Euromanx RJ Arrival...
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Paxboy,
I'm flyinf Emerald in June and their price was considerably cheaper than Euromanx. What it's like now is anyones guess.
Yes, they use the ATP which seems to be fairly regular and suffer little delays.
Have a good trip
skiddy
I'm flyinf Emerald in June and their price was considerably cheaper than Euromanx. What it's like now is anyones guess.
Yes, they use the ATP which seems to be fairly regular and suffer little delays.
Have a good trip
skiddy
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I have seen that Euromanx are looking for DHC8 crews. As I am one I am very interested in what people feel about this company.
I am right now in another permanent position as First Officer on DHC8.
So I'm now wondering if I should quit my current job to join Euromanx.
Is Euromanx considered to be stable?
Well in short all info would be greatly appreciated.
Skottie
I am right now in another permanent position as First Officer on DHC8.
So I'm now wondering if I should quit my current job to join Euromanx.
Is Euromanx considered to be stable?
Well in short all info would be greatly appreciated.
Skottie
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Flew Euro Manx from Gla to IoM last Weds. On time in an Atlantic SAAB/Fairchild Metroliner. Actually took off and arrived ahead of schedule but was a bit sore on the ears.
Return flight on Friday again ahead of schedule on an Atlantic ATR42.
Return flight on Friday again ahead of schedule on an Atlantic ATR42.
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Galway here we come !
So then EB , when you've finished savaging poor defenceless captain Horry, perhaps you could explain why the foray to Galway today has been carried out not on the shiny red RJ, but on the Titan 146. Thus leaving the IOM - LCY pax to slum it on the ATR again !
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Departure of Fliteline ...
Anyone know why Fliteline’s aircraft disappeared recently from the EM multinational ‘fleet’? Strange rumours around.
Perhaps you could help out on this one EB?
Perhaps you could help out on this one EB?
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Eurob***h
You still don't have the RJ's yet
FACT
You do not have any a/c of your own
FACT
You are a ticketing agent for Denim Air
FACT
You do not have a British AOC
FACT
You didn't read Capt. H's post correctly
FACT ( because he stated "At least one of the local based pilots who has secured work with EM has just had his RJ course put back by two months", not "Euromanx don't have any RJ pilots" )
I have to say, the picture on your website makes me laugh. A much more realistic picture would have:
2 denim air fokker 50's
2 atr's ( various from air atlantique, one from Farnair )
1 Metroliner
2 Jetstreams ( 1 from Woodgate, 1 from Highland Airways)
Various BAE 146's from Titan
1 BAE 146 from Flightline
and the wording should be, "Fly with a different airline everytime you book Euromanx"
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Euromanx succeed but you'd have done alot worse than ( well, you probably have actually ) buy two Shorts 360's and flown to and from LPL, just like Manx Airlines all those years ago! It's time to cut the crap and come clean to the residents of the IOM about who you are and what you do!
C.C
You still don't have the RJ's yet
FACT
You do not have any a/c of your own
FACT
You are a ticketing agent for Denim Air
FACT
You do not have a British AOC
FACT
You didn't read Capt. H's post correctly
FACT ( because he stated "At least one of the local based pilots who has secured work with EM has just had his RJ course put back by two months", not "Euromanx don't have any RJ pilots" )
I have to say, the picture on your website makes me laugh. A much more realistic picture would have:
2 denim air fokker 50's
2 atr's ( various from air atlantique, one from Farnair )
1 Metroliner
2 Jetstreams ( 1 from Woodgate, 1 from Highland Airways)
Various BAE 146's from Titan
1 BAE 146 from Flightline
and the wording should be, "Fly with a different airline everytime you book Euromanx"
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Euromanx succeed but you'd have done alot worse than ( well, you probably have actually ) buy two Shorts 360's and flown to and from LPL, just like Manx Airlines all those years ago! It's time to cut the crap and come clean to the residents of the IOM about who you are and what you do!
C.C
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Trip numbers
Just slightly off topic.
I hope that as & when the RJ's Dash 8's etc come on line, the "ops" dept in Euromanx will exhibit a little more imagination in terms of flight planning safety than the current regime under Denim ( that is when they can actually get any flight plans filed for the correct time/ type / destination).
I refer to the ridiculous & very unsafe practice of planning every departure with "0x" at the end. On several occasions throughout the day ATC are presented with for example Denim 101, 401, 701, 601, 801, 901 and so on - mixed in with the other operators 301 (x2) 321 etc it is an incident waiting to happen.
This especially coupled with the varying leased in crews unfamiliarity with the using Denim RTF callsign to begin with.
