if you exclude non-scheduled (often a meaningless differentiation anyway nowadays with carriers like Thomsonfly who sit across the boundary between the two). The airports just above LCY in the table do not have much charter traffic either, and examples like Liverpool don't have much nowadays either, meaning it's still more than double LCY in scheduled alone. The higher percentage charter airports, like Gatwick or Manchester, are sufficiently far ahead that it doesn't matter.
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By the way, there is an interview with LCY CEO Richard Gooding in this weeks ABTN:
http://www.abtn.co.uk/ABTN_Exclusive...mpic_challenge
Some quotes:
“The new owners are going to want a significant return on their investment, which for us means we are going to have to deliver results quickly. In short, we are going to have to produce more money very quickly by growing the airport faster then we’ve previously been able to do.”
“We are working with our larger carriers such as VLM, KLM and Air France with a view to increasing routes and services.”
Gooding is fearful of the implications that 2012 will bring. “I already know that when all the passengers fly back from the Olympics I’ll have to start worrying about passenger figures in 2013. The new owners will want to know where they’ve all gone and I’ll be trying to explain why the numbers are so awful.
http://www.abtn.co.uk/ABTN_Exclusive...mpic_challenge
Some quotes:
“The new owners are going to want a significant return on their investment, which for us means we are going to have to deliver results quickly. In short, we are going to have to produce more money very quickly by growing the airport faster then we’ve previously been able to do.”
“We are working with our larger carriers such as VLM, KLM and Air France with a view to increasing routes and services.”
Gooding is fearful of the implications that 2012 will bring. “I already know that when all the passengers fly back from the Olympics I’ll have to start worrying about passenger figures in 2013. The new owners will want to know where they’ve all gone and I’ll be trying to explain why the numbers are so awful.
Originally Posted by Richard Gooding
“I already know that when all the passengers fly back from the Olympics I’ll have to start worrying about passenger figures in 2013. The new owners will want to know where they’ve all gone
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Aren't the new owners Americans ? Maybe the CEO fears that they have never heard of the Olympics: "Wot, Rick, Goody ole boy - you mean Olympics are kinda like a huge Super Bowl ?"
In all honesty, while there is so much talk about LCY being the gateway for the Olympics, I fail to see how it will work except for some officials and maybe journalists from the continent. From 90 per cent of the world LCY is simply inaccessible as it can only handle short-haul aircraft. From the remaining 10 per cent, capacity is fairly limited as only 100 seaters can get into the airport. LCY will of course enjoy a big boost in passenger numbers, but other airports will be far more important for the Olympics number-wise.
But on the other hand - how about VLM being the "Official Puddle-Jumper Airline Of The London 2012 Olympics".
In all honesty, while there is so much talk about LCY being the gateway for the Olympics, I fail to see how it will work except for some officials and maybe journalists from the continent. From 90 per cent of the world LCY is simply inaccessible as it can only handle short-haul aircraft. From the remaining 10 per cent, capacity is fairly limited as only 100 seaters can get into the airport. LCY will of course enjoy a big boost in passenger numbers, but other airports will be far more important for the Olympics number-wise.
But on the other hand - how about VLM being the "Official Puddle-Jumper Airline Of The London 2012 Olympics".
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....and the wx in summer will be crap, meaning SVFR for the 100s of security/camera helis reducing movement rates at LCY.
Can hardly wait!!
Why does RG care anyway - with a fantastic return on yr money I would just walk away myself.
Can hardly wait!!
Why does RG care anyway - with a fantastic return on yr money I would just walk away myself.
In case you are wondering, it is indeed very noticeable from Stratford station platform.
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[QUOTE=virginblue;2908050]New Lufthansa services
Now oploaded into the GDS:
Munich:
X6 MUC 0620 - 0720 LCY 0750 - 1045 MUC AR8 opb CLH
X7 MUC 1735 - 1835 LCY 1905 - 2200 MUC AR8 opb CLH
Hamburg:
X67 HAM 0745 - 0845 LCY 0915 - 1215 HAM DH1 opb RUS
X7 HAM 1640 - 1740 LCY 1810 - 2110 HAM DH1 opb RUS
Nuremberg:
X67 NUE 1100 - 1230 LCY 1300 - 1615 NUE AT5 opb KIS
Hey this is a big expansion for LH at LCY. I wonder if this is the start of more LH developments or even Star Alliance developments at LCY?
Now oploaded into the GDS:
Munich:
X6 MUC 0620 - 0720 LCY 0750 - 1045 MUC AR8 opb CLH
X7 MUC 1735 - 1835 LCY 1905 - 2200 MUC AR8 opb CLH
Hamburg:
X67 HAM 0745 - 0845 LCY 0915 - 1215 HAM DH1 opb RUS
X7 HAM 1640 - 1740 LCY 1810 - 2110 HAM DH1 opb RUS
Nuremberg:
X67 NUE 1100 - 1230 LCY 1300 - 1615 NUE AT5 opb KIS
Hey this is a big expansion for LH at LCY. I wonder if this is the start of more LH developments or even Star Alliance developments at LCY?
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SAS is a Star Alliance member and has recently started ARN and CPH, Air One is a Star Alliance partner and will soon start LIN, FCO, GOA, TRN, Swiss is continuing to grow at LCY, Lufthansa is doubling its flights.
Almost 40 daily Star Alliance flights to/from LCY soon. Now only Austrian needs to come on board and *Alliance is nicely positioned at LCY.
Almost 40 daily Star Alliance flights to/from LCY soon. Now only Austrian needs to come on board and *Alliance is nicely positioned at LCY.