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Co would not be launching another flight to any other US destination. Co would only increase frequency to EWR as they use this to feed to other US destinations. Daily service is resuming in early March.
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I still feep hearing rumours about BRS-BOS route but I dont think that'd be CO, More likely AA or UA I'd of thought and thats no probs for a 757, its only 6 hr flight.
I'd be astonished if CO went to twice daily!
FCA definatley have something up their sleeves my sources are telling me, think its going to be 757s not 321s by summer 2007, allong with some new routes, but cant see any long haul with them till 787, I'd guess that if they're going to re-train the 321 pilots to 757 then thats a very good indication that there will be a 787 based at BRS, Infact i'd even put money on it
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I'd be astonished if CO went to twice daily!
FCA definatley have something up their sleeves my sources are telling me, think its going to be 757s not 321s by summer 2007, allong with some new routes, but cant see any long haul with them till 787, I'd guess that if they're going to re-train the 321 pilots to 757 then thats a very good indication that there will be a 787 based at BRS, Infact i'd even put money on it
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According to another aviation message board site that I occasionally visit, CO is to increase its rotations to EWR this coming summer from EDI, GLA, MAN and LGW, although in some cases the increase also means smaller aircraft. I have not confirmed any of this but have no reason to doubt it.
Perhaps that’s where the idea of increased frequency on BRS-EWR came from. Wouldn’t CO want to make sure the current BRS-EWR route scheduling is worthwhile first before embarking on expansion?
Before we get too carried away I think it’s worth mentioning the BRS draft Master Plan which states there is limited demand from the Bristol catchment area for many worldwide destinations (the draft plan lists some of these in its section on runway capacity).
The draft plan goes on to state that passenger forecasts identify demand for four potential long haul routes by scheduled carriers: New York (already served), Washington, Dubai and another US destination such as Atlanta. The plan deals with the period up to 2030, albeit forecasts from 2015-2030 are only in outline form.
In addition, there is further demand for long haul services by holiday charter airlines, with the total long haul market (scheduled and charter) estimated at 1.2 million annual pax by 2030.
As BRS is currently forecast to have an annual throughput of around 12 million pax by 2030 it can be seen that it will still be an overwhelmingly UK and European airport.
As for the base allocation of FCA's 787s, one assumes that intially there would not be enough long haul work from BRS to justify a full-time aircraft and that equipment from other bases would be used for part of the week. Anyway, this is all in the future and no more than speculation at best.
Perhaps that’s where the idea of increased frequency on BRS-EWR came from. Wouldn’t CO want to make sure the current BRS-EWR route scheduling is worthwhile first before embarking on expansion?
Before we get too carried away I think it’s worth mentioning the BRS draft Master Plan which states there is limited demand from the Bristol catchment area for many worldwide destinations (the draft plan lists some of these in its section on runway capacity).
The draft plan goes on to state that passenger forecasts identify demand for four potential long haul routes by scheduled carriers: New York (already served), Washington, Dubai and another US destination such as Atlanta. The plan deals with the period up to 2030, albeit forecasts from 2015-2030 are only in outline form.
In addition, there is further demand for long haul services by holiday charter airlines, with the total long haul market (scheduled and charter) estimated at 1.2 million annual pax by 2030.
As BRS is currently forecast to have an annual throughput of around 12 million pax by 2030 it can be seen that it will still be an overwhelmingly UK and European airport.
As for the base allocation of FCA's 787s, one assumes that intially there would not be enough long haul work from BRS to justify a full-time aircraft and that equipment from other bases would be used for part of the week. Anyway, this is all in the future and no more than speculation at best.
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CO MAN going to double daily but with 2 757's. EDI/GLA sharing a second daily flight (3xGLAEWR and 4xEDIEWR). LGW reinstating 3xEWR daily (777,762,752). DUB 2xEWR Daily (757). SNN 2xEWR Daily (757). LGW 1xCLE daily (757) returning
BRS,BHX,BFS staying at 1xEWR Daily
BRS,BHX,BFS staying at 1xEWR Daily
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On the subject of Continental schedules, BHX was 2 x daily last summer and is 10 per week for the main summer period on 2006.
