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Indeed, back to MME. I don't think that the WW LGW flights will harm the LHR flights in any way. Just a pity the timings aren't brilliant, but I guess that's due to slots at LGW
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Another thought on the lower pax figures in April vis a vis March.. April has one day less than March. Accounting for at least 200 pax on each route.
Rome has an additional reason with the airport closed for the Pope's funeral. Bologna needs to be added to the NCL figure for a better comparison.
Rome has an additional reason with the airport closed for the Pope's funeral. Bologna needs to be added to the NCL figure for a better comparison.
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What about NCL - LHR too? I would look at binning that as leeds has more important connections with london than newcastle (finance).
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What the hell is bmibaby doing now?
Just last week it was announced that they would be doing a Gatwick daily, with evening flights mon-fri and sun and a morning flight on a sat. Well thats not true, they are only doing Gatwick flights mon-fri and sun, no flight on a sat. Instead they are doing a once weekly flight to Jersey on the sat.
Even a bunch of GCSE students could do better than bmibaby at the moment out of MME.
One they refuse to do services properly e.g. 4 times a week on the Paris, this route should be done at least daily if not twice a day to provide the business man/women with the oppertunity to do a days work in Paris.
The Gatwick should be done likewise.
Two they are always saying one thing one week and doing another the next e.g. saying MME would have two aircraft when they started then not actually basing one till the following summer. Saying Gatwick would be daily then only doing it 6 times a week.
I ve know GCSE students with more business sense than bmibaby, I have in the passed tried to stand up for them but this is getting stupid. They are trying to do too many destinations with a single aircraft out of MME. They would be better concentrating on 3 or 4 routes and build them up if they are going to continue with just the one aircraft.
Oh and will the fools from Newcastle and Leeds who have turned this thread into my city is better than your city slanging match take it somewhere else. If you want i'll set up a new thread for you how does " I'm a 10 year old and want to have an arguement" sound!!!!!
Just last week it was announced that they would be doing a Gatwick daily, with evening flights mon-fri and sun and a morning flight on a sat. Well thats not true, they are only doing Gatwick flights mon-fri and sun, no flight on a sat. Instead they are doing a once weekly flight to Jersey on the sat.
Even a bunch of GCSE students could do better than bmibaby at the moment out of MME.
One they refuse to do services properly e.g. 4 times a week on the Paris, this route should be done at least daily if not twice a day to provide the business man/women with the oppertunity to do a days work in Paris.
The Gatwick should be done likewise.
Two they are always saying one thing one week and doing another the next e.g. saying MME would have two aircraft when they started then not actually basing one till the following summer. Saying Gatwick would be daily then only doing it 6 times a week.
I ve know GCSE students with more business sense than bmibaby, I have in the passed tried to stand up for them but this is getting stupid. They are trying to do too many destinations with a single aircraft out of MME. They would be better concentrating on 3 or 4 routes and build them up if they are going to continue with just the one aircraft.
Oh and will the fools from Newcastle and Leeds who have turned this thread into my city is better than your city slanging match take it somewhere else. If you want i'll set up a new thread for you how does " I'm a 10 year old and want to have an arguement" sound!!!!!
I absolultely promise not to go down the "my airport / city / region (delete which not applicable) is better than yours". It's childish, and rather futile.
As for WW, I suggest that to a marketing department, where truth and a good story are mutually exclusive; 6 days a week is pretty well daily, and one aircraft is not much different from two, especially if the 2nd is on it's way!
As someone outside the Northeast, with no axe to grind, I would think that the rationale for a CDG service running less than daily (or 6 x per week!!) is that in the eyes of the decision makers at Baby, the market is primarily leisure rather than business orientated. They may be wrong,
As for WW, I suggest that to a marketing department, where truth and a good story are mutually exclusive; 6 days a week is pretty well daily, and one aircraft is not much different from two, especially if the 2nd is on it's way!
As someone outside the Northeast, with no axe to grind, I would think that the rationale for a CDG service running less than daily (or 6 x per week!!) is that in the eyes of the decision makers at Baby, the market is primarily leisure rather than business orientated. They may be wrong,
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Doubt bmi would drop LBA or MME flights to LHR as LBA in particular is a profit making route which is alot more than can be said for some others. Of course with the axing of busi class that could all change. Who knows BMI might drop LHR from MME and replace it with 3-4 times daily to LGW therefore freeing up slots in LHR for planned longhaul expansion. At the end of the day not too sure if BMI management (mainline, regional or baby) really know what they're going to do tomorrow let alone in a few months time.
