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Originally Posted by Hotel Uniform Yankee
Coupled with the rumours DSA have made KLM an offer they can't refuse, it could be quiet winter at HUY.
There is a market from the Humber region to AMS. Therefore Im sure KLM could serve both HUY and DSA. KLM are going to have annoyed, high yielding passengers if they moved to DSA. And I dont think KLM would want that
And if DSA have made KLM an offer they cant refuse, I hope HUY I have made one back. Its our most important service. Loose it and the airport will be half drowned. KLM to AMS offers worldwide connections and regular year round traffic.
KLM leaving a route served constantly for over 30 years in favour of a brand new development in an area they pulled out from a few years ago?? If anything they will serve both. Stats show that less than 1% of the South Yorkshire travellers used HUY as a departure airport pre DSA, that suggests to me most of KLM's pax are from the Humber area.
KLM would be blatantly stupid to pull that service, if rumours are true then they will use BOTH HUY and DSA.
KLM would be blatantly stupid to pull that service, if rumours are true then they will use BOTH HUY and DSA.
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My thoughts also.
Probably the whole rumour thought up by some DSA supporter, who are obviously perterbed by the fact they aint half the big player they thought they were going to be
Its funny - they really must be desperate
My thoughts also.
Probably the whole rumour thought up by some DSA supporter, who are obviously perterbed by the fact they aint half the big player they thought they were going to be
Its funny - they really must be desperate
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And if there is truth to it: then its DSA that must be desperate as they are obviously perterbed by the fact they aint half the big player they thought they were going to be.
Why dont they go out and try attract some more domestic routes ? cos the markets already saturated, thats why.
Thia airport was destined to be not hal the success that it was cracked upto be and now the chickens are coming home to roost. They have even got thomson nicking flights off LBA - the whole operation smacks of desperation.
And if there is truth to it: then its DSA that must be desperate as they are obviously perterbed by the fact they aint half the big player they thought they were going to be.
Why dont they go out and try attract some more domestic routes ? cos the markets already saturated, thats why.
Thia airport was destined to be not hal the success that it was cracked upto be and now the chickens are coming home to roost. They have even got thomson nicking flights off LBA - the whole operation smacks of desperation.
I dont know, i still think KLM may be announcing something at DSA soon but if so it will NOT be to the detriment of HUY. I hear they believe the yields at HUY are higher than they were at SZD so they will be treading lightly at DSA at first.
I do agree that the domestic market is saturated BUT when DSA was concieved it was because 90% of the yorkshire and Humber pax left the area to catch a flight. This shows there is ample room for all to expand without stepping on each others toes too much. If DSA are trying to target HUY and not look at MAN (or even the london airports) then i would suggest that something has gone seriously wrong for them.
I do agree that the domestic market is saturated BUT when DSA was concieved it was because 90% of the yorkshire and Humber pax left the area to catch a flight. This shows there is ample room for all to expand without stepping on each others toes too much. If DSA are trying to target HUY and not look at MAN (or even the london airports) then i would suggest that something has gone seriously wrong for them.
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Dont know why anyone would want to go to humberside now Robin hood is up and running, unless there is a deal on the landing fees, I know eastern dont pay any good old Richard Lake can strike a good deal, the price for GA landing fees has doubled in the last 6 months, cant see training lasting at the schools there, 10 touch and go's is going to cost 60 quid!!
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This is getting tiresome and ill-informed. First Sheffield IS part of the DSA catchment area unless by some chance you think only people from within ten miles of any airport use that airport.
Second, can I just ask whether the original source of this rumour said that DSA was trying to lure KLM AWAY from HUY or just approaching them about flights from DSA, which from personal experience talking to people around here is what they want for travelling to places further afield via Amsterdam, thus sparking a mad paranoia among certain, though not all HUY supporters. Most seem to think that there is room in the market for both airports, especially if it is true that in actual fact few travellers from the DSA catchment use the HUY flights. And I would imagine that a recent on-line business survey done by DSA would be being used as evidence.
And third I'm getting a little bit ticked off at all the false DSA sniping. Pax figures and additional flights would seem to imply that the airport has been quite a success, and as I've said before is just good at doing business, NOT desperate.
As for the domestic market being saturated, well o.k but what with? Plenty of people would use DSA for domestic services, but how easy are they to come by for new airports?
And fourth, getting back to HUY, as a proud DSA supporter I am glad that if you look on the unofficial website there is very little sniping at HUY. Plenty of us have said we would like to see KLM at DSA, but NOT at the expense of HUY - as I'm sure Airhumberside can testify.
Tim
Second, can I just ask whether the original source of this rumour said that DSA was trying to lure KLM AWAY from HUY or just approaching them about flights from DSA, which from personal experience talking to people around here is what they want for travelling to places further afield via Amsterdam, thus sparking a mad paranoia among certain, though not all HUY supporters. Most seem to think that there is room in the market for both airports, especially if it is true that in actual fact few travellers from the DSA catchment use the HUY flights. And I would imagine that a recent on-line business survey done by DSA would be being used as evidence.
