DurhamTeesValleyAirport happenings
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: gate 67 JFK
Posts: 690
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
MME Second baby aircraft
A lot of the Prauge volume books only a short time before departure (3 months or so) baby crews have been told that there will be 2 aircraft next summer but they want Ryanair to show their hand first. I understand that baby is now trading profitably with both volume and yield ahead of budget, at the end of the day that is all that bmi are interested in.
They will add further routes and aircraft in due course, but they do not want a repeat of the bad press they got earlier this year.
They will add further routes and aircraft in due course, but they do not want a repeat of the bad press they got earlier this year.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Teesside, UK
Age: 33
Posts: 1,100
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
That's good news that we are going to get a second based baby 
Wonder which destinations it will open up? PRG, hopefully increases on AGP/ALC/PMI plus maybe MJV/NCE again
Wonder which destinations it will open up? PRG, hopefully increases on AGP/ALC/PMI plus maybe MJV/NCE again
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Teesside, UK
Age: 33
Posts: 1,100
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
The terminal was evacuated this morning after a bomb scare, bmi A319 was in the hold for about 45 mins, was ready to divert to NCL when the all clear was given. The traffic was bad (heard Police 11 (G-NESU) say) and within 20 mins bmi A319, KLM Cityhopper F70, Ryanair B732 had landed, thats really gonna help the traffic 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Darlington
Posts: 214
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Really hope bmi and the airport can come to some agreement and keep the extra LHR flights, and fingers crossed for the 2nd baby!
The airtours holiday programme is certainly very reduced from last Summer, no based Spanair MD83. This is from the MyTravel website-
Sat- JKK PMI-MME-ALC-MME-PMI
Mon- AEU REU-MME-REU
Wed ZU (Helios?) from Larnaca.
Wed BY to Paphos (based BY B738)
Thu JKK ACE-MME-ACE
Fri AEU MME (0500)-IBZ-MME arrive back 11:20.
Fri JKK MME (12:15) - MAH - MME arrive back 18:20
The last 2 a bit strange as the timings suggest the aircraft start at MME, using Astraeus and Spanair????
Also next Winter brochures are out and nothing different from the couple of flights this winter. It seems people in the Tees Vally only want to go to Alicante and Tenerife in the winter!
The airtours holiday programme is certainly very reduced from last Summer, no based Spanair MD83. This is from the MyTravel website-
Sat- JKK PMI-MME-ALC-MME-PMI
Mon- AEU REU-MME-REU
Wed ZU (Helios?) from Larnaca.
Wed BY to Paphos (based BY B738)
Thu JKK ACE-MME-ACE
Fri AEU MME (0500)-IBZ-MME arrive back 11:20.
Fri JKK MME (12:15) - MAH - MME arrive back 18:20
The last 2 a bit strange as the timings suggest the aircraft start at MME, using Astraeus and Spanair????
Also next Winter brochures are out and nothing different from the couple of flights this winter. It seems people in the Tees Vally only want to go to Alicante and Tenerife in the winter!
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Teesside
Posts: 121
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I expected this really.
Of course we all get excited with BY base an aircraft but as much as I hate to say it, I don't think a market exists for 2 based charter aircraft on Teesside.
At least we're keeping some though...
Of course we all get excited with BY base an aircraft but as much as I hate to say it, I don't think a market exists for 2 based charter aircraft on Teesside.
At least we're keeping some though...
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Here
Posts: 710
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Helios and Astraeus will be something different to look at, fingers crossed for an Airbus on the JKK's. At the end of the day it's all about pax numbers, and they'll still continue to rise.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Teesside, UK
Age: 33
Posts: 1,100
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Would be nice to see Astraeus and Helios here, something different......if only we could get some foreign charters coming here bringing foreign people in (
Plenty of history around the area).......anyway, enough of the dreaming 
Also, if JKK are to base an aircraft here, what's it going to do on it's 'off' days, I think they should do some kind of sightseeing flights maybe, about an hour long or so.
I think that for the new terminal, a transport interchange should be made, with the rail line diverted either next to, or underneath the new terminal, and with the buses there too, it could be a winner.
Plenty of history around the area).......anyway, enough of the dreaming Also, if JKK are to base an aircraft here, what's it going to do on it's 'off' days, I think they should do some kind of sightseeing flights maybe, about an hour long or so.
