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BBD were extremely serious about ME sales, they were offering some impressive discounts, excellent delivery schedules and even went as far as to re-engine the CRJ700 to compete in the ME market.
Judging by the letters and phonecalls, Ottawa supports them 100%.
However they really need to do something about their marketing people!
Airmephis... its a rumor network my friend... I cant reveal sources!
Mutt.
BBD were extremely serious about ME sales, they were offering some impressive discounts, excellent delivery schedules and even went as far as to re-engine the CRJ700 to compete in the ME market.
Judging by the letters and phonecalls, Ottawa supports them 100%.
However they really need to do something about their marketing people!
Airmephis... its a rumor network my friend... I cant reveal sources!
Mutt.
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mutt, it seems your comments about BBD are completely contradictory to my comments;
I said:
"The problem Bombardier faces are:
1) their aircraft are more expensive
2) they are unwilling to negotiate delivery slots.
3) Embraer economics are better than Bombardiar. The former have developed the ERJ-145 XR specifically for "hot and high" conditions (like in ME)"
You said:
"BBD were extremely serious about ME sales, they were offering some impressive discounts, excellent delivery schedules and even went as far as to re-engine the CRJ700 to compete in the ME market."
I said:
"The problem Bombardier faces are:
1) their aircraft are more expensive
2) they are unwilling to negotiate delivery slots.
3) Embraer economics are better than Bombardiar. The former have developed the ERJ-145 XR specifically for "hot and high" conditions (like in ME)"
You said:
"BBD were extremely serious about ME sales, they were offering some impressive discounts, excellent delivery schedules and even went as far as to re-engine the CRJ700 to compete in the ME market."
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it seems your comments about BBD are completely contradictory to my comments
Sorry about that but have you tried to buy aircraft from BBD lately? I'm talking about the CRJ700/900 series of aircraft, it might be different for the CRJ200.
Mutt.
Sorry about that but have you tried to buy aircraft from BBD lately? I'm talking about the CRJ700/900 series of aircraft, it might be different for the CRJ200.
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"Sorry about that but have you tried to buy aircraft from BBD lately?"
No, but I would if I had the money...lol
Seriously though, I just found those three points in article on www.zawya.com and they tend to be very reliable. They didn't state a specific model (whether CRJ200/700/900) but were referring to BBD in general.
No, but I would if I had the money...lol
Seriously though, I just found those three points in article on www.zawya.com and they tend to be very reliable. They didn't state a specific model (whether CRJ200/700/900) but were referring to BBD in general.
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I flew with Egyptair in May on LHR-CAI(B777), CAI-LXR(A320) and LXR-LHR(A300). TBH I wasn't expecting much after reading alot of negative reviews but was quite suprised. First 2 flights departed/arrived on time, last flight departed @1 hour late and no info was given until 1/2 hour after scheduled departure time. A300 looked very worn(as did 777/320 considering their age) and steward wasn't seated when we started t/o roll. IFE basic but food ok for an airline meal. Seat comfort/legroom quite good on B777 not so great on A300; cabin crew polite/efficient.
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Egyptair are in the middle of a major restructuring programme since May 2004. This involves an improvement of their services, fleet and ground services.
With the renewal of T1 in CAI (company's base terminal) in 2004 the ground service has been much improved and the opening of T1's Arrival Hall 3 a couple of months ago has been further enhanced this.
As for onboard service, the airline has very generous seat pitch in Y and they have amongst the highst cabin crew to passenger ratios of any airlines. The company is about to sell 40% of their inflight service arm (a first for the airline) which should see the launch of a new cabin (F/C/Y) in terms of seats and meal options. The latter is expected to be launched at the end of 2006.
As for the fleet. At the moment the airline is recieving brand new A332s which are replacing the ageing AB6 fleet. The 4th A332 arrived 3 weeks ago and the remaining 3 will arrive before February 2006 when all the A300s (passenger versions) will be removed. The A330s have been configured without F class (a first on their long haul aircraft) but with a larger and enhanced Business (Horus) cabin.
The airline is recieving a 13th A320 next month which is an ex-Shorouk Air machine (Shorouk were the charter subsidiary of the airline before they went under in 2003). In addition they are expected to recieve 4 new A320s next year.
Last month the airline also signed a contract with Boeing for 12 B738s (6 firm, 6 option) for delivery starting next summer.
As for safety, the airline has really cleaned up their act following the high profile incident in JKF back in 1999. The cause is still being debated between the Egyptian and US authorities.
With the renewal of T1 in CAI (company's base terminal) in 2004 the ground service has been much improved and the opening of T1's Arrival Hall 3 a couple of months ago has been further enhanced this.
As for onboard service, the airline has very generous seat pitch in Y and they have amongst the highst cabin crew to passenger ratios of any airlines. The company is about to sell 40% of their inflight service arm (a first for the airline) which should see the launch of a new cabin (F/C/Y) in terms of seats and meal options. The latter is expected to be launched at the end of 2006.
As for the fleet. At the moment the airline is recieving brand new A332s which are replacing the ageing AB6 fleet. The 4th A332 arrived 3 weeks ago and the remaining 3 will arrive before February 2006 when all the A300s (passenger versions) will be removed. The A330s have been configured without F class (a first on their long haul aircraft) but with a larger and enhanced Business (Horus) cabin.
The airline is recieving a 13th A320 next month which is an ex-Shorouk Air machine (Shorouk were the charter subsidiary of the airline before they went under in 2003). In addition they are expected to recieve 4 new A320s next year.
Last month the airline also signed a contract with Boeing for 12 B738s (6 firm, 6 option) for delivery starting next summer.