And third I'm getting a little bit ticked off at all the false DSA sniping. Pax figures and additional flights would seem to imply that the airport has been quite a success, and as I've said before is just good at doing business, NOT desperate.
As for the domestic market being saturated, well o.k but what with? Plenty of people would use DSA for domestic services, but how easy are they to come by for new airports?
And fourth, getting back to HUY, as a proud DSA supporter I am glad that if you look on the unofficial website there is very little sniping at HUY. Plenty of us have said we would like to see KLM at DSA, but NOT at the expense of HUY - as I'm sure Airhumberside can testify.
Tim
Dont know why anyone would want to go to humberside now Robin hood is up and running, unless there is a deal on the landing fees, I know eastern dont pay any good old Richard Lake can strike a good deal, the price for GA landing fees has doubled in the last 6 months, cant see training lasting at the schools there, 10 touch and go's is going to cost 60 quid!!
Im unsure as to the GA prices, they have been praised for years on their prices compared to similar facilities.
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Can't agree more. What we have from Hull to Sheffield is two airports, both adding extra flights and giving us more choice......and we respond by sniping.
For a LBA supporter to come on a HUY thread, soley to illicit anti DSA feeling and to denigrate DSA is a sad state of affairs.
I personally would have my concerns about DSA if HUY was going down because of it. What we have seen effectively are more flights from HUY, and new flights from DSA.
I say BRING IT ON and long may it continue. HUY first for me every time.....but I've also travelled the short journey to DSA......Great isn't it.....and it will get better. I'd go even further and introduce a shuttle coach service between the two airports. Don't forget HUY is a gateway to the world.
Can't agree more. What we have from Hull to Sheffield is two airports, both adding extra flights and giving us more choice......and we respond by sniping.
For a LBA supporter to come on a HUY thread, soley to illicit anti DSA feeling and to denigrate DSA is a sad state of affairs.
I personally would have my concerns about DSA if HUY was going down because of it. What we have seen effectively are more flights from HUY, and new flights from DSA.
I say BRING IT ON and long may it continue. HUY first for me every time.....but I've also travelled the short journey to DSA......Great isn't it.....and it will get better. I'd go even further and introduce a shuttle coach service between the two airports. Don't forget HUY is a gateway to the world.
I could understand the sniping some time back when people were claiming DSA to be coming in and stealing business, when we argued back that it would boost HUY etc etc..... at the end of the day our point is proven! Im sure HUY is favorite every time for Hull Grimsby and the majority of lincolnshire people, as DSA will be to south yorks! We are getting choice, that is whats important, and indications that FR are doing well at both HUY and DSA suggest there could be proven demand at HUY of its own, as there will be in donny.
I look forward to the day when i can get on a flight to new york from DSA or maybe fancy a long weekend in palma and pop to HUY for aow fares flight.
I look forward to the day when i can get on a flight to new york from DSA or maybe fancy a long weekend in palma and pop to HUY for aow fares flight.
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super flight from Humberside
XL to Paphos
super flight to Cyprus from Humberside.
A joy to be parked within half an hour from home.
Cabin crew were mostly first timers but had 'enthusiasm and smiles'
That surely made up for their lack of experience.
Well done XL
Well done Humberside
super flight to Cyprus from Humberside.
A joy to be parked within half an hour from home.
Cabin crew were mostly first timers but had 'enthusiasm and smiles'
That surely made up for their lack of experience.
Well done XL
Well done Humberside
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what your forgetting is that anything west of Scunthorpe/in Lincoln/Gainsborough or thereabouts is DSA territory and the passengers vote with their feet and use Doncaster.
Huy has its uses, but, other than Dublin, Amsterdam and Aberdeen, they never will succeed with low cost flights or scheduled.
They do very well with charter flights, but its only a matter of time before DSA are in a position to offer significantly better discounts and DSA have acheived better pax figures than HUY in the first year of their operation than HUY HUY ever have in 35 years.
Theres always something happening with B737 or larger aircraft at DSA, and they are already expanding the car parking and the terminal will grow next year to cater for new growth, whereas I fear that HUY will continue to bumble along and gradually lose the majority of the revenue earning trade.
A sad reflection on HUY management who could have done a lot better.
what your forgetting is that anything west of Scunthorpe/in Lincoln/Gainsborough or thereabouts is DSA territory and the passengers vote with their feet and use Doncaster.
Huy has its uses, but, other than Dublin, Amsterdam and Aberdeen, they never will succeed with low cost flights or scheduled.
They do very well with charter flights, but its only a matter of time before DSA are in a position to offer significantly better discounts and DSA have acheived better pax figures than HUY in the first year of their operation than HUY HUY ever have in 35 years.
Theres always something happening with B737 or larger aircraft at DSA, and they are already expanding the car parking and the terminal will grow next year to cater for new growth, whereas I fear that HUY will continue to bumble along and gradually lose the majority of the revenue earning trade.
A sad reflection on HUY management who could have done a lot better.
