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I think Delta have 10 ex AA 757-200ERs on the way, to be used on Transatlantic flightsm.
As for RYR restrictions at LDY, I'm not sure the engines are the problem. Most of the 738s have the 26k rated engines, only some have the 24k rated. I thought brakes were more of an issue with higher temperatures on the short runway and the turnaround time?
As for RYR restrictions at LDY, I'm not sure the engines are the problem. Most of the 738s have the 26k rated engines, only some have the 24k rated. I thought brakes were more of an issue with higher temperatures on the short runway and the turnaround time?
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XL at Bfs
See on the xl website that they are selling 7 destinations ex Bfs for S07. All being flown by xl themselves. Aircraft operate in and out, not based here as far as I can see.
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I would have thought that the night restrictions would put FR off from setting up any kind of base at BHD, which I'm sure the local nimbys would be glad to hear. Can't think of that many places from where they'd operate domestic flights into BHD - if you count SNN or ORK, would there be the volume for that - maybe at ORK, but would have thought they want to keep up the Taj-bashing ruse for a while.
Could BHD handle scheduled international flights - I presume there is a facility for baggage from int. flights through STN, LHR etc - but would it be worth bringing in immigration officers for just a couple of flights each day?
DL have made a big deal about their EDI to ATL being widebodied, compared to CO's 75's to EWR, but I can't see there being enough volume for many BFS-ATL rotations with a 76, so if they do launch BFS-ATL with a 75, I'm sure they'll have to try a different spin. Florida aside, the US routes seem to be more about onward connections than the arrival city itself - afaik, most only carry around 30% O&D, so I would have thought ATL would make much more sense for DL than BFS, but either way, I'd expect to see more Scottish expansion (prob GLA to ATL) first - the market is larger, DL are doing much better on pond crossing than AA or US, and the odd-sweetener can always make the gamble that little bit less risky.
Could BHD handle scheduled international flights - I presume there is a facility for baggage from int. flights through STN, LHR etc - but would it be worth bringing in immigration officers for just a couple of flights each day?
DL have made a big deal about their EDI to ATL being widebodied, compared to CO's 75's to EWR, but I can't see there being enough volume for many BFS-ATL rotations with a 76, so if they do launch BFS-ATL with a 75, I'm sure they'll have to try a different spin. Florida aside, the US routes seem to be more about onward connections than the arrival city itself - afaik, most only carry around 30% O&D, so I would have thought ATL would make much more sense for DL than BFS, but either way, I'd expect to see more Scottish expansion (prob GLA to ATL) first - the market is larger, DL are doing much better on pond crossing than AA or US, and the odd-sweetener can always make the gamble that little bit less risky.
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Flights to Belfast form Cork would not have the same volume as flights to Dublin obviously....but then again, taking the train or driving is not really an option when going to Belfast so a daily service could probably work.
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This little corner of the world is getting busy...
So, we have...
BMI withdrawing (maybe) or returning to BFS (more likely)...
Air Berlin maybe going to BFS...
FR coming to BHD?
Globespan starting to Orlando (definite)
CO increasing flights to Newark (or going 762 / 763 if they can find one spare...maybe a 787 in the near future...ok, that's a leap too far)
Possibly another transatlantic operator...my money would be on Toronto, but with who? Or maybe Delta to Atlanta?
Wizz Air to three Eastern European destinations...
Did I miss anything?
All good news (apart from the FR business, as I'm still fuming about my recent Dublin - Salzburg experience, but I must learn not to carry grudges!)
Hope with all this fun, the good ATC staff in "lil Norn Iron" will still have some room for a little Cherokee!!
So, we have...
BMI withdrawing (maybe) or returning to BFS (more likely)...
Air Berlin maybe going to BFS...
FR coming to BHD?
Globespan starting to Orlando (definite)
CO increasing flights to Newark (or going 762 / 763 if they can find one spare...maybe a 787 in the near future...ok, that's a leap too far)
Possibly another transatlantic operator...my money would be on Toronto, but with who? Or maybe Delta to Atlanta?
Wizz Air to three Eastern European destinations...
Did I miss anything?
All good news (apart from the FR business, as I'm still fuming about my recent Dublin - Salzburg experience, but I must learn not to carry grudges!)
Hope with all this fun, the good ATC staff in "lil Norn Iron" will still have some room for a little Cherokee!!
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If bmi do give up BHD-LHR aer lingus would have to step in, or if not the government would have to get down on thier knees and beg Willie Walsh
As for business lounges AerLingus don't operate a business class in Europe these days so a BFS LHR rotation wouldn't require one...and BFS is open later ...all the reasons I gave for a reduction in BMI's figures
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CONTINENTAL:
Travelled ex-BFS on the CO 757 to & fro Newark in August. Packed to the rafters both directions and got offered $500 at Newark to take another flight home. I would have accepted only there wasnt another flight till the next evening and accommodation wasn't part of the deal.
I've noticed arrivals into BFS are regularly delayed now. I can only put this down to capacity issues at Newark. We left stand 15 minutes before departure time and finally took off 1hr 40 minutes later!!!
Some serious queues of aircraft waiting to depart and if the weather changes the whole thing goes belly up. So I cant see CO pushing for another slot when Newark seems to be bursting at the seams. B767 or B777 to BFS is more likely but have they got the spare aircraft?
RYANAIR
When is this never-ending story going to end Cant ever see them coming to BFS without extra terminal space..... Have you ever seen how many aircraft are on stand at BFS during peak times..... particularly Saturday am.
BHD seems more likely but only if the old terminal could be transformed. But I suspect there would be more lucrative areas for RYR expansion long before they'd even consider a dodgy old terminal with not too many 738w equipped stands, a shorter r/w than LDY and a curfew.