As for safety, the airline has really cleaned up their act following the high profile incident in JKF back in 1999. The cause is still being debated between the Egyptian and US authorities.
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Hey G-CPTN,
I fly Egypt air quite often but only when in Egypt going on internal flights, as DC10FAN said the airbus's look very old and shabby and the you have little leg room, the 777s are grand though. I have flown Egypt air from London to Cairo before and I will definitely not be doing it again, the 5 hours on the plane are hard and sometimes things seem rushed like when having your meal they seem to be around about 5 minutes after they have given them out to see if anyone is finished. The cabin crew are fine really, they can sometimes be moody but that's like every airline. As DC10FAN probably knows the airbus's are very very very hot as the air conditioning is never turned on full, and I have flown on their airbus's about 6 times all the times were very hot. The 777 is fine though although can be hot on the long haul flights. The seats are ok the food is ok and the service is ok. Personally I wouldn't choose EgyptAir for any flight longer than 2 hours but for internal flights around Egypt they are fine. Hope that can help
I fly Egypt air quite often but only when in Egypt going on internal flights, as DC10FAN said the airbus's look very old and shabby and the you have little leg room, the 777s are grand though. I have flown Egypt air from London to Cairo before and I will definitely not be doing it again, the 5 hours on the plane are hard and sometimes things seem rushed like when having your meal they seem to be around about 5 minutes after they have given them out to see if anyone is finished. The cabin crew are fine really, they can sometimes be moody but that's like every airline. As DC10FAN probably knows the airbus's are very very very hot as the air conditioning is never turned on full, and I have flown on their airbus's about 6 times all the times were very hot. The 777 is fine though although can be hot on the long haul flights. The seats are ok the food is ok and the service is ok. Personally I wouldn't choose EgyptAir for any flight longer than 2 hours but for internal flights around Egypt they are fine. Hope that can help
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hafez, I fly Egyptair on a very regular basis on most of their routes and I would disagree with you regarding it being just 'ok' (but off course you are entitled to your opinion). They're not a top notch airline (yet) but they are improving by the day (compare them now to what they were just 18 months ago).
The Airbus fleet consists of 12 A320s and 2 A321s (the other 2 A321s have been wet leased to subsidiary Air Cairo). 7 A320s were delivered back in 91/92, while a further 5 were delivered in 2003 with upgraded cabins and larger C class. And as I said a few more A320s are arriving over the next 12 months.
Starting from next summer their subsidiary, Air Cairo (who currently operate charter flights), will begin to take over Egyptair's domestic and selected regional services as the first of upto 8 brand new A318s (6 firm + 2 options) are delivered.
With the Egyptian authorities finally considering opening up the scheduled market to privates Egyptian airlines, we'll see Egyptair improve even further as they face stiffer competition on their home turf.
p.s. In my many years of experience with Egyptair I have only experienced a hot cabin (where the air conditioning was too low) back in 1988 on a B762 from CAI to JED
The Airbus fleet consists of 12 A320s and 2 A321s (the other 2 A321s have been wet leased to subsidiary Air Cairo). 7 A320s were delivered back in 91/92, while a further 5 were delivered in 2003 with upgraded cabins and larger C class. And as I said a few more A320s are arriving over the next 12 months.
Starting from next summer their subsidiary, Air Cairo (who currently operate charter flights), will begin to take over Egyptair's domestic and selected regional services as the first of upto 8 brand new A318s (6 firm + 2 options) are delivered.
With the Egyptian authorities finally considering opening up the scheduled market to privates Egyptian airlines, we'll see Egyptair improve even further as they face stiffer competition on their home turf.
p.s. In my many years of experience with Egyptair I have only experienced a hot cabin (where the air conditioning was too low) back in 1988 on a B762 from CAI to JED
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I have to say i am very picky on airlines alright, I dislike aer lingus too while other people think its great, i think i have just been spoilt flying BA, Virgin and Emirates to most places. It is usually on the sharm route that i find it very hot in the cabin, when going to luxor it isnt as bad and the same with the Hurgahda route but going to sharm is always very hot. Looking forward to trying Air Cairo next summer if i travel to Sharm or Hurgahda.
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Hafez,
I did forget to mention that the A300 cabin was far too hot in-flight; B777 and A320 were fine though.
Airmemphis,
I flew ASW-ABS on a DC9 of Air Memphis in May; interesting flight with fighter-like approach at Abu Simbel.
I did forget to mention that the A300 cabin was far too hot in-flight; B777 and A320 were fine though.
Airmemphis,
I flew ASW-ABS on a DC9 of Air Memphis in May; interesting flight with fighter-like approach at Abu Simbel.
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Egyptair increases MAD and BCN
Egyptair hass increased their flights to Spain this summer (08) , there will be a daily flight to Madrid (instead of five flights weekly), and four weekly flights to Barcelona (instead of three), in addition to two weekly flights to Lisbon; with a total number of 13 weekly flights to the region of Spain and Portugal .
Last year Egyptair managed to transport (57,691) passengers between Spain and Egypt, with a 33% increase in comparison to 2006.
Last year Egyptair managed to transport (57,691) passengers between Spain and Egypt, with a 33% increase in comparison to 2006.
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Check your routing and see if they identify the equipment. A lot of Egyptair's long haul airframes might be described as 'veterans'. Mechanically solid so no issues there, but the interiors are not what you'd necessarily expect.
Example: my wife and I flew CAI-BKK for our honeymoon on what we had hoped was a fairly modern B777. Lets just say we're really glad we booked business class otherwise it might have been a very uncomfortable flight.
Example: my wife and I flew CAI-BKK for our honeymoon on what we had hoped was a fairly modern B777. Lets just say we're really glad we booked business class otherwise it might have been a very uncomfortable flight.
