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Looks daft doesn't it.......re 2005 slots "Airlines/Operators bid for said slots in late2004
All slot "requests" have until [mid?] January to accept or reject the "applied" for slot
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Looks daft doesn't it.......re 2005 slots "Airlines/Operators bid for said slots in late2004
All slot "requests" have until [mid?] January to accept or reject the "applied" for slot
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Sorry to have to say, but you really should take some of what is written on these threads with a pinch of salt.
Certainly my posting of Sunday was in such vane if you look at the wording...
"Try the following hypothesis....
easyJet to make a sneak suprise announcement at Manchester on Monday.
easyJet smuggle aircraft into Manchester in advance to give a backdrop for the press!!
Oh well. it was fun when I initially thought of it."
This was after the sudden arrival of an EZY flight as an emergency diversion.
As I said it was a hypothesis.
You will find that TCM speaks with a modicom of inside information. As to Vuelo and Gayrugbybloke, well they/he have/has - make up your own mind on whether it is plural or singular - been right on a number of occasions.
Remember what PPRuNE stands for? Yep that's right - Rumours and News. In this case it may be more Rumours than News (well at the moment anyway).
Well passed my bedtime - night night zzzzzzzzzzzz
Certainly my posting of Sunday was in such vane if you look at the wording...
"Try the following hypothesis....
easyJet to make a sneak suprise announcement at Manchester on Monday.
easyJet smuggle aircraft into Manchester in advance to give a backdrop for the press!!
Oh well. it was fun when I initially thought of it."
This was after the sudden arrival of an EZY flight as an emergency diversion.
As I said it was a hypothesis.
You will find that TCM speaks with a modicom of inside information. As to Vuelo and Gayrugbybloke, well they/he have/has - make up your own mind on whether it is plural or singular - been right on a number of occasions.
Remember what PPRuNE stands for? Yep that's right - Rumours and News. In this case it may be more Rumours than News (well at the moment anyway).
Well passed my bedtime - night night zzzzzzzzzzzz
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Was at "The Aviation Society" meeting tonight along with 180 others. It was a very interesting evening presented by members of MAPLC airport management. Future operations were only a small part of the evening and really didnt cover any new ground, most of the routes were indeed only slot applications and the presenters made that very clear. Easyjet came into that catagory.
Most interesting in my mind were Airindia to JFK and the return of Cathay, there were many airlines listed, some common some obscure, time will tell.
The other interesting development was the imminent start to the west apron extension, providing 8 (i think) wide body stands.
Incidently these meetings are open to non members, for a small fee and usually very interesting with many diverse subjects.
Most interesting in my mind were Airindia to JFK and the return of Cathay, there were many airlines listed, some common some obscure, time will tell.
The other interesting development was the imminent start to the west apron extension, providing 8 (i think) wide body stands.
Incidently these meetings are open to non members, for a small fee and usually very interesting with many diverse subjects.
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OK guys. This is the deal. We mods have better things to do than to wet nurse this thread on the current level of reports. Including slagging people off, being rude.
Either you get a grip or this thread goes. Its as simple as that.
We mods have had FIVE reports today of rudeness and slagging. Zero tolerance has just kicked in.
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Either you get a grip or this thread goes. Its as simple as that.
We mods have had FIVE reports today of rudeness and slagging. Zero tolerance has just kicked in.
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manchester route news as of 6th december
RULES ARE ,TO BE CONFIRMED IE SLOTS APPLIED FOR , CONFIRMED SLOTS TAKEN UP. JET 2 7 BASED B737-300s ,AFRIGIYAH ,TBC TRIPOLI A320s,ASIR CANADA BACK WITH B767-300s TO TORONTO,ALITALIA TBC TO ROME SUPER 80s,MILAN AAS IS WITH A319s,AIR INDIA ,TBC DEHLI-MAN-TORONTO -MAN-DEHLI B777s,FLY BE 4XDAILY BHD DHC 8s,BELAVIA TBC,COA 2ND DAILY EWR TBC B757s,CATHAT PACIFIC A340s HKG MAN VIA MOSCOW TBC,DELTA JFK-MAN B767s ,SHAMROCK CHANGE OF EQIPMENT FROM B737-500s TO A320s ON MOST DUB SERVICES,AND EXTRA FLIGHTS,EMIRATES MIDDAY CHANGE OF EQUIPMENT FROM A330 -200 TO B777-300,EASYJET SLOTS APPLIED FOR KEY ONES COMFIMING WHAT BASE STILL TALKING TO MAN???,LH ADD 3RD DAILY HAMBURG,LOT UPGRADE TO EMB 170s,SWISS NEW DAILY GVA,MALEV DAILYM BUDAPEST TBC,SKY EUROPE TBC,ESTONIAN TBC,ALIA(RJ) A310s AMMAN -MAN TBC,2X WEEKLY,LITHUWANIAN,TBC,TURKISH TO GO DAILY B737-800s,BMI BABY 4 BASED B737s,AIR ADRIATIC MD80s TO PULA,ZOOM 2XWEEKLY TO YYZ,AST 2X WKLY TO ITALY,FC NEW 1 WEEKLY NASSAU,FLY AIR 2X WEEKLY IST,WORLDFOCUS MD80s TODALAMAN THATS IT ON NEW ROUTE NEWS
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Is BACX being run as an LC. Whom are its considered competitors and if they are the LC's then clearly we operate the wrong a/c and probably pay out to much in staff costs. It can surely only be a matter of time that without significant changes to BACX and where it sits in the plan of things, it must fail or be sold on. At presnt it seems to BA mainline that you are let down by the lack of direction. That said that is exactly how many feel at LGW & LHR (nil direction).