The reduction from last summer I belive is due partly to the Bristol and Belfast flights taking passengers.( BFS pax had used to connect vis BE from BHD.)
On that basis I see no chance at all on 2 a day BRS.
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The reduction from last summer I belive is due partly to the Bristol and Belfast flights taking passengers.( BFS pax had used to connect vis BE from BHD.)
On that basis I see no chance at all on 2 a day BRS.
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As far as I'm aware with FCA the 787s will be operating alongside the 767, Picked up the First Choice winter 06/07 brochure and the BJL and SSH are showing prem upgrades available, FCA only operate that on the 321 and 767, so does that mean they're gona attempt the BJL on 321(which would be a hell of a struggle as they cant get to Cyprus sometime) and not 757? or does that mean a 767 coming into do it? Could be possible as they will have 3 extra 767s by next winter.
Also heard TCX will be defo coming back in summer 07 for a year round base, not sure on a/c type though.
Also heard TCX will be defo coming back in summer 07 for a year round base, not sure on a/c type though.
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Originally Posted by a bristolian
Jamesair
Not interested in taking over HRW.
More interested in re-taking our position as the UK's 8th busiest
airport - which i think should have done right about now - if not a bit sooner!!
Happy Xmas everyone!
Not interested in taking over HRW.
More interested in re-taking our position as the UK's 8th busiest
airport - which i think should have done right about now - if not a bit sooner!!
Happy Xmas everyone!
In the rolling 12 month period ending 31 December 2005 BRS crept past NCL with 5,199,321 annual pax compared to NCL's 5,187,538.
In December BRS had 364,846 pax and NCL 324,064.
In recent years BRS seems to do better than NCL in the winter and NCL does better than BRS in the summer.
Still a long, long way though for either airport to reach 8th position.
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Hello WATABENCH. Good to hear from you again. I thought that you may have gone to pastures new. One or two of the ‘old’ posters with connections to BRS no longer seem to post which is a great pity because their gentle hints were more valuable than speculation from people like me.
It’s a quiet time on the BRS thread it is true but not at the airport of course. The airport was within a gnat’s whisker of 5.2 million pax in 2005 and ski/snow destinations this winter seem to be setting new records, what with 17 (or is it 16 as the MYT to SZG doesn’t seem to be running?) charters each week, plus the scheds with GVA double daily with easyJet, GNB 3 x weekly with easyJet and TLS 6 x weekly with Flybe. Add in the other new scheduled routes to other places, the extra charter flights to Egypt and once again a new seasonal record is being set.
BRS has an average annual passenger growth of 13.3% over the past ten years, more than double the average UK airport growth. Even in 2005 BRS achieved 13%.
However, I suspect these phenomenal percentage annual increases will begin to fall off from now on. That’s what the airport is suggesting in its draft Master Plan. Doesn’t mean that a significantly higher pax total won’t occur in 2006 of course. It will, short of completely unforeseen circumstances, and in 2007 and so on. After all, this winter is off to a flying start (sorry!).
As for rumours, I haven’t heard any, other than a new FR route at some point, worked as a ‘W’ from a FR base. From a personal point of view I would love easyJet to restore the CPH route. It built up very well in pax number terms but the airline suggested the reason for its demise was the Danish Govt’s tax grab of £7 per pax – BRS was not the only easyJet CPH route axed. Well, the Danish Govt has just reduced this tax by 50% so I wonder if easyJet will have another look.
It’s a quiet time on the BRS thread it is true but not at the airport of course. The airport was within a gnat’s whisker of 5.2 million pax in 2005 and ski/snow destinations this winter seem to be setting new records, what with 17 (or is it 16 as the MYT to SZG doesn’t seem to be running?) charters each week, plus the scheds with GVA double daily with easyJet, GNB 3 x weekly with easyJet and TLS 6 x weekly with Flybe. Add in the other new scheduled routes to other places, the extra charter flights to Egypt and once again a new seasonal record is being set.
BRS has an average annual passenger growth of 13.3% over the past ten years, more than double the average UK airport growth. Even in 2005 BRS achieved 13%.
