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I also chose to ignore a bristolian for the purpose of day dreaming.
Oh lord, please grace us with that huge wing span flying low over the welsh valley's, accompanied by the glorius drones of paddy atc chatter......
Oh lord, please grace us with that huge wing span flying low over the welsh valley's, accompanied by the glorius drones of paddy atc chatter......
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767 is better than a330 in my opinion, theres no need for a A330 at BRS on short haul or long haul routes. As the 767 is a widebody aircraft that can use BRS apron and rwy. Britannia with prob base a 767 nxt summer or at least it will be used a few times a week, compared to once weekly on the palma. As S'air is getting a brand new push back tug to push 767 aircraft, which we will get in a couple of weeks. The only time in the next few years ur see a A330 at BRS is if EK started using them 2 Dubai which is along way off. The rumour wth Aer Lingus and long haul was which a 767 not A330, even though EI dont have any 767s in their fleet. A strong rumour is maybe firstchoice nxt year doing a long haul wth a 767.
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Sorry rampboy but you is wrong!!!
EI will be operating a couple of extra flights next Feb from/to DUB for the 6 nations with a A330-200. A330's can and have used the runway and ramp. Can't see Brit basing a 767 here next year as they have opened up a base in CWL featuring a 76 and long haul. EI haven't got any plans to convert to Boeing aircraft so why just buy 1 767, and the FCA rumour is as long as my... (erm thinks LONG and HARD ha) right arm which was squashed after they brought out their 2006 summer flights and announced they aren't getting the 4 767's till next winter. I reckon we will have to wait till we get the 787 to see FCA go Long Haul, another airline may do before but not FCA.
Oh yeah forgot to comment on the CO loads 150 + outbound last 3 days plus really busy for the next month or so I/B are steady at 60% load at the moment but looks good.
Spoke to Co rep who agreed with the theory that it was always going to be 5 a week in the winter!!! He also informed me that a 767 would have no problems landing and taking off for direct flights and just for good measure he said neither would that 777!!!
One last thing if Air India are around a friend of mine wants a daily service to Bombay for him and his family. There you go R G got it in for you.
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EI will be operating a couple of extra flights next Feb from/to DUB for the 6 nations with a A330-200. A330's can and have used the runway and ramp. Can't see Brit basing a 767 here next year as they have opened up a base in CWL featuring a 76 and long haul. EI haven't got any plans to convert to Boeing aircraft so why just buy 1 767, and the FCA rumour is as long as my... (erm thinks LONG and HARD ha) right arm which was squashed after they brought out their 2006 summer flights and announced they aren't getting the 4 767's till next winter. I reckon we will have to wait till we get the 787 to see FCA go Long Haul, another airline may do before but not FCA.
Oh yeah forgot to comment on the CO loads 150 + outbound last 3 days plus really busy for the next month or so I/B are steady at 60% load at the moment but looks good.
Spoke to Co rep who agreed with the theory that it was always going to be 5 a week in the winter!!! He also informed me that a 767 would have no problems landing and taking off for direct flights and just for good measure he said neither would that 777!!!
One last thing if Air India are around a friend of mine wants a daily service to Bombay for him and his family. There you go R G got it in for you.
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I am glad someone has realised the CWL longhaul pottential ie. BY!!
We have been talking about this for a few years now, various airlines looking hard at the BRS r/way performance V different widebodies, when there is an airport only 50 miles away ready to handle it!!
Madness!!
We have been talking about this for a few years now, various airlines looking hard at the BRS r/way performance V different widebodies, when there is an airport only 50 miles away ready to handle it!!
Madness!!
