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Denim will not respond to IAA and Irish DOT re Euromanx announcement at GWY. Management at GWY asked to clarify funding with Irish DOT. Focus back from RE through POC membership of board of GWY COC who own GWY airport. Complicated by Denim flying and payment from RE for Jan,Feb. Also complaints from other Irish regional airports on Denim and GWY to Irish DOT. Now investigation from Min office due re PSO.
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Update from the taxi drivers at Dublin Airport yesterday evening.
Man Utd can still win the Champions League.
Bertie was right and BA are idiots.
Aer Lingus should be flying all the Irish flights("that's why we own them").
The pint in The Boot is gone to ****e.
There's too many foreigners in this country.
No one seemed to know who Denim are, but they've seen the odd Aer Arann plane now and again("You wouldn't get me on one of them little planes").
PS: Ray went to the Isle of Man with his mot, on their honeymoon, but that was on some boat from the North Wall.
Man Utd can still win the Champions League.
Bertie was right and BA are idiots.
Aer Lingus should be flying all the Irish flights("that's why we own them").
The pint in The Boot is gone to ****e.
There's too many foreigners in this country.
No one seemed to know who Denim are, but they've seen the odd Aer Arann plane now and again("You wouldn't get me on one of them little planes").
PS: Ray went to the Isle of Man with his mot, on their honeymoon, but that was on some boat from the North Wall.
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Nice one DW......just heard from taxi driver that Bertie wants wily willie back, jaysus man i'm awful sorry. Brother....what a load of horse..... Denim fly for both RE and 3W. There is no link to Denim and 3W re GWY, as I am aware. The only GWY link to this airline as I understand is Denim cover for RE, which I assume is IAA approved, so if Denim were to operate on behalf of 3W, how can the IAA say yeah to RE and neah to 3W. Anyway, 3W as I hear will fly their own long awaited AOC, not Denim. PSO got nothing to do with commercial activities. For some reason (am I surprised) this thread is becoming malicious. Dangerous claims brother!
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Referring to last post - you are very wrong as Euromanx operate completely under the DenimAir AOC - I have it sitting in front of my desk as we speak. This is not acceptable for preselling volume schedule seats ex GWY on aircraft not on any AOC. Irish Govt. and Denim not willing to accept this risk. No AOC is imminent for EuroManx from my enquiries.
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Is this from a taxi driver or the Minister. Brother, if it's from the minister, and if you are a civil servant in the DOT I'd be careful posting his thoughts in a press watched public forum. I personally am not interested in RE's financial relationship with their suppliers, that is their own business, I do however think they are turning into a great airline, and as for 3W how can they sell ex DUB and not GWY. Hansol.....suck an orange and lose the bitterness. Maybe you should rename yourself 'lemon'.
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Referring to last post. You obviously are not reading the posts.
Euromanx operate completely under the DenimAir AOC and I just spoke with Euromanx and DenimAir to confirm the following:
A. Euromanx is a travel agent legal entity that sells tickets on behalf of DenimAir AOC on flights operated by a variety of differing air ad hoc charter carriers.
B. They are not imminently receiving an Irish or UK AOC and plan to operate under DenimAir AOC indefinitely.
C. There is not additional RJ aircraft on the DenimAir AOC to operate the GWY services.
D. They do not have an aircraft currently available to operate the services from Galway. They will be asked by Irish DOT not to commence selling flighst ex GWY until it is established what aircraft on what AOC they plan to operate.
E. The Euromanx services ex GWY are to benefit from the irish DOT marketing grant scheme for Galway Airport 2005. An enquiry is being made to GWY for clarification on this by DOT. That is on the back of a query from RE. Remember POC from RE is effectively on the board that controls GWY airport.
F. Denimair referred me to the operation of their flights as Euromanx and all TOC for EUROMANX are referenced off front page of Euromanx website directly.
G. Existing DUB operations are covered by the aircraft on DenimAir AOC.
It is not permitted to operate flights ex Ireland for sale to passenger services when there is no compliant AOC operator and aircraft.
It is the hope of all that Euromanx will commence operations from GWY which would be seen as good use of the Irish DOT money. Competition at GWY is good. I have no interest in whether it is commercially viable or not. The market will decide that.
Indeed RE are a very interesting airline and appear to be getting their operations back to normal despite great concerns over the last six months. They have benefitted from approx EURO 62.3 million of Irish Government grants and PSO subsidies over the last 4 years. It is felt that should be sufficient to enable them to complete their development as an International airline. The belief has always been that they were the a similar operation to the old Aer Lingus Commuter. Hope that makes things a little clearer for you.
Euromanx operate completely under the DenimAir AOC and I just spoke with Euromanx and DenimAir to confirm the following:
A. Euromanx is a travel agent legal entity that sells tickets on behalf of DenimAir AOC on flights operated by a variety of differing air ad hoc charter carriers.