Just a little thought for the future - how about 171, 461, 611 etc Hmmm ?
I hope that as & when the RJ's Dash 8's etc come on line, the "ops" dept in Euromanx will exhibit a little more imagination in terms of flight planning safety than the current regime under Denim ( that is when they can actually get any flight plans filed for the correct time/ type / destination).
I refer to the ridiculous & very unsafe practice of planning every departure with "0x" at the end. On several occasions throughout the day ATC are presented with for example Denim 101, 401, 701, 601, 801, 901 and so on - mixed in with the other operators 301 (x2) 321 etc it is an incident waiting to happen.
This especially coupled with the varying leased in crews unfamiliarity with the using Denim RTF callsign to begin with.
Just a little thought for the future - how about 171, 461, 611 etc Hmmm ?
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I certainly hope their AOC appears very quickly as their new look website no longer states they are a ticket provider for Denim Air and is therefore misleading - it just has a link to "Denim Air Terms and Conditions" but nothing to say what this has to do with Euromanx or that they are ticket providing for Denim Air. Just watch it change asap!
Well, it all has to start to fall into place in the next week, ready for Galway on the 18th - fingers crossed - or will we see weight-restricted Flightline 146's flying out of Galway to City and lots of egg on face? I really hope not.
tick, tock, tick, tock,
Well, it all has to start to fall into place in the next week, ready for Galway on the 18th - fingers crossed - or will we see weight-restricted Flightline 146's flying out of Galway to City and lots of egg on face? I really hope not.
tick, tock, tick, tock,
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Website seems to be working, but some problem with the schedules page here - unless my browser is at fault. It seems to be showing all flights twice, e.g. the IOM-BHD tale actually lists both the IOM-BHD and BHD-IOM flights, so there appear to be twice as many services as there really are.
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OK. One more time!
Some of you seem to be taking great pleasure in sniping at EuroManx. saint alled was the last one with his childish EQV snipe. One even TOLD everyone that EM were in administration! A VERY dangerous statement and could have led to problems for so many people - fortunately I saw it in time - before I had a complaint from someone who flies for them.
So, here's the deal. You either enter this thread with something TRUE and FACTUAL to say, or don't take any part in it at all.
Unless their is a REAL and not imagined problem keep your childish quips and snipes to yourself. The airline has a right to do whatever it sees fit.
This forum is suffering enough from people who should know better. Some are children, in which case they need to grow up fast or they will take no further part in this thread.
And think on this too. PPRuNe does not need or want any action being taken against it because of ill considered and way out remarks.
One strike and you are out - whoever you are.
Some of you seem to be taking great pleasure in sniping at EuroManx. saint alled was the last one with his childish EQV snipe. One even TOLD everyone that EM were in administration! A VERY dangerous statement and could have led to problems for so many people - fortunately I saw it in time - before I had a complaint from someone who flies for them.
So, here's the deal. You either enter this thread with something TRUE and FACTUAL to say, or don't take any part in it at all.
Unless their is a REAL and not imagined problem keep your childish quips and snipes to yourself. The airline has a right to do whatever it sees fit.
This forum is suffering enough from people who should know better. Some are children, in which case they need to grow up fast or they will take no further part in this thread.
And think on this too. PPRuNe does not need or want any action being taken against it because of ill considered and way out remarks.
One strike and you are out - whoever you are.
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EQV
Pop
I am sorry if I have caused you offence. The "EQV" remark was meant as a witty aside which is obviously not the manner in which you have taken it.
I would however back up albeit tongue in cheek remark with hard fact:
A timetable was issued by mail to all residents of the Isle of Man a matter of days ago, which contained Euromanx's intended schedules for the period 28th March to 31st October 2005; in that document, 4 aircraft types are listed on 3W's services, being RJ70, D328, DH3 and D328J.
I can inform you that at that no services yesterday or today have been operated by these types .
I for one would like nothing more than to see Euromanx flourish flying their own aircraft on a stable sustainable basis & serving the Isle of Man's best interests, but I am also fed up with the continuing broken promises & inaccurate information coming from the company.
The RJ70's were originally announced to arrive before Christmas 2004, and have been the subject of at least two press releases since announcing their arrival within days.
Pop, I do accept that you have a thankless task as moderator of this board which could land the whole Pprune concept in hot water if something libellous were allowed to pass through, however I would question your motive in disallowing rumour to circulate, especially when the company itself perpetuates such rumour by making regular fictitious announcements.
Returning to the original topoc of the post - "EQV"
I applaud the new website design, extremely smart. I do however note that all reference to aircraft type has been removed on the timetable. Maybe this speaks volumes more than my words.