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In the next 12months u will see more airlines use larger aircraft like 767 if they choose and why would a company buy a pushback tug to push one aircraft? The money made on a 767 turnround and pushback is loads and once those winter mayflys come out end sept/october we will see. The 767 based at CWL is hardly big and to shout about, its only got 2 seats more thn a 757. I have been speakin to FCA and BY engineers both said FCA will wait a year but BY could base a 767 at BRS or if not use it on a daily basis from other bases like the palma route. BY is doing quite well at BRS for a change, but will not base another A/C coz the airport will not reduce the land fees and parking fees to base 2 aircraft unlike EZY or FCA. BRS is way ahead of CWL even those they got a few more long haul routes like Zoom. Time will tell how sucessfully they will be and if they BFS than not very popular, which already cancelled flighs operated by BWIA and CO is not doing as well as BRS. How come BRS got the CO route and not CWL even tho they do more long haul routes? Any more know want airlines will be basing at BRS this winter? Like usual BY, TCX, FCA, XLA, KM etc?
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Rampboy: I'm curious. What exactly is an "interclean road way?" Have ICS had their hosepipes out???
On other subjects: just to confirm that CO were always going to 5 flights a week in the winter schedule, this was never a rumour, always a fact, and that 767's will only be used if the 757 is unavailable. Ryanair start daily Shannon on October 30th STD 1850. I doubt whether we will see "more airlines using larger aircraft like the 767" because there simply isn't anywhere to park them. The AN12 this Sunday is Volare cargo: it arrives from Kiev and goes to Niamey (Niger) via Ghadaia in Algeria with Red Cross landrovers.
Titan are operating the Euromanx OLB, SOU and BIA charters this weekend using their own flight numbers. They say if all goes well they may well fly the program for the rest of the season. Anyone with any common sense knew that EMX couldn't go on like they were!
Rampboy: reference the new tug. Common sense would surely suggest that the money being spent on one new tug would be much more wisely spent on the equipment that S'Air actually need on a daily basis? I can think of an towbars for ATR42, J41 and S340, more steps which there aren't enough of, more GPU's etc etc, all of which would help the operation. Why spend money on a towbar for an a/c that comes in once a week??
On other subjects: just to confirm that CO were always going to 5 flights a week in the winter schedule, this was never a rumour, always a fact, and that 767's will only be used if the 757 is unavailable. Ryanair start daily Shannon on October 30th STD 1850. I doubt whether we will see "more airlines using larger aircraft like the 767" because there simply isn't anywhere to park them. The AN12 this Sunday is Volare cargo: it arrives from Kiev and goes to Niamey (Niger) via Ghadaia in Algeria with Red Cross landrovers.
Titan are operating the Euromanx OLB, SOU and BIA charters this weekend using their own flight numbers. They say if all goes well they may well fly the program for the rest of the season. Anyone with any common sense knew that EMX couldn't go on like they were!
Rampboy: reference the new tug. Common sense would surely suggest that the money being spent on one new tug would be much more wisely spent on the equipment that S'Air actually need on a daily basis? I can think of an towbars for ATR42, J41 and S340, more steps which there aren't enough of, more GPU's etc etc, all of which would help the operation. Why spend money on a towbar for an a/c that comes in once a week??
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The reason why we are getting a new pushback tug, is coz when they expanded the western apron and built a 767 stand to handle the BY aircraft it was 26N which was a pushback stand, but at the time S'air didnt want to spend money on a tug n bar 4 one aircraft and make another stand 26S to park the 767 to taxi off. But since we need more pushback tugs as we only have 4 one for BAs and 3 for Ramp. We need another to push 757s,A321,767s etc. But i find it funny how now the campany has desided to get one for the 767 and a new bar. I think its better having the equipment for new airlines to look that BRS can handle such aircraft and that theres more money to be made on a 767 turnround then anyother aircraft. We should be recieving the new tug in a couple of weeks. We are getting new steps which is need 7 sets total, one set a week so we here, and couple more electrial flatbeds. But no GPU's or Elect tugs which we need too. S'air needs to sort its act or in a years time a new handling agent could take over which will prob happen anyway.
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Theres gota be sumet fairly intresting in the pipeline if S-Air are getting new equipment, especially a 767 tug, may not be for a while though i expect, but theres a number of rumours to pick from if you want CO/FCA/BY/XLA all current 767 rumours.
