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Old 23rd Jul 2005, 22:36
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Dont i know it when im out there working on the ramp, i cant see FCA dropping the lunchtime TFS thats quite popular prob their use a aircraft on a W pattern like the A320 based a EXT used in the winter to go to AGP as a example. Who knows wot the airlines choose to do. Is MYT going again this winter like last and TCX take over during the winter again, den they swap over in the summer so MYT operate again?
 
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MYT going again at end of summer, TCX dont take over, they only operated an ACE and TFS last winter, although i believe they're doing 4 flights this winter comeing, Airtours hols will then share on different operators as last year, they usually share on FCA for quite a few as do Thomas Cook in the winter, this is why I dont understand FCA not wanting to lay on more services from BRS especially in the winter, i'm sure theres the market for it, mind you they still do more than BY in the winter.
I think this winter is going to be pretty busy by all accounts, especially with the KM staying and TCX x 4 plus the BY and FCA units, is XLA staying for the winter aswell?
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Old 23rd Jul 2005, 22:54
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I'm Pretty sure XLA are too, as im flying to TFS wth XLA in December this year so they must do jst like KM.
 
Old 23rd Jul 2005, 23:19
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But funny as its sounds we are gettin more steps in the coming months
The extra steps are being brought in because pretty soon all the EZY 737's will have thier forward airstairs removed which means that two sets of steps will be required for each aircraft. Also BRS is to become a 319 station in the not too distant future and as we all know, the A319 needs two sets of steps.

The new tug that Servisair are bringing is just a heavier more powerfull tug. An extra tug was needed and they decided to buy one that could also push a 767. It dosn't mean that there will be extra flights it just makes sense to have a tug that can push every type of aircraft that uses BRS.
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Old 23rd Jul 2005, 23:26
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CO 77 - 172 Pax plus 4 Babies!!!
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dont know where the 767 XLA rumour came from?? would be nice though!!maybe it stems from the very strong cwl new base rumours there are to be 12 destinations operated next summer not sure if W patterns though or if we will actually have a new base.AAI have taken over tcd so maybe XLA will operate sanford from cwl who knows maybe a double drop brs-cwl-sfb!!! would love to beat fca to it out of brs!! as for an XLA winter base looking 99% def at moment heard km will operate egypts and xla ski flights, canaries and tunisia.also heard flug 400-s at brs and ncl are due to go to the states for the winter (shame)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. so hopefully if base is all year it will be with the 800!!. rampboy767... this is'nt XLA'S first year at brs we had a brs base last year ( a small one ) and xla have had flights going for a few years using man or lgw crew so we've always had a good reputation at brs ( although this summer the flug's letting us down big time ) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!.and you mention BY they used to have a 757 and A320. A320 was operated by bhx crew they just seem to plod along with 1 a/c and no new routes fca are the best charter in brs if we had 800-s back XLA would give them a run for their money!!!!

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Old 24th Jul 2005, 02:45
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Yeah well we thought we had got rid of the flug too!!! Can't say I was to thrilled when I saw it on an early morning oh so long ago!!!

We would love to see you expand too but you are slightly different being mainly seat only compared to package
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Old 24th Jul 2005, 10:33
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BY 320? Dont think so!
It was 2 757s a few yrs back, Thomsons dont use Airbus as far as i know, someone put me in my place if i'm wrong
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Old 24th Jul 2005, 10:35
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Britannia leased 3 A320s from TransAer a few years back. AFAIK, they were based at LBA, GLA and BRS/MAN.
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Old 24th Jul 2005, 12:58
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Graham is right about the Britannia 320s. They operated some flights in/out of BRS in the summer of 1999 along with the based 757. The 320 may well have been based for part of each week that summer.

From memory they were painted in the Britannia livery of that period although I have a vague memory that it was not a complete Britannia livery. I may be wrong on this point.

BY operated about 25 weekly flights that summer compared to Air 2000 (First Choice) at around 16. As WATABENCH has said, FCA have certainly forged ahead since then.

