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It has been reported in the travel industry press that Sunworld Holidays are in advanced talks talks to start services from HUY from next winter with an announcement early next year
Anyone know any more about this? Thanks
Anyone know any more about this? Thanks
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Thats good news but what local news station would that be. I heard nothing on Look North or Calendar last night
This is off course fantastic news for HUY. A very good early Christmas present
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Will they manage to fill a 738 from HUY though, that is the question? Especially with FR already at LBA and DSA.
I fear that this may turn out to be an unwise decision from FR.
I fear that this may turn out to be an unwise decision from FR.
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airhumberside - Sunworld Holidays are the irish division of Thomas Cook, they changed names in the UK first to JMC then to Thomas Cook Tour Operations, I have not seen anything in the two main travel papers - TTG and Travel Weekly - about any further flights, apart from the Excel ones that have been announced.
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The original information came from the Travel Trade Press and was posted on another forum if that helps. Apparently they have a programme out of Prestwick including Lapland
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Absolutely marvellous news for Humberside, although I still maintain my opinions of lo-co, the development of the Airport's flight programme is good news for the local economy and allows access to another International airport from HUY, not checked out flight prices from Dublin with Air Fungus but opens up possibilities -obviously not interlining!
Should push pax to over 600,000pa with ease.
Should push pax to over 600,000pa with ease.
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There is a small article in the East Riding Mail (or 'ull delly mell as they say on this side of the river!) that ryanair will start in april,sounds good to me but as Graham k says I'm not sure they will fill it.
If the airport got a grip and replaced the bus shelter they claim is a terminal they may stand a chance,you can't move in there on a thursday if you are lucky there is only about 10 flights!
If the airport got a grip and replaced the bus shelter they claim is a terminal they may stand a chance,you can't move in there on a thursday if you are lucky there is only about 10 flights!
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Nice Jam,
As I've said many times before, I've no axe to grind with HUY, I just don't think the catchment area is big enough to sustain such flights, especially with DSA down the road.
Under the low cost terms & conditions which FR tell airports like HUY they will operate under, FR will not be paying HUY anything for at least 6 months.
After this they will only pay a minimal charge per head and probably very low or no landing fees at all.
Additionally, when HUY to start charging FR, there will almost certainly be a "turn around time penalty clause", whereby if the aircraft isn't turned around within the time specified (usually 20mins), FR don't pay anything at all.
Dublin will be popular, but on the all round trip, thats nearly 200 out of the 280 or so seats that have to be filled EVERY day it operates to make it worthwhile for FR to operate the service, and in the interim, HUY get little or no income from it.
Cosmetically it looks good, but it wouldn't stand the scrutiny of the Dragons Den.
As I've said many times before, I've no axe to grind with HUY, I just don't think the catchment area is big enough to sustain such flights, especially with DSA down the road.
Under the low cost terms & conditions which FR tell airports like HUY they will operate under, FR will not be paying HUY anything for at least 6 months.
After this they will only pay a minimal charge per head and probably very low or no landing fees at all.
Additionally, when HUY to start charging FR, there will almost certainly be a "turn around time penalty clause", whereby if the aircraft isn't turned around within the time specified (usually 20mins), FR don't pay anything at all.
Dublin will be popular, but on the all round trip, thats nearly 200 out of the 280 or so seats that have to be filled EVERY day it operates to make it worthwhile for FR to operate the service, and in the interim, HUY get little or no income from it.
Cosmetically it looks good, but it wouldn't stand the scrutiny of the Dragons Den.
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If you assume that you are going to make little, or even nothing from the passengers flying RYR, then you have to aim to make a profit from ancillary services, like car parks, sarnies, cups of coffee etc.
These facilities are on offer already and no doubt under used at times? You have to maximise 'fleecing' the passengers to make money.
I am sure that there is cash to be had from Brussels to assist this region to grow. Airports generate wealth by having connections to bring business and industry into a growing economy. My guess is that Humberside and Ryanair have tapped into this resource?
Think of the destinations that are now available via Dublin, albeit that you cannot through book. A good friend of mine lives close to Inverness. He books a return flight to Luton, and a return to his destination (via Luton) allowing a good boozing session in the tinminal, just in case his inbound flight is delayed. He reckons that it is cheaper to buy 2 separate returns than drive, then park at Edinburgh/Glasgow if he books early?
These facilities are on offer already and no doubt under used at times? You have to maximise 'fleecing' the passengers to make money.
I am sure that there is cash to be had from Brussels to assist this region to grow. Airports generate wealth by having connections to bring business and industry into a growing economy. My guess is that Humberside and Ryanair have tapped into this resource?