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lack of directin
HZ123 do you think BACX management has a problem with it not know which way it wants to go or is it Big Airline that is tieing their hands as to what they can do? ie not giving them the freedom to operate as they see fit?
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
Can we please just clarify one simple point which may help to resolve some of the silly unpleasantness on this thread. There is absolutely NO suggestion that EZY are going to up sticks from LPL and move to MAN.
What is actually under consideration is the possibility of running a programme ex-MAN in addition to the LPL operation. This may or may not happen. Since setting up the LPL hub, several changes have occurred within the market to prompt EZY to consider their options. In their early days at LPL they had the 'no-frills' market from Northern England/North Wales almost to themselves. Customers would happily travel from the Midlands or Yorkshire to avail themselves of a discounted flight ex-LPL. But now they no longer have to do this.
The Midlands airports EMA/CVT/BHX are saturated with no-frills choices. LBA has its extensive Jet 2 base. NCL has EZY, MME has BMI Baby. DSA opens shortly with TOM. And MAN at last has a meaningful 'no-frills' presence with Jet 2, BMI Baby, Air Berlin (full-frills actually!) and others.
All this means that EZY's core market ex-LPL has shrunk from a catchment area of the entire North of England to Merseyside and North Wales only. And the Merseyside/North Wales catchment area is now under assault from RYR and FlyBe too. So, if EZY wish to protect their market share in the North they will have to consider an additional gateway to supplement LPL, NCL and EMA (I include EMA as it draws some traffic from the North).
The other significant factor favouring the possible selection of MAN as an EZY gateway has been the apparent success of the LGW operation. EZY has expanded quickly at LGW, and succeeded in not cannibalising it's STN/LTN hubs by so doing. The parallels with establishing neighbouring operations at LPL and MAN are obvious.
Now I am happy to confirm that I have no inside knowledge as to whether EZY will choose to serve MAN or not. We will all find out when an announcement is made or when slots are handed back. And I know that most of what I write here is obvious to the majority of you (but apparently not to all). Be assured there is no intention to insult your intelligence but rather to silence this ridiculous slanging match between certain parties on this thread. EZY is NOT leaving LPL; they may however establish a parallel operation ex-MAN on a scale to be announced in the future. We must all wait and see!
Can we please just clarify one simple point which may help to resolve some of the silly unpleasantness on this thread. There is absolutely NO suggestion that EZY are going to up sticks from LPL and move to MAN.
What is actually under consideration is the possibility of running a programme ex-MAN in addition to the LPL operation. This may or may not happen. Since setting up the LPL hub, several changes have occurred within the market to prompt EZY to consider their options. In their early days at LPL they had the 'no-frills' market from Northern England/North Wales almost to themselves. Customers would happily travel from the Midlands or Yorkshire to avail themselves of a discounted flight ex-LPL. But now they no longer have to do this.
The Midlands airports EMA/CVT/BHX are saturated with no-frills choices. LBA has its extensive Jet 2 base. NCL has EZY, MME has BMI Baby. DSA opens shortly with TOM. And MAN at last has a meaningful 'no-frills' presence with Jet 2, BMI Baby, Air Berlin (full-frills actually!) and others.
All this means that EZY's core market ex-LPL has shrunk from a catchment area of the entire North of England to Merseyside and North Wales only. And the Merseyside/North Wales catchment area is now under assault from RYR and FlyBe too. So, if EZY wish to protect their market share in the North they will have to consider an additional gateway to supplement LPL, NCL and EMA (I include EMA as it draws some traffic from the North).
The other significant factor favouring the possible selection of MAN as an EZY gateway has been the apparent success of the LGW operation. EZY has expanded quickly at LGW, and succeeded in not cannibalising it's STN/LTN hubs by so doing. The parallels with establishing neighbouring operations at LPL and MAN are obvious.