I am sorry if I have caused you offence. The "EQV" remark was meant as a witty aside which is obviously not the manner in which you have taken it.
I would however back up albeit tongue in cheek remark with hard fact:
A timetable was issued by mail to all residents of the Isle of Man a matter of days ago, which contained Euromanx's intended schedules for the period 28th March to 31st October 2005; in that document, 4 aircraft types are listed on 3W's services, being RJ70, D328, DH3 and D328J.
I can inform you that at that no services yesterday or today have been operated by these types .
I for one would like nothing more than to see Euromanx flourish flying their own aircraft on a stable sustainable basis & serving the Isle of Man's best interests, but I am also fed up with the continuing broken promises & inaccurate information coming from the company.
The RJ70's were originally announced to arrive before Christmas 2004, and have been the subject of at least two press releases since announcing their arrival within days.
Pop, I do accept that you have a thankless task as moderator of this board which could land the whole Pprune concept in hot water if something libellous were allowed to pass through, however I would question your motive in disallowing rumour to circulate, especially when the company itself perpetuates such rumour by making regular fictitious announcements.
Returning to the original topoc of the post - "EQV"
I applaud the new website design, extremely smart. I do however note that all reference to aircraft type has been removed on the timetable. Maybe this speaks volumes more than my words.
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I do not normally respond on the forum but I will make this one quick exception. For everyone to see. Btw, you haven't caused me offence but you have offended the principals of PPRuNe and that is when mods intervene.
Rumour is, of course, part of the PPRuNe concept. Agree with that.
However, what Euromanx operate is their affair. How they do it is their affair. If they change a/c it is their affair. If they alter or change the website and other info it is their affair. They say that it is be subject to change. That's it. What they do or offer is always subject to change - all airlines work that way. What is on their website is up to them and they can expect comment, fair comment, if it is wrong. NOT abuse and nah nah's.
I will sit back and watch!
PPP
Rumour is, of course, part of the PPRuNe concept. Agree with that.
However, what Euromanx operate is their affair. How they do it is their affair. If they change a/c it is their affair. If they alter or change the website and other info it is their affair. They say that it is be subject to change. That's it. What they do or offer is always subject to change - all airlines work that way. What is on their website is up to them and they can expect comment, fair comment, if it is wrong. NOT abuse and nah nah's.
I will sit back and watch!
PPP
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Well, I am afraid I have to side with Sant Alled on this one.
The Isle of Man has been subject to some incredible advertising on behalf of Euromanx re their "planned" fleet and so far, have seen nothing. This is a rumour site, and as such, accepts that things aren't always as they seem. But, when an airline blatantly advertises something which they cannot possibly deliver then surely it is time to question their motives and indeed their capabilities.
As an airline employee on the Isle of Man I have seen Euromanx's operation first hand and although they are coping, I would say that is all they are doing.
It not only worries the other airlines using the rock, but it also worries joe public who is increasingly sceptical of Euromanx's capabilities of delivering the products they advertise.
I earnestly hope they succeed in whatever it is they are trying to do. God knows the Island could do with a strong, stable provider of air transport. What it doesn't need is a cowboy outfit, which, unfortunately, is what Euromanx is increasingly seen as.
I hope that the promised RJ's arrive soon. I am given to understand that all the mods that needed doing have been done and that their arrival is more imminent than has been.
While, as a keen photographer and "spotter" I enjoy the variety Euromanx have provided over the last couple of years, the sooner they standardise and settle down the better it will be for everyone - if boring for me!
Cheers
skiddy
The Isle of Man has been subject to some incredible advertising on behalf of Euromanx re their "planned" fleet and so far, have seen nothing. This is a rumour site, and as such, accepts that things aren't always as they seem. But, when an airline blatantly advertises something which they cannot possibly deliver then surely it is time to question their motives and indeed their capabilities.
As an airline employee on the Isle of Man I have seen Euromanx's operation first hand and although they are coping, I would say that is all they are doing.
It not only worries the other airlines using the rock, but it also worries joe public who is increasingly sceptical of Euromanx's capabilities of delivering the products they advertise.
I earnestly hope they succeed in whatever it is they are trying to do. God knows the Island could do with a strong, stable provider of air transport. What it doesn't need is a cowboy outfit, which, unfortunately, is what Euromanx is increasingly seen as.
I hope that the promised RJ's arrive soon. I am given to understand that all the mods that needed doing have been done and that their arrival is more imminent than has been.
While, as a keen photographer and "spotter" I enjoy the variety Euromanx have provided over the last couple of years, the sooner they standardise and settle down the better it will be for everyone - if boring for me!
Cheers
skiddy