I think that for the new terminal, a transport interchange should be made, with the rail line diverted either next to, or underneath the new terminal, and with the buses there too, it could be a winner.
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: North East
Posts: 521
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi don't know if anyone has seen this but this is the airport plan for the future. This is on top of any development of the south side.
AIRPORT PLANS SET TO BOOST JOBS AND ECONOMY
Two and half thousand new jobs—and a multi-million pound boost to the area’s economy—are in prospect in major plans for the expansion of Durham Tees Valley Airport which have been submitted to Darlington and Stockton Councils.
Airport Managing Director Hugh Lang describes the plans—which will enable Durham Tees Valley to handle up to three million passengers a year as well as creating a new cargo and maintenance ‘village’ together with a business park and hotel—as ‘a huge opportunity not just for the airport but the entire area.’
Currently the Airport provides the equivalent of around 750 jobs and supports a further 190 to 260 within the Tees Valley. As a result of the developments now being planned the Airport could be employing almost 2,700 in ten years’ time, supporting hundreds more jobs within the area and adding £120million a year into the local economy.
The new extension for the Airport terminal will provide impressive new departure facilities, including 30 check-ins and baggage handling facilities on the ground floor and departure lounges on the first floor with four gate ‘bridges’ connecting directly to the aircraft stands.
In order to handle the increased business there will also be nine new additional aircraft stands, together with new taxiway and apron facilities, as well as a 20,000 square metre development at the north eastern end of the runway, providing facilities for maintenance and cargo handling and processing.
The new North Side Business Park will include 18,600 square metres of high quality office space and, together with the planned 100-bed ‘lodge’ style hotel and restaurant, will create an impressive new development around the main access route to the Airport from the A67.
A detailed Environmental Statement has been submitted with the planning application, examining a comprehensive range of issues including noise, air quality, surface transport access, hydrogeology, landscape, cultural heritage and the local ecology. This also considers construction impacts of the development and outlines the contents of a Construction Management Plan to control them.
Explains Hugh Lang “I believe that this is a massively important development for the Tees Valley and the surrounding areas of North Yorkshire and Durham. From the Airport’s point of view the facts are very clear—we will reach the maximum capacity of the current terminal facilities, at 1.2million passengers a year, by 2007. The plans we have now submitted will enable us to move forward over the next decade, with the prospect of hitting three million passengers a year by 2015.
“They underline the commitment of Peel Airports to maximising the potential of Durham Tees Valley by providing the quality of facilities and services demanded by both passengers and airlines and ensuring that we fully exploit the commercial opportunities of the whole airport site.
“The last year has been our busiest on record, with many of our partner airlines, including bmi, bmibaby, Ryanair and Eastern Airways all expanding their services, and prospects for 2005 are also excellent, with the introduction for example, of new services to Paris and Cork in Ireland. The proposals we are now putting forward will enable us to maintain the momentum in the years ahead and succeed in a very tough and competitive market.
Peter Nears, Strategic Planning Director for Peel Airports said, “Obviously, we expect that there will be a great deal of interest in the proposals and over the coming weeks, as the local authorities consider the applications, we will be making every effort to provide as much information as possible. For example, the full planning documentation will be available for viewing at the Information Desk in the Airport Terminal, as well as at the local authorities and we will be staging an exhibition on the proposals at the Airport.
“In all the discussions and consultations we have had so far with a wide range of interests during the course of preparing this application including the Scoping Exercise held in the Summer of 2004 we have been greatly encouraged by the widespread recognition that a successful and growing airport is vital both in terms of direct jobs and investment and the overall economic regeneration of the Tees Valley City Region.”
To download a copy of the Non Technical Summary of the submission please click here (Right click and select "save target as...")
Also has anyone heard the rumour about the Cork being done by another airline and the Paris being increased to a daily service? Can anyone shed any light. It would, if true be a more sensible option than having Paris only 4 times a week. Has anyone any news on the Prague? Will it be back in the winter or is there a possibility that another airline is going to do it this summer or the hoped for second baby to do it?
