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Well we landed today , what a lovely sight i saw, a Lovely BIG virgin Atlantic plane doing tests runs at EMA, plane spotters would have loved it, going up and down, we as crew were mesmorised, please , well if only VS would come here ? now we are dreaming........
But if VS has a super plane , i think it was a A340 ? why can't other carriers , big ones i mean , come to EMA?
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Well we landed today , what a lovely sight i saw, a Lovely BIG virgin Atlantic plane doing tests runs at EMA, plane spotters would have loved it, going up and down, we as crew were mesmorised, please , well if only VS would come here ? now we are dreaming........
But if VS has a super plane , i think it was a A340 ? why can't other carriers , big ones i mean , come to EMA?
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You can quote all the passenger numbers you like, and talk about expansion too, but it doesn't alter the fact that the owners have failed to invest, even minimally, in infrastructure for the pax.
Consider that nowhere airside do they show you which gate the flight is going from, until the last minute. The desks which the staff have to use at the airside departure gates are less than useless. They stopped using these systems at Manchester in the 1970's! The printers never work, and you can't get pax lists and loadsheets off them without a load of hassle. All this does is frustrate pax and staff alike, and has been known to cause delays.
Why are there no dedicated gates for EZY & FR? There are gates which are used regularly, but they are anything but dedicated. If it has been raining heavily, the pax have to tramp through deep puddles of water in some areas. Both EZY & FR have had significant complaints from pax about the airport, which will hardly give them encouragement to operate new routes from EMA.
To change this would not cost a lot of money, but of course tarting up the retaurants and coffee shops is much more of a priority for the owners. This will doubtless subject the lessees to higher rents, and of course the customers to higher prices, and thus complaints.
Consider that nowhere airside do they show you which gate the flight is going from, until the last minute. The desks which the staff have to use at the airside departure gates are less than useless. They stopped using these systems at Manchester in the 1970's! The printers never work, and you can't get pax lists and loadsheets off them without a load of hassle. All this does is frustrate pax and staff alike, and has been known to cause delays.
Why are there no dedicated gates for EZY & FR? There are gates which are used regularly, but they are anything but dedicated. If it has been raining heavily, the pax have to tramp through deep puddles of water in some areas. Both EZY & FR have had significant complaints from pax about the airport, which will hardly give them encouragement to operate new routes from EMA.
To change this would not cost a lot of money, but of course tarting up the retaurants and coffee shops is much more of a priority for the owners. This will doubtless subject the lessees to higher rents, and of course the customers to higher prices, and thus complaints.
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The IDL expansion now underway, including new gates, should have been open last summer but for NWLDC, the other point is of course that the LCC's pay little if anything to the airport for the privilige of pushing pax through-the airport, to make a profit and survive needs those restaurants and coffee shops to prosper and generate income
Fair enough, but the provision of TV monitors which show in advance which gate the flight is going from, and computer terminals/printers which work when prompted does not cost a king's ransom. It's about allocation of resources.
Which is more important - passenger satisfaction (which will in turn drive up the throughput), or a new bicycle shed?
The congestion in the terminal last summer was horrendous, and then when it rained heavily, a not unknown occurrence in this country, the terminal flooded, and not for the first time.
I fear that those in control of the airport are merely tinkering with it rather than sitting down and planning the future. The ridiculous business with the name is surely testament to this.
Which is more important - passenger satisfaction (which will in turn drive up the throughput), or a new bicycle shed?
The congestion in the terminal last summer was horrendous, and then when it rained heavily, a not unknown occurrence in this country, the terminal flooded, and not for the first time.
I fear that those in control of the airport are merely tinkering with it rather than sitting down and planning the future. The ridiculous business with the name is surely testament to this.
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Leicester Mercury - Friday 4th MArch 2005
" Up to 45,000 extra planes are to fly out of Nottingham East Midlands Airport each year.
The news comes just days after the airport was told it could introduce new flight paths over Leicestershire.
At the time of that announcement, the airport said the new airspace would not be "a licence to grow".
However, its environment manager Neil Robinson has since told the Leicester Mercury it is planning to increase flights by as much as 50 per cent, although he would not be drawn on when this would happen.
He said: "We would be looking to grow by 50 per cent.
"Like any other business, we hope that it continues to be successful and grows."
More than likely relates to Cargo flights - BUT could we see an expansion on the EZY and FR front ?
Let's hope so, after all WW are going nowhere at EMA with all their efforts seeming to be at BHX.
" Up to 45,000 extra planes are to fly out of Nottingham East Midlands Airport each year.
The news comes just days after the airport was told it could introduce new flight paths over Leicestershire.
At the time of that announcement, the airport said the new airspace would not be "a licence to grow".
However, its environment manager Neil Robinson has since told the Leicester Mercury it is planning to increase flights by as much as 50 per cent, although he would not be drawn on when this would happen.
He said: "We would be looking to grow by 50 per cent.
"Like any other business, we hope that it continues to be successful and grows."
More than likely relates to Cargo flights - BUT could we see an expansion on the EZY and FR front ?
Let's hope so, after all WW are going nowhere at EMA with all their efforts seeming to be at BHX.
Let me see - some junior school maths required here..
45,000 flights leaving EMA each year - that means 45,000 arriving too. So thats 90,000 per year.