I suppose as long as RYR aren't in the Belfast marked, there'll always be rumours!
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Anyone heard how they are going with their 6-month trial at BFS? By the look of the rotation point of those B767's they ain't carrying too much
Travelled ex-BFS on the CO 757 to & fro Newark in August. Packed to the rafters both directions and got offered $500 at Newark to take another flight home. I would have accepted only there wasnt another flight till the next evening and accommodation wasn't part of the deal.
I've noticed arrivals into BFS are regularly delayed now. I can only put this down to capacity issues at Newark. We left stand 15 minutes before departure time and finally took off 1hr 40 minutes later!!!
Some serious queues of aircraft waiting to depart and if the weather changes the whole thing goes belly up. So I cant see CO pushing for another slot when Newark seems to be bursting at the seams. B767 or B777 to BFS is more likely but have they got the spare aircraft? RYANAIR
When is this never-ending story going to end
Cant ever see them coming to BFS without extra terminal space..... Have you ever seen how many aircraft are on stand at BFS during peak times..... particularly Saturday am. BHD seems more likely but only if the old terminal could be transformed. But I suspect there would be more lucrative areas for RYR expansion long before they'd even consider a dodgy old terminal with not too many 738w equipped stands, a shorter r/w than LDY and a curfew.
I suppose as long as RYR aren't in the Belfast marked, there'll always be rumours!
UPS/STARAIR
Anyone heard how they are going with their 6-month trial at BFS? By the look of the rotation point of those B767's they ain't carrying too much
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Hi This is my first post in here.
I have been waiting 2 months since Easyjet began their winter timetable, to book flights from BFS - NCE.
I have emailed and wasn't surprised not to receive a reply, but when I rang on Sunday, I was told all outstanding flights will be out by Tuesday, and if it doesn't appear, then the route will have been taken off.
Of course none came out yesterday.
Do I take it I will have to book winter flights to Nice via Luton or Liverpool, like I used to, or will I wait.
There are still lots of routes not issued yet. Why can't they issue a statement saying which have been taken off the winter schedule.
Tks
I have been waiting 2 months since Easyjet began their winter timetable, to book flights from BFS - NCE.
I have emailed and wasn't surprised not to receive a reply, but when I rang on Sunday, I was told all outstanding flights will be out by Tuesday, and if it doesn't appear, then the route will have been taken off.
Of course none came out yesterday.
Do I take it I will have to book winter flights to Nice via Luton or Liverpool, like I used to, or will I wait.
There are still lots of routes not issued yet. Why can't they issue a statement saying which have been taken off the winter schedule.
Tks
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Tks.
Just booked flights BFS - LIV - NCE for November and January, and DUB - NCE March.
I hope when Ezy bring out their remaining winter schedule BFS - NCE is not included!
Just booked flights BFS - LIV - NCE for November and January, and DUB - NCE March.
I hope when Ezy bring out their remaining winter schedule BFS - NCE is not included!
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Did Easyjet receive assistance from the Air Route Development Fund to launch the Nice route, I seem to recall that they did, though I may be wrong.
Is the period of assistance over, I thought that it was originally stated that routes would be assisted for 3 years.
Is the period of assistance over, I thought that it was originally stated that routes would be assisted for 3 years.
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bmi at BHD
Returning to the subject of the pax figures at BHD. We were all fed this nonsense that the airport many wanted to use, especially business people, was Bhd. Well, it doesn't seem that way when you look at the pax numbers, when the Lhr route moved to Bhd, many, in fact over half of the numbers from a few years ago have voted with their feet and now get to London some other route. The charges out of Bhd added to the cost of the flight are awful.
bmi fell out with BFS management of the time over special deals given to easyJet. Nevertheless bmi are on record as saying that they would NEVER have left BFS if they had known that BA were planning to depart. BA left Aldergrove because BA badly needed the slots to enable long-haul to be consolidated at LHR.
As for the lack of late flights contributing to bmi lack of profitability, I'm not so sure, as the existing latest flights can frequently be had at relatively cheap fares. In fact looking at the fares I would wager that apparent decreasing load factors notwithstanding, BHD is one of bmi's most profitable routes. The drop in passengers is mainly attributable to smaller aircraft.
bmi have had to massage their financials by selling slots, perhaps they will sell some more and concentrate on long-haul.
Or just maybe we have a negotiating ploy on the part of bmi. After all the charges at BHD are just ridiculous.
easyjets present practice of rolling cancellations should be driving passengers back to bmi, and perhaps even ABs direction. You certainly can't treat passengers like that and expect not to pay the price. Interesting to note there that Gatwick flights are rarely cancelled. Due to higher % business travellers?
Well that's my vague thoughts anyway.
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Stands at BFS
Noticed that we now have a couple of new stands behind the International Pier at BFS.
What routes are they being used for? And are there any plans for any more expansion?
What routes are they being used for? And are there any plans for any more expansion?
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stands 28+29 have been in operation @belfast for over a year now they are being used as international stands plus an over flow for frieght operations bfs badly needs to get the frieght apron plans into overdraft and get the second terminal started along 1-6F that will be 8 new stands with all frieght moved to beside the blue hangers @ delta think the work has started on that new apron and road
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well looking at the plans all freight will be in the apron beside the blue hangers more concrete pored to fit them all in with new hangers being built time frame for this was 3 years i think, now from what i understand the blue sheds that currently are home to ba cargo servisair cargo directly north off the current freight apron will be converted into a "state off the art" domestic terminal 2 makes 1 think and nod !!! the date on those plans were something like spring 2010