However, I suspect these phenomenal percentage annual increases will begin to fall off from now on. That’s what the airport is suggesting in its draft Master Plan. Doesn’t mean that a significantly higher pax total won’t occur in 2006 of course. It will, short of completely unforeseen circumstances, and in 2007 and so on. After all, this winter is off to a flying start (sorry!).
As for rumours, I haven’t heard any, other than a new FR route at some point, worked as a ‘W’ from a FR base. From a personal point of view I would love easyJet to restore the CPH route. It built up very well in pax number terms but the airline suggested the reason for its demise was the Danish Govt’s tax grab of £7 per pax – BRS was not the only easyJet CPH route axed. Well, the Danish Govt has just reduced this tax by 50% so I wonder if easyJet will have another look.
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FCA Definatly rid of the 321s from S07, replaced by 2x757.
Could be interesting with parking stands, anybody got info on new stand plans after coach satalite built, are stands 4 and 5 still going?
The 321s fit on 4 and 5 but a 757 wont, so are they remarking stands larger for 757s its going to be interesting in mornings with 1XBY, 1XCO and 2xFCA otherwise.
I couldnt see any new stand plans in the masterplan.
Can someone shed some light?
Could be interesting with parking stands, anybody got info on new stand plans after coach satalite built, are stands 4 and 5 still going?
The 321s fit on 4 and 5 but a 757 wont, so are they remarking stands larger for 757s its going to be interesting in mornings with 1XBY, 1XCO and 2xFCA otherwise.
I couldnt see any new stand plans in the masterplan.
Can someone shed some light?
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WATABENCH,
I’m not sure if you are referring specifically to the provision of more stands for a/c of 757 size but the BIA draft Master Plan certainly mentions the need for additional parking stands.
It states that up to 30 parking stands will be needed to accommodate 9 million pax per annum which total it currently forecasts to be reached by 2015. These stands would be provided by expanding the aircraft apron to the west of the Air Traffic Control Tower and in the longer term to the east of the fire station on the site of the old terminal building/administration offices. I presume they will be built taking into account the size of a/c likely to be using the airport at that time.
I believe that some work is currently taking place to increase parking availability on the west apron. I stand
to be corrected but this is my recollection from the comments made by others in this thread earlier this winter and also from what Andrew Skipp (MD) told me when I spoke to him at a Master Plan roadshow. Mr Skipp also told me the new stands would be introduced gradually as the need built up and he foresaw no problems with parking a/c this coming summer.
Graham,
CAA stats on BRS-EWR from the commencement of the route on 20 May 2005 to end of December 2005 show just under 55,000 pax used it in that period. Continental’s publicly-stated target when they commenced the route was 75,000 pax in the first year. This looks to be comfortably achievable, and indeed should be exceeded, especially as the route goes back to daily from 5 x weekly on 7 March.
However, I agree with you and others that an increase on the 1 x daily rotation is highly unlikely at the present time.
I’m not sure if you are referring specifically to the provision of more stands for a/c of 757 size but the BIA draft Master Plan certainly mentions the need for additional parking stands.
It states that up to 30 parking stands will be needed to accommodate 9 million pax per annum which total it currently forecasts to be reached by 2015. These stands would be provided by expanding the aircraft apron to the west of the Air Traffic Control Tower and in the longer term to the east of the fire station on the site of the old terminal building/administration offices. I presume they will be built taking into account the size of a/c likely to be using the airport at that time.
I believe that some work is currently taking place to increase parking availability on the west apron. I stand
to be corrected but this is my recollection from the comments made by others in this thread earlier this winter and also from what Andrew Skipp (MD) told me when I spoke to him at a Master Plan roadshow. Mr Skipp also told me the new stands would be introduced gradually as the need built up and he foresaw no problems with parking a/c this coming summer.Graham,
CAA stats on BRS-EWR from the commencement of the route on 20 May 2005 to end of December 2005 show just under 55,000 pax used it in that period. Continental’s publicly-stated target when they commenced the route was 75,000 pax in the first year. This looks to be comfortably achievable, and indeed should be exceeded, especially as the route goes back to daily from 5 x weekly on 7 March.
However, I agree with you and others that an increase on the 1 x daily rotation is highly unlikely at the present time.