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Old 14th Feb 2006, 05:53
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The Caribbean Airways 747 was operated by Cargolux on behalf of.
The Caribbean Airways flight was a Thomson Holidays sub charter flying passengers to some Mediterranean hot spot. I can’t remember the reason but it was carrying passengers from what should have been two Britannia flights. Well that’s how I remember the event from the 80’s
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Maybe this is a question for SLF, but flew threw LTN this morning (EZY013 to EDI), and Easy was in all kinds of mess on landside ... any reasons why?

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Snoop LTN memories

LX-KCV operated to / from FAO with a 767 and 737 load on Behalf of Britannia
I have photos of it taxying up the hill past the old speccies with "Carribbean Airways, the National Airline of Barbados" titles.

Also with regards the block paving re-arrangement, that was on G-MONM operating a ZB LTN-MAH scheduled service. One of the holes in the horizontal stab was big enough to put your head in. The aircraft operated to MAH and the extent of the damage was only noticed on the ground - I remember it well!! I think it was a previous CKT L1011 movement that it was suggested had unsettled the block paving and NM caught the brunt of it when the blocks were sucked up in the jet blast and fired backwards at a rate of knots as it started its t/o roll.
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LX-KCV operated to / from FAO with a 767 and 737 load on Behalf of Britannia
I have photos of it taxying up the hill past the old speccies with "Carribbean Airways, the National Airline of Barbados" titles.
Thanks G-AZUK. It's nice to know I have a few brain cells still in working order.
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Here is a little reminder of the days when we could just walk out on the ramp at LTN (with care!) and take a few photos.

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Those were the days http://www.bac1-11jet.co.uk/images/2...ML%20Luton.jpg
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Constellations

The photo

Is it possible to see the reg on the nearest Connie?

Could be the original Euravia fleet in '62 (RVP,RXE,HEN)

None in Skyways colours but if any aircraft is not one of these three then it must be later (most Skyways aircraft painted in Euravia colours in '63 I think)

In '64 or 65 one of the Euravia Connie's was painted into Skyways colurs (RXE I think)

The Catair Super Connie's- was this 28 Feb '71, rugby charters? I only remember one Super Connie then though.
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The photo has a title, visible under 'properties': "2CatairConstellations1972.jpg".

That does rather give the game away!
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No they were Catair Connies and visiting with various other goodies such as
Trans Union DC-6/ EAS Heralds and various Daks etc.
They were carrying French Rugby supporters. I was the ramp man doing the load sheets for the Connies!
As far as I know it was the last ever visit by a Connie/s. Even by those days standards it was very rare to see two together at one time in this country.
I will post the regs later if I can still find them amongst the old dusty books in the attic!

(Regs were F-BRAD and F-BHMI)

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Euravia Connie Photo

The picture of the Euravia Connies could have been taken as early as 1962. They took delivery of three ex El Al machines early in that year (G-ARVP was the first on 12th April followed by G-AHEN at the end of April and G-ARXE in May) all in Euravia colours, although G-ARXE was painted into Skyways colours in October 1962. The three ex Skyways machines (G-ALAK, G-ALAL & G-ANUR) acquired in October 1962 remained in Skyways colours (G-ANUR was painted into Euravia colours early in 1964).

Hello, this is my first contribution to PPRUNE even though I have been an avid reader (of anything to do with Luton Airport !) for some time but I couldnt resist a reply on this thread.

I have a very large (and concise) database on all things to do with aircraft movements, based aircraft and airlines and the airport itself from 1937 until 1999 (as my title of Luton Anorak suggests it's a bit of a hobby ).

If anybody needs any historic info or might want to contribute some please send me a PM.
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Old 15th Feb 2006, 12:42
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Those were the days
That's when the local NIMBYs such as LADACAN, PAIN, ARSE*, etc., really had something to complain about! Court Line & Dan Air 1-11s boring in and out all day and all night long, turning the air rancid combined with endless streams of coaches full of punters crawling up and down the Cutenhoe Road...



* = Action to Restore a Silent Environment.

