NEWCASTLE

[GrahamK]

With all due respect RobT100, if you haven't anything productive to say, then it's sometimes better to say nothing.
I'd like to think everyone who posts in this thread would like to see Newcastle do well, so lets cut out the bickering and keep on-track and discuss Newcastle.
Sure, it's not the perfect airport, but where is?
Now, lets get back on topic before the Moderators lock the thread

P.S. The 2nd based Jet2 737 positions in from MAN tonight ready for tomorrows first AMS flight

[skyman771]

Originally Posted by CentreFix25

On the routes front, i think AA did a good job of scaring off any potential operator to NY for the time being.

Why do you say this ? I can't see the logic, the only other remotely possible airline that was likely to be interested last year was CO. Just because they were apparantly beaten to NYC by AA does not suggest that they would have been prepared to operate the route this year in any event. Personally I was totally uncomfortable with the AA proposal the minute they announced they were to fly the route on a one class basis, giving priority to business frequent flyers and the like, whilst the 757's were effectively configured as business class up front. Although totally shocked by the pull out I was doubtful as to the routes potential for success.
CO are the ONLY other potential operator that stand even half chance of success on this route, you can forget the likes of DL and any other mainstream US airline. As the operator must neceesarily be US based with a network to support onward destinations and thus higher demand, then in my book all roads lead to CO and they know this and will take their time. I'll give them two years max to make their move, if you read some of the recent press statements from Parkin he seems more bullish, but then he would, thats his job.

[JKP505]

I disagree that CO are the only possible operator to New York. How about DL? There is plenty of connection potential with them, plus the also have somewhat a presence at NCL via Skyteam alliance members which, incidentally, CO are anyway. I know the current aircraft would be unsuitable, but what if BD served JFK. The potential is definately at NCL for BD and further Star Alliance expansion. When AA announced JFK I thought it was a bit odd considering BA pulled out of every market that they had from NCL other than the London flights.

[CentreFix25]

skyman771

Totally agree with everything you say. When i said 'AA did a good job of scaring off any potential operator to NY for the time being', 'time being' in my opinion being 2-3 years. AA stated economic conditions (fuel price) for pulling the route, but i think that less than expected bookings were a factor. If the bookings were good, i'd have expected them to bite the bullet on fuel knowing full well that the price would come down at some point, and all the while pax numbers would increase. I'm thinking Continental are thinking the same thing. Not sure if i explained that wery well, but you get the idea.

[CentreFix25]

RobT100

Not a spotter, never have been - Enthusiast, yep.

and then you like to come on here bragging how good NCL is and how many destinations / charters it has.

*Think you'll find my posts are realistic and factually correct, if anything i've been accused of being negative.
*Like i said before 'back up your claims' copy and paste ALL of my wish lists.
*I've got 2 return flights planned i'll PM you the details if you want, we can meet up in the cafe, i'll buy you a lolly pop.

[10 DME ARC]

cf25

CF25
The booking were not bad we were out selling both BFS and BRS! The reasons AA pulled are known only to them selves? Fingers crossed.

[skyman771]

Originally Posted by JKP505

I disagree that CO are the only possible operator to New York. How about DL? There is plenty of connection potential with them, plus the also have somewhat a presence at NCL via Skyteam alliance members which, incidentally, CO are anyway. I know the current aircraft would be unsuitable, but what if BD served JFK. The potential is definately at NCL for BD and further Star Alliance expansion .

Fail to get my head around any of this ! Firstly I must question if you have much experience of the US and their mentality. If you had ever transited through ATL as opposed JFK or EWR you would not be so naive as to suggest DL as a realistic option. DL would never make a success of a NCL operation, there is absolutely no logical reason as to why DL would opt for Newcastle. Their current financial position dictates that they necessarily need to adopt a risk averse strategy, have little or no experience of provincial UK operations, currently do not have any suitable aircraft available. More fundamentally they don't fly direct to NYC !!.
You need to update yourself on their operations, everything goes through their ATL hub, and thats just one bit too much hassle for a significant proportion of any US market from the North East of England. As for BD then what planet are you on?, by all accounts the airlines management strategy is currently sufficiently disorganised as not to be able to run a p**s up in a brewery !

[Kev 1]

Jet2 AMS

Anyone know how the loads where today on the Amsterdam flights by Jet2?

Thomson flight to Luxor for 2007 is on Weds, anyone know the airline who will be operating it?

Cheers

Kev

[HH6702]

Luxor - Thomsonfly

[transwede]

So will 2007 hold the same based charters as this year, with Luxor so far the only new route?

[GrahamK]

Thessaloniki is coming back for S07, with Thomsonfly.

[Jamesair]

Newcastle will hold the distinction of hosting the last flight ever from the UK to carry the BY flight code and callsign.......NCL - MIR on 30th April

[Devonair]

[QUOTE=skyman771] (Delta) currently do not have any suitable aircraft available. More fundamentally they don't fly direct to NYC !!.
You need to update yourself on their operations, everything goes through their ATL hub, and thats just one bit too much hassle for a significant proportion of any US market from the North East of England.
Delta are commencing a direct NYC service from Manchester and Dublin/Shannon in May. Part of a major expanison of international services from NYC.

[md80forum]

XLA 757

Here is the bird, taxiing Helsinki for ferry to Newcastle, reg OH-LBS.

http://vacc.fi/df/viewtopic.php?t=4995

[skyman771]

[QUOTE=Devonair]

Originally Posted by skyman771

(Delta) Delta are commencing a direct NYC service from Manchester and Dublin/Shannon in May. Part of a major expanison of international services from NYC.

Yes noted that they are to COMMENCE direct NYC, and that may be, but I can't see as to how they would look to NCL prior to ensuring the success of NYC transatlantic operations with more established European destinations. Such a process will presumably take them some years to implement and even then you have to consider why should they be in a better position than AA prior to them pulling out & as to what suitable equipment they have.

[NCL-06]

Originally Posted by md80forum

Here is the bird, taxiing Helsinki for ferry to Newcastle, reg OH-LBS.

http://vacc.fi/df/viewtopic.php?t=4995

so is this the excel aircraft that will be based at NCL over the summer?

[heslop2006]

one of them yes, I think there is also a 737-400?

[HH6702]

newcastleairportdirect.com

anybody noticed the extra paris flights shown when you look.

I type in paris orly and it was saying at the bottom checking jet2
it also has new york shown.

Maybe things to come maybe not.

[NCLRULES]

The airport bosses apparently visited Houston last week to discuss the New York route with CO.

Also, Eastern are apparently using the Jetstream from next week on the LCY service.

[NCL-06]

Originally Posted by NCLRULES

Also, Eastern are apparently using the Jetstream from next week on the LCY service.

is this route not performing aswell as expected for Eastern?