Euromanx Information?
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The assets in question are not directly Euroman. The resolution has to happen on who does own the proposed aircraft, what AOC will they reside on and issues of Asset Register. They are EI aircraft proposed. I expect they will have confirmed dates for start and be taking bookings by Wed 23rd. One GWY based A/C. I will keep you posted.
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Euromanx advertised in Flight today for Saab 2000 pilots.
So, on which AOC will the Saab 200 operate???
Interesting comment from Hansol about 'importing people' to the Island. As I understand it the Isle of Man requires an employer to make a stong case for employing a worker from outside the Island.
Watch with interest I guess !
So, on which AOC will the Saab 200 operate???
Interesting comment from Hansol about 'importing people' to the Island. As I understand it the Isle of Man requires an employer to make a stong case for employing a worker from outside the Island.
Watch with interest I guess !
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If Euromanx are merely a ticket seller - why do they have a large board above their ticket desk at Ronaldsway declaring that they are The Island's Airline????
Except they don't have the money, which has led to the whole sorry saga as set out in this thread.
The process of setting up an airline is actually pretty simple. You hire the right people with the right experience - and they take you down the path of getting the relevant approvals/licenses, buying/leasing a plane and getting the right people to make it work (pilots, etc).
The difficult bit is getting the money together to enable the above process to roll. And even for a small scale start-up it takes a fair wad of cah.
And if you haven't got the money you go down the Euromanx route, which requires remarkably little capital seeing that the punters pay before travel and the suppliers don't get paid until after travel.
Looking at the hostory of start-ups who followed te Euromanx path you'll see a lot of names that are not around anymore. Which I suspect is the category Euromanx will be in soon enough.
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Three questions:
1. On what first hand knowledge are you able to state that 'they don't have the money'?
2. In your obvious vast experience of setting up airlines just how long do you know that it takes to 'hire the right people with the right experience - and they take you down the path of getting the relevant approvals/licenses, buying/leasing a plane and getting the right people to make it work (pilots, etc).'? if you are as good as you sound then perhaps EMX would like to hear from you.
3. How do you know that process you describe is not and has been in full swing even as you wrote your highly speculative post?
Three questions:
1. On what first hand knowledge are you able to state that 'they don't have the money'?
2. In your obvious vast experience of setting up airlines just how long do you know that it takes to 'hire the right people with the right experience - and they take you down the path of getting the relevant approvals/licenses, buying/leasing a plane and getting the right people to make it work (pilots, etc).'? if you are as good as you sound then perhaps EMX would like to hear from you.
3. How do you know that process you describe is not and has been in full swing even as you wrote your highly speculative post?
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On what first hand knowledge are you able to state that 'they don't have the money'?
In your obvious vast experience of setting up airlines just how long do you know that it takes to 'hire the right people with the right experience - and they take you down the path of getting the relevant approvals/licenses, buying/leasing a plane and getting the right people to make it work (pilots, etc).'? if you are as good as you sound then perhaps EMX would like to hear from you.
How do you know that process you describe is not and has been in full swing even as you wrote your highly speculative post?
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Euromanx now open bookings for GWY-LCY and GWY-AGP.
Issues resolved with DOT. Low fares, good times. PSO bids closed. Paris no market. ******** has some knowledge of market after CityJet debacle years ago. Makes a very impressive presentation. Funny money may make it work.
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Issues resolved with DOT. Low fares, good times. PSO bids closed. Paris no market. ******** has some knowledge of market after CityJet debacle years ago. Makes a very impressive presentation. Funny money may make it work.
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Absolutely fantastic read! 
Will the aircraft ex GWY be on the Denim AOC or an Austrian AOC or some other national AOC?
The recruitment seems a bit chaotic.
And WTF are they going on about advertising for Saab 2000 pilots in Flight for? I make that 4 types being operated (RJ, 328Jet, Dash 8 and now Saab 2000). Complex doesn't go halfway to explaining it. At least with Denim you know you're going to be getting on an F50, or a Flightline 146 or a Highland Airways J31 (has their atr42 also been used?).
Getting back to the "Island's favorite airline" doggerel. Perhaps Euromanx should be focussing on its original market.
If they can get an Austrian AOC, why not a UK one?
Will the aircraft ex GWY be on the Denim AOC or an Austrian AOC or some other national AOC?
The recruitment seems a bit chaotic.
And WTF are they going on about advertising for Saab 2000 pilots in Flight for? I make that 4 types being operated (RJ, 328Jet, Dash 8 and now Saab 2000). Complex doesn't go halfway to explaining it. At least with Denim you know you're going to be getting on an F50, or a Flightline 146 or a Highland Airways J31 (has their atr42 also been used?).
Getting back to the "Island's favorite airline" doggerel. Perhaps Euromanx should be focussing on its original market.
If they can get an Austrian AOC, why not a UK one?
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This thread, as well as another thread, now removed, has been getting personal with some snide remarks and veiled threats. This will not be tolerated on PPRuNe and should cease immediately.
Just get the subject back on track please - or it goes.
Just get the subject back on track please - or it goes.
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I see pilot recruitment is now being advertised on EM's web site, there is a simple reply form to fill in, no particular aircraft type being specified though ! I wonder if this means a move from wet to dry leases, could be another way of reducing costs.
New routes are also available to buy on the site "business travellers" can do the day return GWY to LCY for around €300, form an orderly queue !
New routes are also available to buy on the site "business travellers" can do the day return GWY to LCY for around €300, form an orderly queue !
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Never mind the other various aircraft dear old EMX are using, they are now using a shed!! Shorts 360 G-VBAC just taxiied in on one of their routes.
Come on Euromanx, you are really scraping the bottom of the barrel now guys!!
And can someone shut the door before ALL their street cred escapes!!!
skiddy
Come on Euromanx, you are really scraping the bottom of the barrel now guys!!
And can someone shut the door before ALL their street cred escapes!!!
skiddy