Think of the destinations that are now available via Dublin, albeit that you cannot through book. A good friend of mine lives close to Inverness. He books a return flight to Luton, and a return to his destination (via Luton) allowing a good boozing session in the tinminal, just in case his inbound flight is delayed. He reckons that it is cheaper to buy 2 separate returns than drive, then park at Edinburgh/Glasgow if he books early?
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It seems that HUY as got a lo co at last. Ryan Air have announced a new route to Dublin that being HUY http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/news....=rte-en-211205 Although I do wonder if these will be affected by the late deliveries of the 737-800 from boeing
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This is excellent news!
Not a moment too soon!
I am however, also a little concerned as to whether they will be able to get an acceptable return on these flights. 189 is a lot to fill every day. However, if BOH, MME and ABZ can work with a -200, with eventual upgrading to a -800, factoring in the much reduced operating costs of the newer model, maybe HUY can work aswell. I would have gone in with a mon, wed, fri, sat, sun service to start with.
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Not a moment too soon!
I am however, also a little concerned as to whether they will be able to get an acceptable return on these flights. 189 is a lot to fill every day. However, if BOH, MME and ABZ can work with a -200, with eventual upgrading to a -800, factoring in the much reduced operating costs of the newer model, maybe HUY can work aswell. I would have gone in with a mon, wed, fri, sat, sun service to start with.
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The 737 - 200 is defunct for FR after December because they have sold all this stock and the pilots rating ceases then having all been rated now on the -800 which is why they are estimating some 200 flights a month cancelled until Boeing get the orders fulfilled
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Got to agree with Buster the Bear on this.
Lo-co's expect free this that and the other, woe any airport who thinks they will make any money out of the aircraft (landing fees and so forth), it is all in the car parking and shops. Most Lo-co pax seem to use it for business or short stays and most tend to drive to the airportt they use to depart because the flight is so cheap. So by definition more car park revenue. 189 seats and say 40 of the pax drive and stay for a weekend car parking at Humberside is what?... £10 a day, that is £30 a person/car so £1,200 daily...it soon mounts up. Also abite to eat in the restaurant plus a beer coz they know the ones on the plane cost a fortune, quick bit of duty paid (Gin, Scotch etc coz what you get abroad is not the same!!) and yes lo-co does make money for the airport, but they have to get it right; additional parking, apron terminal works, all of which are huge investments -else disaster looms. We know Ryanair will only run as long as a route works so an airport would look darn stupid spending millions just for the lo-co to pull the plug after 6 months, someting I am sure will not happen at HUY as long as they can turn 'em round in 20 minutes!!!
Lo-co's expect free this that and the other, woe any airport who thinks they will make any money out of the aircraft (landing fees and so forth), it is all in the car parking and shops. Most Lo-co pax seem to use it for business or short stays and most tend to drive to the airportt they use to depart because the flight is so cheap. So by definition more car park revenue. 189 seats and say 40 of the pax drive and stay for a weekend car parking at Humberside is what?... £10 a day, that is £30 a person/car so £1,200 daily...it soon mounts up. Also abite to eat in the restaurant plus a beer coz they know the ones on the plane cost a fortune, quick bit of duty paid (Gin, Scotch etc coz what you get abroad is not the same!!) and yes lo-co does make money for the airport, but they have to get it right; additional parking, apron terminal works, all of which are huge investments -else disaster looms. We know Ryanair will only run as long as a route works so an airport would look darn stupid spending millions just for the lo-co to pull the plug after 6 months, someting I am sure will not happen at HUY as long as they can turn 'em round in 20 minutes!!!
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It is brilliant news for HUY and i realy hope it works. Ive booked my tickets.
In some news articles the director of scheduled revenue for FR has said that they wioll be looking at opening up more routes from HUY if the DUB does well.
It has every reason to. Look how well the AMS does and FR are a major carrier of which HUY hasnt ever seen....
I hope theyve done their homework.
In some news articles the director of scheduled revenue for FR has said that they wioll be looking at opening up more routes from HUY if the DUB does well.
It has every reason to. Look how well the AMS does and FR are a major carrier of which HUY hasnt ever seen....
I hope theyve done their homework.
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I guess Ryanair and the Manchester Airport Group have done some kind of group deal?:
MAN: new service to SNN
EMA: new base
HUY: new service to DUB
BOH: nothing extra as yet but existing 3 routes.
MAN: new service to SNN
EMA: new base
HUY: new service to DUB
BOH: nothing extra as yet but existing 3 routes.
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I guess Ryanair and the Manchester Airport Group have done some kind of group deal?:
Talks with airlines are rumoured to be held at group level so hopefuly there may be more in store for HUY but for the time being i hope all goes well for the first lo-co operator at HUY