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Old 9th Sep 2005, 15:09
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GrahamK that is true and the load factors are very similar mid 80%s, but with the competion at NCL and LBA which provide better fequencies than MME I honestly can't see MME actually picking up many more passengers on the Dublin when it goes over to an 800. Yes there may be a small increase due to more seats being available at lower prices but if they don't provide a second flight a day to cater for people on business I can't see them keeping the load factors in the mid 80%s.
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Newquay may well be out-performing Malaga, Palma and Alicante.....that's because Newquay has 4 flights a week, with Palma and Alicante on 2 each, Malaga has 3......

I think the Rome flight has done well, either equaling, or being not too far behind, the NCL-BGY numbers, however the MME-CIA has competition (EZY NCL-CIA) whereas NCL-BGY has not. Therefore surely when it equals the numbers, that means the MME performs better than NCL (Hope I didn't confuse you all there! )

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It appears in reading the various posts on this topic, that there is some focus on available routes, timings & load factors. There was some media promotion in that MME had (annualised) reached the 1 Million pax p.a. However this was always historically a benchmarking threshold set presumably when pax. numbers were substatntially less.
The point is that now that this target has been reached it has been done so with the substantial assistance of LoCo at much reduced margins for the airport as well as the airlines, so how much better off is the airport "year to year" than say 4 years ago? Or looking forwards is it not that the critical number of passengers required to break even is rising faster than the actual increase in numbers using the airport & if so to address this then where are these additional pax. to come from ?
Peel who also operates DSA has done with an exmilitary field in 18 months in terms of airlines & pax. numbers, more than the other various operators of MME have achieved over the last 40 years on taking over Midleton St George with similar facilities.
Peel came on board some years ago now with all sorts of hype about prospects, but clearly very little has happened as the "big boys" and critical mass in terms of pax. numbers are ever increasing.
DSA is clearly their "new baby" & many of those residing on the southern boundaries of MME's catchment area must be seen as targets for DSA, a conflict in itself.
So where does the airport go from here?, as real progress to date would be reflected if current pax numbers were approaching 2 Million........is this ever likely this decade & even if achieved, then will the goal posts themselves simply have moved on by then ?
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I agree completely skyman.

I don't think Peel has done as much as what I had expected or hoped for.

Sure things have improved but not to where they need to be.
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Just found out that First Choice have added a flight to Lanzarote on a Thursday, op by Spanair So next summer looks like this.... [see below!]

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Astraeus (op by Eirjet?)
Reus 0840 2110 1------ AEU

Balkan Holidays
Bourgas 1810 1710 1------ BGH

Helios
Larnaca 1100 1000 --3---- HCY405/404

Iberworld
Arrecife 1510 1400 ---4--- IWD
Palma 1710 1610 -----6- IWD

Pegasus
Dalaman 2125 2020 1------ PGT

Spanair
Arrecife 1325 1215 ---4--- JKK
Ibiza 2255 2155 ----5-- JKK
Palma 2020 1155 -----6- JKK3192/3191
Alicante 1250 1925 -----6- JKK

Thomsonfly.com
Palma 0705 1320 1------ BY4135/4136
Dalaman 1450 0030+1 1------ BY4103/4104
Alicante 0700 1335 -2----- BY4043/4044
Tenerife South 1500 0050+1 -2----- BY4021/4022
Paphos 0900 1930 --3---- BY4233/4234
Monastir 2055 0435+1 --3---- BY4275/4276
Palma 0700 2105 ---4--- BY4429/4430
Corfu 0845 1630 ----5-- BY4579/4580
Bourgas 1800 0200+1 ----5-- BY4585/4586
Mahon 0700 1325 -----6- BY4383/4384
Reus 1455 2040 -----6- BY4005/4006
Palma 2215 0430+1 -----6- BY4537/4538
Malaga 0745 1440 ------7 BY4139/4140
Bodrum 1615 0145+1 ------7 BY4101/4102

Ibiza 1540 1425 1------ BY4175/4176

TBA
Mahon 1215 1820 ----5-- TBA


02/12/05 Lapland Daytrip/2 nights
04/12/05 Vienna Daytrip
04/12/05 Lapland Daytrip
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Rumoured that MME will see 2 aircraft from TOM next summer.

This topic may be of interest:
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=48412
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Old 4th Oct 2005, 15:54
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To meet the new requirements the thread has been renamed.......

Anyway, on with the news, July pax numbers have been officially released.

DTV managed 97847 in July 2005, up from 86831 in July 2004, a percentage rise of 13% (lucky for some ). This puts us above Isle Of Man (71413), Exeter (92401) and Bournemouth (90662), those being the closest behind us . Our next target is the 171956 set by London City! Might take a while to reach that

bmi's LHR route was up 9%, Eastern's Aberdeen was up 19% (mainly due to the introduction of J41's twice a day) with the only other domestic routes both being way up! Newquay 100% (due to no service last July) and Jersey +32%

The internationals also did well....
Alicante was down (mixed in with charter)
Amsterdam -6%
Cork +100% (new service)
Dublin -4%
Malaga was down (mixed in with charter)
Nice -100% (no service this summer )
Palma was down (mixed in with charter)
Paris CDG +100% (new service)
Rome Ciampino +100% (8527 pax, avg 137 per flight, 72.5% load factor)

Newcastle's Milan Bergamo (FR) isn't shown for some reason

Shame to see that Baby's Spanish routes were down, but I believe this is due to a reduction in frequency........come on Baby, do it properly or don't do it at all!

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