Manchester Happenings (Merged)

[Scottie Dog]

Well the posting by TCM certainly makes it look as if Manchester is still going to look forward to a positive Summer.

Also seen posted elsewhere that there are rumblings of a service to Africa and that Maersk are increasing their Copenhagen by adding an additional Sunder evening flight.

On a seperate note, I see that there is talk of the FLS hangar - now owned by SR Technics - being brought back into proper full use. Could this also involve the British Airways hangar?

[Curious Pax]

TCM's list implies that Air Berlin are dropping their Hamburg flight - is this correct? Their website is still taking bookings, and a few of the flights from May onwards are already showing an availability of less than 9 seats.

[This Charming Man]

AB to HAM

Curious Pax

Well spotted, HAM is still alive and well for the summer05.

brgds
TCM

[Vuelo]

Jet2.lowloads

Jet2 did very badly today, they carried a meagre 27 passengers on their early afternoon Manchester to Gatwick....surely this can;t carry on...?

[eggc]

i would agree, these load factors cant continue....but i think they will improve rather that pull the plug so early - after all jet2 tried hard to get these rights and i find it hard to see how it wont work - although Vuelo you pax figures are scary !

[Going loco]

Why do you find it hard to see why it won't work? Dumping 900 seats per day into a city to city market which is already at over-capacity at precicesly the time the railways are getting their act together struck me as a dumb move? Remember, Jet2's pricing on this route is still at a rate which is less than cost. The idea is you fill the planes early doors and the hope the custom sticks when you move the pricing to something you can make money out of. If you're getting loads in the 20s with £9 fares, it's never going to work; believe me.

Plan A was to use the LGW slots for an LBA servivce which is exactly what they should have done.

loco

[flighy by night]

Jet2 did very badly today, they carried a meagre 27 passengers on their early afternoon Manchester to Gatwick....surely this can;t carry on...?

[QUOTE]
Jet2 officials vitiated Liverpool yesterday for talks, whats going on also BA looking to go LOC at LIVERPOOL also in talks.
Watch out Easy

[coasting]

JET 2 Budapest

Noticed on the Jet 2 web site that the Budapest is being knocked off on Tuesdays and Wednesdays from !st July until the end of the summer. Is this route underperfoming also? I think they should very quickly transfer this flight and the Gatwick flight to Leeds where their success appears to go from strength to strength.

[elgan]

To follow the Jet2 loads, when i flew with them to LGW on the 29/1 ther were 34 of us on board, and when i flew with them a week back today 02/2, there were only 24 of us on board.
More ads are needed i think!

[Vuelo]

Why not just operate a 24hr, hourly shuttle to Malaga? It'd do better than BUD and LGW. Budapest is boring and thats why noone wants to go!

I dot hold out much for the AMS routes wither......

[aeulad]

The Budapest route is performing very well, and one would assume Vuelo has never been to BUD assuming it is 'boring'. The Amsterdam route will come up against some stiff competition from KLM, but there is certainly a market for lower fares on the route. I would have thought a twice daily flight would have sufficed.

Regards

Mike

I also agree the LGW schedule should be reduced to twice daily and move to LBA.

Regards

Mike

[GOLF-INDIA BRAVO]

Citiexpress must we worried about them on Amsterdam with them pulling off
but if Easyjet can do it from Liverpool I`m sure Jet2 can

I don`t remember seeing an advert for Gatwick but have for just about all the others

G-I-B

[EGCC]

More Jet2 ads needed? Surely not! Manchester is full of them everywhere!

[elgan]

Well one or two further afield say here in North Wales, eg local news would go a long way! Flybe and RYR do it, theres an ad nearly every day in the North Wales Daily Post

[Sir George Cayley]

Does the Team think that part of Jet 2's problems revolve around the Ternimals they use?

Departing from MAN T2 but on arrival being bussed to T3 Domestic Arrivals must make life difficult especially when being met.

But there again 'spose for nine quid...............


Sir George Cayley

[dwlpl]

If a passenger has booked a flight for £9 does that passenger know/care what terminal he/she uses?

[GOLF-INDIA BRAVO]

Is that not the same as VLM etc do?

G-I-B

[Scottie Dog]

Sir George

Beg to differ, but Jet2 operate from T1 at Manchester and therefore the only difference is which part of the 'old' terminal the arrive back into.

After all, T3 is only an expanded Pier A of the original 1962 Terminal - which is now T1.

Regards

[Bagso]

We are now all aware of the slot applications re 2005

Two points:-

Some airlines appear to have canx because of chronic Man airport restrictions whilst other have as usual just not taken plans forward due to internal commercial decisions !

Therefore my question to the team is...

"is that now IT in terms of future long haul growth"

On the basis that most long hauls arrive in the morning and we have no slot capacity available the inescapable conclusion is that we now stuck ?

Apart from maybe a straggler starting late morning or in the afternoon I am at a loss as to how things will change ...!


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Also how well do we think the airport actually performs - does it do well due to the management structure being proactive and canvassing airlines to come in...?

..... OR does it do well despite the managment through organic growth that simply put would take place if they sat back and did nothing...!

Comments please ?

[Caslance]

Not quite, Scottie Dog.

You're correct in saying that T3 includes part of the original T1, but the bulk of T3 "proper" is a much newer building used by American, Finnair, SN Brussels and BA and it's franchisees.