That results, supposing my back-of-fag-packet calculation is correct (which it may well not be!!) a little short of 250 extra movements PER DAY!!! OK, at some stage in the distant future this sort of increase MAY be a possibility - but I think we'll be using something other then Jet A1 to fuel the aircraft by then!
One day local newspapers may once again start employing reporters interested in reporting FACTS not total c**p peddled by the NIMBYs from East Leicestershire who have been voiciferously oposing the changes in EMA airspace and routings since the day it was proposed.
45,000 flights leaving EMA each year - that means 45,000 arriving too. So thats 90,000 per year.
That results, supposing my back-of-fag-packet calculation is correct (which it may well not be!!) a little short of 250 extra movements PER DAY!!! OK, at some stage in the distant future this sort of increase MAY be a possibility - but I think we'll be using something other then Jet A1 to fuel the aircraft by then!
One day local newspapers may once again start employing reporters interested in reporting FACTS not total c**p peddled by the NIMBYs from East Leicestershire who have been voiciferously oposing the changes in EMA airspace and routings since the day it was proposed.
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Affirmative ATNotts.
Stand by for data from the CAA:
Aircraft movements for 2003 = 90,000
Ditto for 2004 ca. 95,000.
Robbo quotes 50% growth...
Err, that's a little more than 45,000 aircraft movements.
I wonder if some naughty person is giving out just the air transport movements (56,000 ATMs in 2004)? Much better PR to quote 50% of this methinks!
Around forty movements per hour (depending on the mix) on the runway at 24/7, that's...
...pass my calculator please.
I wouldn't like to be a NIMBY or anyone else for that matter trying to get a wink of sleep under that lot at peak times!
Stand by for data from the CAA:
Aircraft movements for 2003 = 90,000
Ditto for 2004 ca. 95,000.
Robbo quotes 50% growth...
Err, that's a little more than 45,000 aircraft movements.
I wonder if some naughty person is giving out just the air transport movements (56,000 ATMs in 2004)? Much better PR to quote 50% of this methinks!
Around forty movements per hour (depending on the mix) on the runway at 24/7, that's...
...pass my calculator please.
I wouldn't like to be a NIMBY or anyone else for that matter trying to get a wink of sleep under that lot at peak times!
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Anyone got any idea as to what the two BA a/c were doing loitering at EMA yesterday (07 March)? Couldn't quite see what type they were, but they stayed for a little while and then at least one flew out around 22.00 I believe.
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The BA aircraft were properly there for maintainence, bmi does maintenance on GB Airways Airbus fleet quite regularly.
An article in the Leicester Mercury yday ( 7th March) stated Ryanair are planning to increase their flights from NEMA in 2006. They quoted Michael O'Leary as saying the routes would probably be from NEMA to new bases in Europe. Sounds like NEMA will not become a FR base but a 'focus city' for their operations.
The article also said easyJet has NEMA on their list of possible expansion opportunites, which are being considered.
Bmibaby are also constantly evaluating route opportunities from NEMA and all the other baby bases!
An article in the Leicester Mercury yday ( 7th March) stated Ryanair are planning to increase their flights from NEMA in 2006. They quoted Michael O'Leary as saying the routes would probably be from NEMA to new bases in Europe. Sounds like NEMA will not become a FR base but a 'focus city' for their operations.
The article also said easyJet has NEMA on their list of possible expansion opportunites, which are being considered.
Bmibaby are also constantly evaluating route opportunities from NEMA and all the other baby bases!
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Oh right, the a/c in BA livery in that case, weren't using "Speedbird" callsigns - at least not the one I heard taking off. So that might explain why.
Expansion sounds all well and good, but no doubt there'll be the usual troop of people complaining about an airport that's provided thousands of local people jobs for more than 25 years.
Expansion sounds all well and good, but no doubt there'll be the usual troop of people complaining about an airport that's provided thousands of local people jobs for more than 25 years.
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Is there any prospect of any further expansion of services at NEMA in the near future (either low cost or legacy)? The airport seems to have hit a period of stagnation and I find it difficult to think of any potential sources of major expansion.
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I notice Air Malta now sell a scheduled weekly flight from EMA - MLA on Wednesdays, with a KM, not KMC, prefix.
Shome EMA has not mentioned it on their website. In fact the airports own website it really out of date on many pages, maybe that is an indication of the general lethargy in the company?
Shome EMA has not mentioned it on their website. In fact the airports own website it really out of date on many pages, maybe that is an indication of the general lethargy in the company?
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I agree the NEMA website is often WELL out of date on many pages!
For example:
Low cost carrier bmibaby will be serving 22 destinations this winter, offering a great mix of destinations on the continent and Ireland. They include Milan, Prague, Dublin, Belfast and Cork.
and
[I]easyJet have introduced their first service from Nottingham East Midlands Airport in the form of a daily flight to Geneva. Flights start from £15 one way, and can be booked online.
Source: http://www.nottinghamema.com/en/dest...hts/scheduled/
For example:
Low cost carrier bmibaby will be serving 22 destinations this winter, offering a great mix of destinations on the continent and Ireland. They include Milan, Prague, Dublin, Belfast and Cork.
and
[I]easyJet have introduced their first service from Nottingham East Midlands Airport in the form of a daily flight to Geneva. Flights start from £15 one way, and can be booked online.
Source: http://www.nottinghamema.com/en/dest...hts/scheduled/
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