If you ask me i'd imagine BY 767 doing more flights nxt summer, CO will stay with the 757, XLA 767 long haul wont come to anything, and FCA i would say a 50/50 of a SFB route for maybe Winter 06-07, As i said before all things considered BRS is FCAs 3rd busiest base, LGW-MAN-BRS-BHX, But they pulled a 767 from BHX a couple of yrs ago and put one into EMA, this was because of the runway length at BHX, as Windsheer said ages ago FCA like to fill the bellies with cargo to make extra cash, so I imagine if a SFB route did come along then FCA would be getting a stonking deal on the fees from BRS.
Rampboy - Do you really think another handling agent will come in? Honestly?
Methinks not, S-Air have the monopoly in BRS and it would be a massive effort for another agent to come in, I cant see that the airport would like it either, it would mean setting out a certain number of desks for each of them, not to mention finding office space, operations rooms, staff rooms, equipment bays, sorry mate I aint buying it, theres been so many rumours before, I mean apparently Menzies were down last week, but nothing will come of it, and with S-Air finally upgrading equipment its probably defo not gona happen, If only they spent some money to up the staffs wages, I dont work for S-air but know what most jobs average pay is, Check-in/Dispatch/Ramp - Its awful really they all do work really hard and deserve so much more
If you ask me i'd imagine BY 767 doing more flights nxt summer, CO will stay with the 757, XLA 767 long haul wont come to anything, and FCA i would say a 50/50 of a SFB route for maybe Winter 06-07, As i said before all things considered BRS is FCAs 3rd busiest base, LGW-MAN-BRS-BHX, But they pulled a 767 from BHX a couple of yrs ago and put one into EMA, this was because of the runway length at BHX, as Windsheer said ages ago FCA like to fill the bellies with cargo to make extra cash, so I imagine if a SFB route did come along then FCA would be getting a stonking deal on the fees from BRS.
Rampboy - Do you really think another handling agent will come in? Honestly?
Methinks not, S-Air have the monopoly in BRS and it would be a massive effort for another agent to come in, I cant see that the airport would like it either, it would mean setting out a certain number of desks for each of them, not to mention finding office space, operations rooms, staff rooms, equipment bays, sorry mate I aint buying it, theres been so many rumours before, I mean apparently Menzies were down last week, but nothing will come of it, and with S-Air finally upgrading equipment its probably defo not gona happen, If only they spent some money to up the staffs wages, I dont work for S-air but know what most jobs average pay is, Check-in/Dispatch/Ramp - Its awful really they all do work really hard and deserve so much more
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i no i mean the avainace in only rumour but they have been seen at BRS and i think if they do come, if would be well over a year or 2. As most airlines at BRS are happy wth the serivce we provide, even though eqipement is streched. But funny as its sounds we are gettin more steps in the coming months we have recieved one new set already and a new pushback tug coming august too. Ur rite i work on the ramp at BRS with S'air and we would love a pay rise again for our hard work and increased work load. I knew FCA operated loads of flights out of BRS but 3rd busiest thats good for BRS, jst cant understand why BY dont base another A/C or increase flights. Gd news 4 BRS that XLA and KM with been based here again this winter from prob a very successfully summer.
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I know FCA are very happy with their BRS base, it ticks along very nicely for them, and is very well run with a good OTP apart from when they have G-OOAF in going tech left right and centre! just wish they would realise the potential for expansion, even if its not long haul, I'm sure if they started a year round BJL or picked up on Egypt routes like BY and XLA have they'd fill them(lets just hope BRS keeps the routes after todays awful events), and whats the no AGP this summer all about?!
As it seems to of gone cold on the FCA-EXT base front maybe they're looking at further expansion in BRS, lets face it out of the charters in BRS in my opinion they have the best product and are a well recognised brand with more shops in the area than other brands such as Thomson and Thomas Cook thanks to the old Bakers Dolphin shop network.