AIRPORT PLANS SET TO BOOST JOBS AND ECONOMY
Two and half thousand new jobs—and a multi-million pound boost to the area’s economy—are in prospect in major plans for the expansion of Durham Tees Valley Airport which have been submitted to Darlington and Stockton Councils.
Airport Managing Director Hugh Lang describes the plans—which will enable Durham Tees Valley to handle up to three million passengers a year as well as creating a new cargo and maintenance ‘village’ together with a business park and hotel—as ‘a huge opportunity not just for the airport but the entire area.’
Currently the Airport provides the equivalent of around 750 jobs and supports a further 190 to 260 within the Tees Valley. As a result of the developments now being planned the Airport could be employing almost 2,700 in ten years’ time, supporting hundreds more jobs within the area and adding £120million a year into the local economy.
The new extension for the Airport terminal will provide impressive new departure facilities, including 30 check-ins and baggage handling facilities on the ground floor and departure lounges on the first floor with four gate ‘bridges’ connecting directly to the aircraft stands.
In order to handle the increased business there will also be nine new additional aircraft stands, together with new taxiway and apron facilities, as well as a 20,000 square metre development at the north eastern end of the runway, providing facilities for maintenance and cargo handling and processing.
The new North Side Business Park will include 18,600 square metres of high quality office space and, together with the planned 100-bed ‘lodge’ style hotel and restaurant, will create an impressive new development around the main access route to the Airport from the A67.
A detailed Environmental Statement has been submitted with the planning application, examining a comprehensive range of issues including noise, air quality, surface transport access, hydrogeology, landscape, cultural heritage and the local ecology. This also considers construction impacts of the development and outlines the contents of a Construction Management Plan to control them.
Explains Hugh Lang “I believe that this is a massively important development for the Tees Valley and the surrounding areas of North Yorkshire and Durham. From the Airport’s point of view the facts are very clear—we will reach the maximum capacity of the current terminal facilities, at 1.2million passengers a year, by 2007. The plans we have now submitted will enable us to move forward over the next decade, with the prospect of hitting three million passengers a year by 2015.
“They underline the commitment of Peel Airports to maximising the potential of Durham Tees Valley by providing the quality of facilities and services demanded by both passengers and airlines and ensuring that we fully exploit the commercial opportunities of the whole airport site.
“The last year has been our busiest on record, with many of our partner airlines, including bmi, bmibaby, Ryanair and Eastern Airways all expanding their services, and prospects for 2005 are also excellent, with the introduction for example, of new services to Paris and Cork in Ireland. The proposals we are now putting forward will enable us to maintain the momentum in the years ahead and succeed in a very tough and competitive market.
Peter Nears, Strategic Planning Director for Peel Airports said, “Obviously, we expect that there will be a great deal of interest in the proposals and over the coming weeks, as the local authorities consider the applications, we will be making every effort to provide as much information as possible. For example, the full planning documentation will be available for viewing at the Information Desk in the Airport Terminal, as well as at the local authorities and we will be staging an exhibition on the proposals at the Airport.
“In all the discussions and consultations we have had so far with a wide range of interests during the course of preparing this application including the Scoping Exercise held in the Summer of 2004 we have been greatly encouraged by the widespread recognition that a successful and growing airport is vital both in terms of direct jobs and investment and the overall economic regeneration of the Tees Valley City Region.”
To download a copy of the Non Technical Summary of the submission please click here (Right click and select "save target as...")
Also has anyone heard the rumour about the Cork being done by another airline and the Paris being increased to a daily service? Can anyone shed any light. It would, if true be a more sensible option than having Paris only 4 times a week. Has anyone any news on the Prague? Will it be back in the winter or is there a possibility that another airline is going to do it this summer or the hoped for second baby to do it?
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: northern england
Posts: 72
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
that BAL programme submitted earlier has mostly NCL flight numbers do you know something we dont?
does this make me a spotter?
isnt teeside always fogged out anyway?
oh that spotter thing again,
must buy a copy of asain babes
does this make me a spotter?
isnt teeside always fogged out anyway?
oh that spotter thing again,
must buy a copy of asain babes
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Teesside, UK
Age: 33
Posts: 1,100
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Anyone got any other info to add? eg about the based AEU/JKK patterns on a friday........also BY operating a non-based IBZ flight on a monday
mmeteesside
mmeteesside
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Darlington
Posts: 214
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Looks like that the Thomas Cook Mahon rotation on a Friday has been cancelled. IT's have decreased by quite a bit from the early plans.
