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Old 20th May 2005, 18:28
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Have been told that a advert as been spotted in a trade magazine giving a starting date of 17th June.This is for both the LBA-Lahore and LTN-Lahore at a starting price from £205.
Don't know which trade mag.I hope it does start and is a success.

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Swefly, Flying Swede, landed in Lahore on the 20th, Today 3 minutes early on their first Stockholm Lahore flight.

In the first day tickets went on sale for the Luton flight they sold 330 tickets.

The Flights are full or near full on their early flights in June when they goto 6 flights per week.

At the welcome party tonight in Lahore the comments were very positive from the local community, as Swefly today became the first European Airline to fly into Lahore.

I look forward to carrying the first passengers out of LBA, They will receive a very warm welcome from the crew.

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I'm confused??? I thought the LTN flight was to start yesterday? the SweFly website still says Luton-Nykopping-Lahore from 19 May, yet unless i was asleep-no flight from LTN?

I understand WV have been unable to source an MD80 at the moment for the feeder flights?

Still is interesting to note that LBA management know nothing of this proposed operation!!

Hopefully I am wrong, but it's all looks a bit dubious to me!
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Old 20th May 2005, 19:37
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LONDON: The trade and business activities between Pakistani and Swedish
business communities will increase with the launch of the Swefly flights
from the UK to Lahore via Stockholm.
It was told by the Swedish Finance Director of the Swedish National Airlines
Swefly in London.

Mats Hultnas was speaking at the launch dinner. He said that many Swede
businessmen have established businesses in Pakistan and many more are
interested and these flights which are very economical compared to other
airlines will certainly give boost to these activities.

Mr. Hultnas said that he was pleased to meet the Prime Minister of Pakistan
in Karachi who took keen interest in the project and he thanked the Embassy
of Pakistan in Stockholm for their support, " they did a great job", he
said.

He told the gathering included by the travel agents and prominent
businessmen that the much interest has been shown among the Scandinavian
countries and soon they will start flights for other cities of Pakistan,
India and Toronto and Bangkok.

Swefly Marketing Director Mohammed Naveed Siddiqui said that the Luton
airport from where the first flight will start has shown keen interest in
the project and larger hangers have been constructed for Swefly Boeings.

The flights, 3 weekly from 19th May 2005 and 6 in a week from 19th June 2005
will go via Stockholm, the capital city of Sweden.

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Mr Siddique talks of larger hangars being built at LTN for their
767's. Err I don't think so!

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As posted on another thread re LBA, it looks like it really is going ahead next week. Apparently all seats for the first month are sold out. This from the LTN website......


London Luton goes Long Haul!
07 June 2005
New service to Pakistan launches this month. London Luton Airport is pleased to announce that from 17th June Swedish airline SWE Fly will be operating a scheduled service to Lahore, Pakistan three times a week.

By commencing services from London Luton to Lahore SWE FLY is the first airline to recognise the huge potential in the North London & Three Counties catchments for regular scheduled aviation services to the sub-continent.

Although SWE FLY is an established airline, by offering their customers long-haul flying at very competitive prices they are placing themselves at the forefront of the next phase of the global flying boom - "long haul / low cost".

The service which starts on Friday 17th June will operate on Sundays, Wednesdays and Fridays.

Passengers will be flown to London Luton's sister airport at Stockholm Skavsta, Sweden for fast transfer to their comfortable Boeing 767 jetliner taking them on the 'trunk' sector to Lahore.

Seat prices for return flights currently start as low as £351 inc. tax.

Welcoming the news Paul Kehoe Managing Director London Luton Airport said today: "London Luton Airport is firmly established as one of the UK's leading airports and helped pioneer the low cost flying revolution in Europe.

So we are perfectly placed to partner and support SWE Fly at the start of this new era in travel - and the airline is to be congratulated in taking this initiative.

SWE Fly are offering a keenly-priced long-haul service which will appeal to many different types of traveller. The route will attract not only the business community, but also people wishing to visit friends and relations - and of course independent leisure travellers looking for new and exciting destinations to explore."

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Passengers will be flown to London Luton's sister airport at Stockholm Skavsta, Sweden for fast transfer to their comfortable Boeing 767 jetliner taking them on the 'trunk' sector to Lahore.
The press release talks about passengers transfering so what is being used for the feeder service, Fokker 50, MD80 or Boeing 767? According to the May edition of Luton Airports scheduled timetable it is a MD 80 except Swefly don't own one
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According to the LBA press release, they will be operating Avro RJ70s on the LBA-Skavsta service, dont know if its the same for Luton, also dont know where they are getting the RJ70s from!
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Old 9th Jun 2005, 20:25
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Grrr

There was an Irish registered Transwede RJ70 at Luton a couple of weeks ago?

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Old 9th Jun 2005, 21:06
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Correct. Transwede RJ70 EI-COQ will operate ex LTN & LBA until Swefly obtain their own MD83. Plans to expand further to a 757.
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Old 10th Jun 2005, 08:40
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........could the 757 operate direct from LTN or LBA?
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Old 10th Jun 2005, 10:28
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Think they would sooner link it via Stockholm, thats where they have the 767.

Not sure if the 757 could manage it from LBA, look forward to seeing that and the MD80 and 757!

Thanks for the info on the RJ70
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Old 20th Jun 2005, 19:16
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Seems that the 767 will be seen at LBA during July. If anyone gets some good photo,s I would love copies.
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Old 13th Aug 2005, 22:49
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I had booked a seat for my friend to fly with Swe in july from LBA. the flight was in B767 without aircraft change however the feedback was that it was not a good flight at all and the price difference now is less than £50 from PIA...
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Old 13th Aug 2005, 23:40
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Why was it a bad flight?

I guess you refer to PIA ex MAN, if you are, then if was was the boss of PIA and saw an airline taking approx 500 outbound pax per week to Lahore from LBA, then I'd drop my prices too! It must have really rattled their cage, some young Swedish guy who saw a gap in the market. PIA need to get into the real world. Bring on more competition, thats all I can say.
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Old 14th Aug 2005, 04:39
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£50 might not seem like much money but these people travel as families of around 6 – 8 members so that’s up to £400 that can be donated to the local Madrasa

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Donation to Madrasa???what are you talking about???lets not change this aviation forum into a race and religion debate...As you seems to be talking out of A*SE...
Secondly the question of bad thing about service....Overall cabin crew was even less active and with expressionless faces than PIA's and food quality was very nice either. No personal entertainment infact there was no entertainment onboard at all...
Thirdly when you are traveling to long haul than £400 for 8 people is hardly worth adding another 5-6 hours and plane change to your already long journey.plus There are alot of elderly people travel to pakistan and i think its that group plus the one with young children who prefer to travel by PIA.
I myself have travelled with almost all airlines serving Uk Pakistan routes(indirect) and must say they are better than PIA and being young i dont mind a longer flight however i can see why other families still travel by PIA.
Last year july it took us 4 day to fly from heathrow to Lahore by PIA!!!B747
had problems with engines and we were stuck!!!!that story for anoth time may be....
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Perhaps the answer would be for PIA to fly (say twice a week from LBA) anyone know if you could operate a 777 from LBA direct with a full load? I know getting in wouldn't be a problem, parking it might be.

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