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Old 15th Feb 2006, 15:15
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Originally Posted by LTNman
I see the trees are coming down along the A505. This should mean that the Government has approved the funding and work on the dual carriageway into the airport will start in June. I will confirm this when I get an email from the ELC team.
Heard on good authority that an announcement on goverment funding for work on the dual carriageway into the airport is expected this week, and is believed to be positive. Assuming approval is given, work will start 1 June and will be completed in March 2006.
Getting to the airport from the M1 during the period of construction is likely to prove difficult since M1 widening to four lanes also starts next month.
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An equally reliable 'mole' says that LLAO's parent company (ACDL) is stalling on additional expenditure for the existing site as it believes this would be unnecessary and wasted if the new runway and airport is approved. It is rumoured that the local management is frustrated by this attitude because it has recognised that the Airport in its present form cannot cope with much more business (pax or based aircraft) as the terminal is already reaching its design capacity, and since easyJet suddenly announced additional based aircraft and further new routes, there will be insufficient stands available at peak times.

This situation is not helped by the recent and imminent departure of some of LLAO's key senior management people.

Part of the problem is allegedly, the Spanish end not fully appreciating the protracted and difficult UK planning process which - to be successful - requires rather more than just a foreign holiday plus a 'bung' in the direction of the responsible council officials.

At the same time, Luton Borough Council (concerned about a 'new' airport being developed in Herts i.e. outside its boundaries) is apparently throwing its weight behind an alternative proposal to extend the existing runway by 500 metres together with the construction of full-length parallel taxiways.

It's possible that ACDL/LLAO may on the back of this, be able to negotiate an extension to the 30-year Concession thereby making it more financially viable for them.

Interesting times ahead...


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Old 15th Feb 2006, 20:32
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Spent another hour tonight watching the crew of the tow truck in action in the drop off area. One hour’s work resulted in one £35 fine negotiated down from £50 and 2 £150 tow aways for drivers who left their cars unattended. All three victims were Poles. £335 for an hours work is good going but apart from keeping the disabled bays free from traffic they didn’t seem that interested in stopping cars from parking up as their drivers waited for passengers.

Looking at the state of other cars carrying Polish number plates I do wonder how many of them are insured. I also doubt many of them would pass a MOT.
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Old 15th Feb 2006, 20:49
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Heard on good authority that an announcement on goverment funding for work on the dual carriageway into the airport is expected this week, and is believed to be positive.
Well I never got a reply to my email from the ELC team. Maybe they have figured out that they were being quoted on PPRUNE. According to my last reply from them tree clearance work would only start after funding was approved. Seeing that the trees are now coming down should mean that they have got the funding.

Here is a link to a PDF file about what is going to happen. http://www.luton.gov.uk/Media%20Libr...nformation.pdf What is not going to happen is the 180 degree bus exit onto the Lower Harpenden Rd as this was rejected on environmental grounds as too many trees would have been chopped down.
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Grrr

Ebenezer, your comments are hardly surprising, the airport needs to be FINALLY cut from mummy's apron strings!
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An equally reliable 'mole' says that LLAO's parent company (ACDL) is stalling on additional expenditure for the existing site as it believes this would be unnecessary and wasted if the new runway and airport is approved.
So the full signs would go up next year then with Luton turning away business for the following 5 years. The problem is more likely to be the limited additional income generated on the capital invested for such a short period while the new terminal is being built. Once a new terminal is constructed then I would assume that at least half of the passengers using the present terminal would move to the new terminal so the additional build would no longer be needed.

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In the main terminal they are also to introduce atleast 5-10 more check in desks due to more capacity, they will do this by removing the special items desk which is next to the ryanair check in desks
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In the main terminal they are also to introduce atleast 5-10 more check in desks due to more capacity, they will do this by removing the special items desk which is next to the ryanair check in desks

Doubt you would fit 5-10 desks in that space as there is also a staff staircase in that area. Might get 4 desks in at a pinch.
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I have it from a very high official at the airport, sposed to be completed in may cant see it somehow, at max i could see 4 or 5 not 10 though
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