B. They are not imminently receiving an Irish or UK AOC and plan to operate under DenimAir AOC indefinitely.
C. There is not additional RJ aircraft on the DenimAir AOC to operate the GWY services.
D. They do not have an aircraft currently available to operate the services from Galway. They will be asked by Irish DOT not to commence selling flighst ex GWY until it is established what aircraft on what AOC they plan to operate.
E. The Euromanx services ex GWY are to benefit from the irish DOT marketing grant scheme for Galway Airport 2005. An enquiry is being made to GWY for clarification on this by DOT. That is on the back of a query from RE. Remember POC from RE is effectively on the board that controls GWY airport.
F. Denimair referred me to the operation of their flights as Euromanx and all TOC for EUROMANX are referenced off front page of Euromanx website directly.
G. Existing DUB operations are covered by the aircraft on DenimAir AOC.
It is not permitted to operate flights ex Ireland for sale to passenger services when there is no compliant AOC operator and aircraft.
It is the hope of all that Euromanx will commence operations from GWY which would be seen as good use of the Irish DOT money. Competition at GWY is good. I have no interest in whether it is commercially viable or not. The market will decide that.
Indeed RE are a very interesting airline and appear to be getting their operations back to normal despite great concerns over the last six months. They have benefitted from approx EURO 62.3 million of Irish Government grants and PSO subsidies over the last 4 years. It is felt that should be sufficient to enable them to complete their development as an International airline. The belief has always been that they were the a similar operation to the old Aer Lingus Commuter. Hope that makes things a little clearer for you.
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Why did you give Aer Arann that much grants and PSO money? How much will it be next time Brother? Any idea who else is expected to bid for PSO routes? We are all ears. Oh and is your name Martin!
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thebrother, Could you explain why Club328 advertised in Flight recently for pilots to fly for Euromanx based in the Isle of Man?
I had a very swift reply to say they had filled all their positions but hoped to recruit again later in the year . . .
Thanks
I had a very swift reply to say they had filled all their positions but hoped to recruit again later in the year . . .
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On Club328 I think thebrother was clear :-
A. Euromanx is a travel agent legal entity that sells tickets on behalf of DenimAir AOC on .
flights operated by a variety of differing air ad hoc charter carriers
Seems like a clever wasy to start a regional airline if you can swing it for long enough. I guess some people operate like this for years. Did'nt Easyjet operate like this for a long time under AirFoyle AOC. It only gets messy when the Govt. gets worried on finances and ops.
A. Euromanx is a travel agent legal entity that sells tickets on behalf of DenimAir AOC on .
flights operated by a variety of differing air ad hoc charter carriers
Seems like a clever wasy to start a regional airline if you can swing it for long enough. I guess some people operate like this for years. Did'nt Easyjet operate like this for a long time under AirFoyle AOC. It only gets messy when the Govt. gets worried on finances and ops.
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Just seen that the Galway Advertiser (local free newspaper) has an ad this week seeking and I quote -
"Experienced Aircraft Cabin Crew required for jet operations out of Galway to London City, Paris and Malaga. Please send current CV by email [email protected]"
Don't know if they advertised anywhere else - but was wondering Euromanx ticketed flighta are flown by DenimAir, who normally employs the crew ? Is Euromanx advertising for staff like this unusual ? (Before anyone makes a wise crack I realise they don't have anyone based at Galway already - but do they have many staff based anywhere else ?)
By the way there was no closing date on the advert so they mustn't be looking for anyone for their supposed start-up date of April18th.
"Experienced Aircraft Cabin Crew required for jet operations out of Galway to London City, Paris and Malaga. Please send current CV by email [email protected]"
Don't know if they advertised anywhere else - but was wondering Euromanx ticketed flighta are flown by DenimAir, who normally employs the crew ? Is Euromanx advertising for staff like this unusual ? (Before anyone makes a wise crack I realise they don't have anyone based at Galway already - but do they have many staff based anywhere else ?)
By the way there was no closing date on the advert so they mustn't be looking for anyone for their supposed start-up date of April18th.
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Hands up who thinks the first RJ will go to GWY in preference to IOM ?
I feel sorry for the poor souls who have been promised seats on these RJ's & dashes. Come on Euromanx, remember your name - better service to the Island you claim to be the airline of.
I feel sorry for the poor souls who have been promised seats on these RJ's & dashes. Come on Euromanx, remember your name - better service to the Island you claim to be the airline of.
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I would doubt the size of the SOU-VIE market. Unless some very attractive low fares are available, I can't really see the route working. Are there any business links between Vienna and the Southampton area?
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Mike
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Mike