I heard they were looking at a route to Morrocco but havent said anything as of yet, and they've added another Ski route for the winter, GNB i think.
I'm sure a Bristolian would let us know if sumet was going to happen tho!
As it seems to of gone cold on the FCA-EXT base front maybe they're looking at further expansion in BRS, lets face it out of the charters in BRS in my opinion they have the best product and are a well recognised brand with more shops in the area than other brands such as Thomson and Thomas Cook thanks to the old Bakers Dolphin shop network.
I heard they were looking at a route to Morrocco but havent said anything as of yet, and they've added another Ski route for the winter, GNB i think.
I'm sure a Bristolian would let us know if sumet was going to happen tho!
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3 Bombs in Sharm el Sheikh, killed nearly 100 people, lots of tourists, 2 hotels and a taxi rank hit, Sick Ba**tards
XLA something i heard in terminal, nothing really in it i dont think, just someone dreaming away
XLA something i heard in terminal, nothing really in it i dont think, just someone dreaming away
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Just wondering but can a push back tug only pushback one type of aircraft or does that depend on the tow-bar? So even if Servisair are getting a tug that could push back a 767 doesn’t mean it will be, but just be ‘nice to have’ for the occasional 767 that does come through. Last I heard was that BRS was to loose the weekly BY 763 Palma due to the expansion of their programme from Cardiff.
I’m also of the impression that Servisair have an agreement/contract that makes them the sole handling agent (apart from BA) for X number of years, something like three or four at least. I’d imagine Servisair would be keen to keep it that way too as I’ve been told that Bristol is the most profitable station for them.
I’m also of the impression that Servisair have an agreement/contract that makes them the sole handling agent (apart from BA) for X number of years, something like three or four at least. I’d imagine Servisair would be keen to keep it that way too as I’ve been told that Bristol is the most profitable station for them.
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The BY PMI wth 767-300 is still operating, the new pushback tug is designed to push 767, 757 and A321 aircraft, any smaller and the sher pins would brake under the pressure of the tug. BRS is a very profitable Station for S'air, i cant BY cancelling the PMI serivce since it comes from PMI and prob the flight b4 was to/from MAN not CWL which would prob be opearted by their 767-200 which is based at CWL. It would not suprise if S'air got a agreement wth the airport for a few years to be the sole agent. I think the BY 767 nxt summer will 3/4times a week compared to the weekly serivce at the mom, coz S'Air would buy the tug to push 767 jst once week so i think they know sumthing to buy a tug to use on A321, 757 which are normal at BRS and 767 like the BY. But its prob on more than jst a weekly serivce, they just would not justif buying other wise. I mean its took S'Air months to decide to bother buying a tug n bar for a 767 there must be more demand for it than most ppl know at the mom, coz they dont like spending money on equipment for the airport but keep it as profit for the company lol.
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I think in the long run there will be more 767's but it may not be for a long while yet. If the bar is used for 321's 757's as well as the 767 it makes sense to buy one that can operate all three. Therefore you can accept larger diverts etc, I don't think they would have bought it just on the chance of more immenant 76's.
CO76 - 146 PAX CO77 - 176 PAX today not sure where the extra 4 sat!!!
CO76 - 146 PAX CO77 - 176 PAX today not sure where the extra 4 sat!!!
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Too right Rampboy, a little known holiday season has just started!
Lets hope the figs stay up in Sept.
Just been flicking through the Thomas Cook summer 06 brochure, they have seats on FCA-NAP on a Friday, anybody know if this is additional to MYT and BY or is one or the other pulling out of the route and FCA taking it, looking at the FCA programme, it'd either have to be another a/c on a W pattern or they're pull their lunchtime TFS.
Lets hope the figs stay up in Sept.
Just been flicking through the Thomas Cook summer 06 brochure, they have seats on FCA-NAP on a Friday, anybody know if this is additional to MYT and BY or is one or the other pulling out of the route and FCA taking it, looking at the FCA programme, it'd either have to be another a/c on a W pattern or they're pull their lunchtime TFS.