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BMIbaby really aren't a low cost airline in my opinion. A quick look at some of the fares available from MME - LGW in December reveals that they are more expensive than BA on NCL - LGW and in some cases BMI on MME - LHR!!
I would have thought they would be trying to undercut BA a little, especially this far in advance!
I would have thought they would be trying to undercut BA a little, especially this far in advance!
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Have found out that the Newquay service is underperforming. Only averaging around 35 each flight which is a shame (I think if it were daily it would fill around 20 seats). Although you will have to remember that Leeds has a twice daily service, the fact that it was a short notice substitustion for the poor performing Belfast at the begining of the summer season and hasn't had the holiday companies selling it for months in advance like the Jersey.
I think though if it were done daily it would attract more people but still would need a smaller aircraft, maybe done via somewhere like Coventry or Cardiff, a bit like the Leeds service.
Hope if bmibaby drop it next summer someone like air southwest pick it up, even if it is only done four times a week.
I think though if it were done daily it would attract more people but still would need a smaller aircraft, maybe done via somewhere like Coventry or Cardiff, a bit like the Leeds service.
Hope if bmibaby drop it next summer someone like air southwest pick it up, even if it is only done four times a week.
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35 pax per flight where did you get that from, counted over a hundred getting of it on Sunday night!
Certainly doing better than the BFS (not that that says much)
Certainly doing better than the BFS (not that that says much)
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Blah thanks for the update, I can assure you that from what I have been told and know 35 is the average for each flight, although these figure only correspond to last month. Maybe from what you say the route is picking up, hopefully we'll see more people using it as the summer holidays approach. If it does pick up over the summer could we see air wales baby sitting over the winter? Personally I don't think so but stranger things have happend at bmibaby.
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Any chance of any new routes soon?? Possibly Air Southwest to start up NQY-MME in the winter when baby halt it?
And I really don't think the new Goldtrail route to Bodrum will start, the announcement has already vanished off the airport website!
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And I really don't think the new Goldtrail route to Bodrum will start, the announcement has already vanished off the airport website!
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"And I really don't think the new Goldtrail route to Bodrum will start, the announcement has already vanished off the airport website!"
Funny that a friend and his family flew out on it this Monday!
Funny that a friend and his family flew out on it this Monday!
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According to the 2nd edition Thomson brochure, there is a flight to Kos on a Thursday afternoon, although it hasn't been formally announced by the airport, and isn't on the Thomson website, so it maybe a mistake.
Passenger figures to Rome certainly getting better, but seems not good enough as Ryanair have cut it back to 3 a week for winter, Tue, Thurs and Sat, so that will probably kill the route off, as no Fri/Sun flights for a weekend away.
May 6395pax (FCO and CIA combined)
June -7463pax
Heathrow pax figures up 15% in May 2005, compared to 2004, to 11514.
Cork still not exactly doing that well
May- 1559pax
June- 1981pax
Paris
May- 2277pax
June 2547pax
and to show why bmibaby dropped Belfast only 1172 passengers in May!!
It doesn't look like the airport is going to make the 1 million passengers this year.
Passenger figures to Rome certainly getting better, but seems not good enough as Ryanair have cut it back to 3 a week for winter, Tue, Thurs and Sat, so that will probably kill the route off, as no Fri/Sun flights for a weekend away.
May 6395pax (FCO and CIA combined)
June -7463pax
Heathrow pax figures up 15% in May 2005, compared to 2004, to 11514.
Cork still not exactly doing that well
May- 1559pax
June- 1981pax
Paris
May- 2277pax
June 2547pax
and to show why bmibaby dropped Belfast only 1172 passengers in May!!
It doesn't look like the airport is going to make the 1 million passengers this year.
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Some good news.
DURHAM AND TEES VALLEY TO GET NEW SOUTH WEST LINK
For the first time a brand new air service linking County Durham and the Tees Valley region with South West England and South Wales will be launched by Eastern Airways.
The airline, which is one of the UK’s fastest growing regional operators, will provide regional business travellers with an excellent business led schedule with three flights each week day from Durham Tees Valley Airport to Bristol International Airport. A Sunday service will also operate.
Services start from 24 October and will take 70 minutes. Weekday flights will depart from Durham Tees Valley Airport at 6.45am, 1.30pm and 5.15pm, arriving at Bristol at 7.55am, 2.40pm and 6.25pm respectively. Return services will leave Bristol at 8.25am, 3.10pm and 6.55pm, landing in Durham Tees Valley Airport at 9.35am, 4.20pm and 8.05pm respectively.