In checking old timetables etc I find that BY operated a fortnightly 767 flight from BRS to Orlando in summer 1995 (or it may have been Sanford if BY used that airport then), undoubtedly via another airport because of the R-word.

I seem to remember Britannia flights to the Dominican Republic some time in the 1990s but only about three one summer. I believe it was a year when Thomson decided to operate to that part of the Island of Hispaniola from several UK airports not normally associated with such flights, but only two or three from each airport.
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Believe the BRS-Orlando flights operated via SNN.
IIRC, the Britannia A320s, were all white apart from Britannia titles and the lady on the tail. A.c were on Irish reg
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Think the BRS - Orlando went to MCO not SFB.

Again the flight went direct on most flights when operated by GBYAA and GBYAB ( bettar ( Bristolian!!!) engines).

When operated by the likes of GBOPB it went via SNN but most went direct with full pax and even cargo !!
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BY def had A320 operating out of brs and it was in 1999 the bhx were operating it as brs by crew are only trained on the boeing.it did a fair few flights but was not based there all week ( i think ).XLA could never compete with fca as i said they are clearly the best charter in brs however a few years ago BY and airtours were always seen as the biggest and best how things have changed!!!
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The reason for the steps in not coz EZY are removing their steps, as that idea has gone out the window. But EZY will make BRS an all airbus base by the end of the year. FCA are the biggest and S'Air doing great handling their flights. As today my crew had 2 FCA flights the MIR onload and LPA-IBZ turnround plus aload of EZY flights and finished with the EI turnround. Im sure BY with increase their flights one day, but im sure XLA will not be far after FCA once they contuine to expland.
 
Old 24th Jul 2005, 22:21
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I think FCA's main monopoly and faveratism is due to the demise of BY. I always flew with BY with the lady on the tail great service hardly ever any problems. The mistakes they have made have helped FCA grow I know 100's of people who used to fly BY to FAO I did at least once a year haven't been since BY dropped it also haven't been back on BY. What makes great companies great is their reputation, BY threw this away when they became 'Tui' and its losing even more rep by now going ThomsonFly. In the industry now of so many low cost flights the only way to take pax off of them is to offer them a decent service which comes from reputation. The package deals aren't that more expensive say 10%. If you are a coke a cola drinker and some one offers you a cheaper alternative at 10% cheeper you will go with reputation - this is what BY have lost FCA are steady with and XLA are earning!
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But EZY will make BRS an all airbus base by the end of the year
Then you have just answered your question as to why Servisair have just brought extra steps..........

And I think you should ask again about the airstairs being removed from the easyjets.
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Hi there folks yep summer of 99 DEF saw the A320 used to operate 4 days a week i think it was. Wednesday mornings that summer were really busy for BY. 3 757s and the A320 plus FCL (my beloved colours) and VZ,DP plus all the schelduled stuff.
Did see a Santo Domingo BY 767 200 in i think it was 97 remember loads of **** with bags mixed in all the ULDs and a full bag id was required. I think it was a SDQ - BRS/MAN but not sure.
FCA success at BRS is not suprising due to being established for a long time. Plus took loads of seats and a few of the old slots that JMC/TCX had.
Certainly miss BY old lady many very happy memorys of driving to work along the A38 and seeing the 757 sat on echo 2 in the first light of the morning. Really miss the old terminal atmosphere completly changed after the move into the new one.
I believe from a few people that pass through from time to time that its not as personal as it was before its a shame.
Anyhow take care peeps.

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Old 25th Jul 2005, 09:32
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Well that me with me foot in my mouth then! I stand corrected about BY 320s
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Old 25th Jul 2005, 18:14
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Going on about routes, how come no one has took up the CPH route since EZY dropped it over a year ago? Where as all round year routes like GVA and ZUR seem to be very popular but more so in the winter last have been recented started in the past 12months.
 
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Was that a nice shiny new set of steps which trundled along Downside Road this afternoon. My we are spending big, aren't we/
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