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Old 14th Aug 2005, 10:48
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when you are traveling on long haul then £400 for 8 people is hardly worth adding another 5-6 hours and plane change to your already long journey
The problem with your argument is that Swefly are filling their aircraft. Also not everyone wants to travel from Manchester or Heathrow. The service also doesn’t add 5 or 6 hours to the journey, as flights to Lahore would pass Sweden anyway.

Now whose talking out of their a*se
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Old 14th Aug 2005, 18:50
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I guess it would be worth checking your facts!!!Mr wise guy...by fly over Sweden you are adding a 90nM deviation to your flight path!!!
normally PIA flights take less than 7hours and 45minutes to fly to Lahore from LHR...
While here is the timetable for swefly
L E E D S – L A H O R E
Flight Dep Arr
WV 443/921 16:40* 07:15
this is taken from their publised timetable...Just do Maths now(it should less than GCSE level maths!!!)
Secondly I was commenting about remarks about madrasa that by saying that people are going to donate that money to madrasa or implying anything of that sort is sure talking from A*SE...
No hard feelings but your comments are enough to ofend many people...
PS:go to luton website and see the route map yourself it shows the deviation quite nicely!!!!the shortest way would be straight and not the travel they are showing.....

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Old 14th Aug 2005, 19:16
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Grrr

Depart 16:40 local (Leeds time)
Arrive 07:15 local (Lahore time)

14 Hours 55 min - minus time zone difference which is I think 4 hours? So I make it 10 hours 55 min?

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Old 15th Aug 2005, 15:09
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Thanks Buster the Bear...and i rest my case!!!!
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Old 15th Aug 2005, 16:06
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Grrr

But if you fly PIA, you miss out on that major international hub known as Skavsta!

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Old 15th Aug 2005, 18:13
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yup thats true!!!not only you miss that but alot more else....say customer services!!!
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Old 15th Aug 2005, 18:22
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Grrr

The MD80 from Luton seems pretty full and the competition is even stronger from Heathrow 35 miles down the road. Despite the plane change and the extended route, folk are flying with SweFly.

Living close to Luton I would rather the extended route than the horried journey along the M1 and M25, then park remote in a neighbouring county, bus to the terminal and then the throngs of passengers at Heathrow.

Certainly if I want to go from my Bear Palace to Lahore, there would be little difference in travelling time? I may even shed a few pounds of excess blubber treking to the gate!

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Old 15th Aug 2005, 18:28
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So PIA will be 'kacking' their pants with the strong possibility of a Leeds-Islamabad service.
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Old 15th Aug 2005, 18:53
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What about airmashriq????they were talking about starting from LTN but now they are saying a possible start date in dec....
any news on that????
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Old 15th Aug 2005, 19:17
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Blimey, Air Mashriq and Tara Airways, get laying the concrete to park them!

Islamabad-Leeds. Six months ago, who would of thought a Leeds-Lahore service would happen?

Mashriq is news to me, but considering the demand, anything is possible, web site dates back to 2003, so not a lot has happened recently?

Air Mashriq Plc
Mayfair House, 14-18 Heddon Street
London, W1B 4DA
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Record updated date: 2004-09-23 04:04:21
Record created date: 2003-12-19
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BA Connect will axe IOM from the winter timetable
If all the airlines that started services from LTN over the past 2-3 years had continued, it seems likely that LTN would now be seeing 10.5M to 11M annual passengers: for example, Happag Lloyd Express, Volare, Helvetic, Styrian Spirit, Air Turquois and SweFly. One of the main factors that seems to blight LTN in its pursuit of 'greatness' must be that unlike Heathrow, Gatwick, Birmingham, Manchester, Southampton and even to an extent, Stansted, it offers no interlining and so every schedule service passenger using the Airport is either terminating/originating or has to make their own connection arrangements. Given the proportion of interlining traffic at these other airports (with the notable exception of Stansted) it's hardly surprising that the routes involved cannot generate the load factors necessary to support the operating costs.

The continued increase in the price of oil and therefore, fuel must also be putting many 'low-cost' routes under pressure because the break-even load factors on many must be nearing 90% which means that their profitability is shrinking by the day. MoL's statement that he RYR won't levy a fuel surcharge until a barrel of oil costs $100 belies the fact that fares have crept up anyway. And if oil ever does reach this figure it'll become an academic discussion because the effect on the World economy and so business and leisure air travel will see route contraction almost as breath-taking as recent expansion, probably followed by airline bankruptcies that'll make the loss of SABENA and Swissair, and the current situation in the US look like a children's tea party.
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