Sunday services will take off from Bristol at 3.50pm arriving in Durham Tees Valley at 5pm with return flights departing at 5.30pm and landing in Bristol at 6.40pm.
Both regions have strong business links, particularly in the telecommunications industry. Bristol Airport is located eight miles south of the city centre and is close to Bath, as well as being a gateway to the South West, Gloucestershire, Somerset and South Wales.
Keith Watson, Eastern Airways’ head of sales and marketing said: “This fast new air link is great news for Tees Valley and County Durham business travellers as they can arrive in Bristol city centre by 9am without the stress of driving an arduous 300 miles. Our schedules provide a perfect opportunity for conducting a day’s business without the need for an overnight stay. The major developments in the South West region and at the airport are indicative of the economic climate and we are excited at what we believe will be a very welcome addition to our network”.
Mark Clarkson, Durham Tees Valley Airport’s business development manager, said: “We have been working closely with both the business community and Eastern Airways to deliver a service to Bristol and we are delighted with today’s news. The North East Chamber of Commerce and a number of key employers in both regions have been of great assistance and we look forward to the establishment of another important route from Durham Tees Valley.
“With fast, efficient and reliable services now in place, we are convinced that the route will be well supported by both business and leisure passengers”.
Return fares start from £99 including taxes.
Eastern Airways also operates four flights each weekday to Aberdeen from Durham Tees Valley Airport.
The Rome in june averaged 124 pax each flight.
The Dublin only carried 5466 which is only an average of 91 per flight. When this changes to a 737-800 Ryanair may decide to pull it altogether unless they are going to add a second flight a day to try and stimulate business growth and take the business travellers that currently use Newcastle and Leeds rather than MME due to MME only having one flight a day.
DURHAM AND TEES VALLEY TO GET NEW SOUTH WEST LINK
For the first time a brand new air service linking County Durham and the Tees Valley region with South West England and South Wales will be launched by Eastern Airways.
The airline, which is one of the UK’s fastest growing regional operators, will provide regional business travellers with an excellent business led schedule with three flights each week day from Durham Tees Valley Airport to Bristol International Airport. A Sunday service will also operate.
Services start from 24 October and will take 70 minutes. Weekday flights will depart from Durham Tees Valley Airport at 6.45am, 1.30pm and 5.15pm, arriving at Bristol at 7.55am, 2.40pm and 6.25pm respectively. Return services will leave Bristol at 8.25am, 3.10pm and 6.55pm, landing in Durham Tees Valley Airport at 9.35am, 4.20pm and 8.05pm respectively.
Sunday services will take off from Bristol at 3.50pm arriving in Durham Tees Valley at 5pm with return flights departing at 5.30pm and landing in Bristol at 6.40pm.
Both regions have strong business links, particularly in the telecommunications industry. Bristol Airport is located eight miles south of the city centre and is close to Bath, as well as being a gateway to the South West, Gloucestershire, Somerset and South Wales.
Keith Watson, Eastern Airways’ head of sales and marketing said: “This fast new air link is great news for Tees Valley and County Durham business travellers as they can arrive in Bristol city centre by 9am without the stress of driving an arduous 300 miles. Our schedules provide a perfect opportunity for conducting a day’s business without the need for an overnight stay. The major developments in the South West region and at the airport are indicative of the economic climate and we are excited at what we believe will be a very welcome addition to our network”.
Mark Clarkson, Durham Tees Valley Airport’s business development manager, said: “We have been working closely with both the business community and Eastern Airways to deliver a service to Bristol and we are delighted with today’s news. The North East Chamber of Commerce and a number of key employers in both regions have been of great assistance and we look forward to the establishment of another important route from Durham Tees Valley.
“With fast, efficient and reliable services now in place, we are convinced that the route will be well supported by both business and leisure passengers”.
Return fares start from £99 including taxes.
Eastern Airways also operates four flights each weekday to Aberdeen from Durham Tees Valley Airport.
The Rome in june averaged 124 pax each flight.
The Dublin only carried 5466 which is only an average of 91 per flight. When this changes to a 737-800 Ryanair may decide to pull it altogether unless they are going to add a second flight a day to try and stimulate business growth and take the business travellers that currently use Newcastle and Leeds rather than MME due to MME only having one flight a day.