And I would have thought that if a 2nd bmibaby aircraft was being based for the summer, it would have been announced by now
And I would have thought that if a 2nd bmibaby aircraft was being based for the summer, it would have been announced by now
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Here, there & everywhere
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Sorry guys but no based AEU / JKK and no second based baby. The Monday REU has been scrapped.
The Air Wales is operating on a 6G flight no and is selling alongside baby but is not on behalf of baby.
The Air Wales is operating on a 6G flight no and is selling alongside baby but is not on behalf of baby.
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 615
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
why does bmibaby only have one based aircraft?! when most regional airports start off with two minimum?
There is certainly no real inbound potential surely... does anyone know of the success (or otherwise) of the FR Rome route? Id be interested to know.
There is certainly no real inbound potential surely... does anyone know of the success (or otherwise) of the FR Rome route? Id be interested to know.
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Teesside, UK
Age: 33
Posts: 1,100
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Shame about the TCX being canx, same with the Reus AEU flight........anyone know what type the JKK flights are gonna be, hopefully A320/1.
Any chance of DTV gaining a flight or two/upgrade with KLM, seeing as they're reducing at NCL.
mmeteesside
Any chance of DTV gaining a flight or two/upgrade with KLM, seeing as they're reducing at NCL.
mmeteesside
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Darlington
Posts: 214
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi Stuart 212
The BY programme is to flown by a B738 I believe, and the timetable was posted back in Decmeber on the 1st page of this thread. I don't think it has changed from that, well I hope not anyway!
Nakata 77,
There may not be a huge inbound potential, but that is why they changed the name- to attract more inbound passengers, I guess they thought that Durham would attract more tourists than the name Teesside?? Still the bmi baby flights were very popular during the summer. Alicante even managed 96% load factor in December. (I think bmibaby made a mistake with 3 flights a week to PMI and only 2 to ALC during the winter)
Looks like bmi have slightly changed the times on the early morning LHR service, leaving MME at 07:15 arr LHR at 08:30 and first flight from LHR is 09:15, which is over 2 hours later than last summer when it was at 07:00!!
The BY programme is to flown by a B738 I believe, and the timetable was posted back in Decmeber on the 1st page of this thread. I don't think it has changed from that, well I hope not anyway!
Nakata 77,
There may not be a huge inbound potential, but that is why they changed the name- to attract more inbound passengers, I guess they thought that Durham would attract more tourists than the name Teesside?? Still the bmi baby flights were very popular during the summer. Alicante even managed 96% load factor in December. (I think bmibaby made a mistake with 3 flights a week to PMI and only 2 to ALC during the winter)
Looks like bmi have slightly changed the times on the early morning LHR service, leaving MME at 07:15 arr LHR at 08:30 and first flight from LHR is 09:15, which is over 2 hours later than last summer when it was at 07:00!!
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Darlington
Posts: 214
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
According to the CAA there was a 41% increase in passengers between MME and LHR in December a total of 16740. (1500 more passengers that travelled between LBA and LHR) So what haapens for the summer, back down to 3 a day Sun-Fri and one rotation on a Sat, plus the times have changed even more, and the 1st departure from LHR is at 10:05! Doesn't look like a good time to me, apart from maybe connections from long haul flights??? Or would it have more to do with bmi advertising LBA to LCY at MME?? (leaflets at bmi check in) While we are on the subject loads of Jet 2 advertising on buses in Darlington. Where is the bmibaby advertising??
According to the Airtours website, Costa Dorada(Reus) is still bookable, and still flown by Astraeus. Has this really been cancelled?
Anymore news on what IT flights are actually going to operate?
Free (?) bus service from Darlington railway station starting in May.
And I hear that the road signs are finally going to say Durham Tees Valley after an agreement with the Highways Agency!
According to the Airtours website, Costa Dorada(Reus) is still bookable, and still flown by Astraeus. Has this really been cancelled?
Anymore news on what IT flights are actually going to operate?
Free (?) bus service from Darlington railway station starting in May.
And I hear that the road signs are finally going to say Durham Tees Valley after an agreement with the Highways Agency!