Now I am happy to confirm that I have no inside knowledge as to whether EZY will choose to serve MAN or not. We will all find out when an announcement is made or when slots are handed back. And I know that most of what I write here is obvious to the majority of you (but apparently not to all). Be assured there is no intention to insult your intelligence but rather to silence this ridiculous slanging match between certain parties on this thread. EZY is NOT leaving LPL; they may however establish a parallel operation ex-MAN on a scale to be announced in the future. We must all wait and see!
Shed-on-a-Pole
Fantastic - a bit of common sense. Well said!
Fantastic - a bit of common sense. Well said!
T21 could very well be correct, as I recently carried boxes of BAe 146 flight manuals to Bristol, and as there is no training dept or dedicated 146 engineering facility at that base, many eyebrows were raised.
Of course it could just be a management double bluff.
Of course it could just be a management double bluff.
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Hi,
Have had a spare ten minutes and have had a look where MAN is today….
Operators and frequencies as of today are, on a normal operating week day :-
AAL 767’s 2 x daily
ABB 737’s 3 x daily
AJM 340’s 2 x wk
AZA 319’s 2 x daily
BTI 737’s 3 x wk
COA 777’s 1 x daily
CSA 737’s 13 x wk
DAL 763’s 1 x daily
DAT ARJ’s 3 x daily
DLH EQV 12 x daily
EIN 737’s x 5 daily
FIN 320/319 x 2 daily
HLX 737’s x 2 daily
KLM 737/Fk100 x 7 daily
KTHY 321’s x 3 wk
LGL ERJ’s x 1 daily
LOT ERJ170’s x 1 daily
MAS 744’s x 1 daily
MSK 737’s x 1 daily
OAL 737’s x 2 wk
PGA Fk100’s x 1 daily
PIA 747/777’s x 25 wk
QTR 330’s x 4 wk
REA ATR’s x 3 daily
RYR 737’s x 4 daily
SAS Md80/737’s x 7 daily
SDR ERJ’s x 1 daily
SQA 747/777’s x 1 daily
SWR ARJ/ERJ’s x 4 daily
THY 737’s x 5 wk
UAE 330’s x 2 daily
VLM Fk50’s x 9 daily
VIR 747’s x 1 daily
This list does NOT include :-
BAW – 1 based 767 & several regional a/c, numerous daily rotations
JET2 – upto 6 based next year – 13 daily depatures
BMIBABY – 4 based a/c, several daily flights
BMI – 3 based 330’s & several regional a/c, numerous daily rotations
plus other U.K. operators i.e Aurigny, Eastern, Flybe etc etc
and any charter operators ( massive business at MAN, with numerous airlines basing numerous a/c )
and any cargo operations ( upto 5 dedicated 747’s per day ).
All in all looking up at list, enough to keep us busy ;-)
I can see many gap’s in the market at MAN, perhaps airlines would like to browse the above list and add themselves forthwith.
Questions are coming out of my ears about expansion, and the coping with, but I am sure these are also being asked by MAplc, who must be planning for the imminent expansion of movements and destinations…if they aren’t I can see trouble ahead…
Ramp space is worth more than gold at MAN at the minute.
Any thoughts….
p.s Amazing what you can do in 10 mis ;-)
Have had a spare ten minutes and have had a look where MAN is today….
Operators and frequencies as of today are, on a normal operating week day :-
AAL 767’s 2 x daily
ABB 737’s 3 x daily
AJM 340’s 2 x wk
AZA 319’s 2 x daily
BTI 737’s 3 x wk
COA 777’s 1 x daily
CSA 737’s 13 x wk
DAL 763’s 1 x daily
DAT ARJ’s 3 x daily
DLH EQV 12 x daily
EIN 737’s x 5 daily
FIN 320/319 x 2 daily
HLX 737’s x 2 daily
KLM 737/Fk100 x 7 daily
KTHY 321’s x 3 wk
LGL ERJ’s x 1 daily
LOT ERJ170’s x 1 daily
MAS 744’s x 1 daily
MSK 737’s x 1 daily
OAL 737’s x 2 wk
PGA Fk100’s x 1 daily
PIA 747/777’s x 25 wk
QTR 330’s x 4 wk
REA ATR’s x 3 daily
RYR 737’s x 4 daily
SAS Md80/737’s x 7 daily
SDR ERJ’s x 1 daily
SQA 747/777’s x 1 daily
SWR ARJ/ERJ’s x 4 daily
THY 737’s x 5 wk
UAE 330’s x 2 daily
VLM Fk50’s x 9 daily
VIR 747’s x 1 daily
This list does NOT include :-
BAW – 1 based 767 & several regional a/c, numerous daily rotations
JET2 – upto 6 based next year – 13 daily depatures
BMIBABY – 4 based a/c, several daily flights
BMI – 3 based 330’s & several regional a/c, numerous daily rotations
plus other U.K. operators i.e Aurigny, Eastern, Flybe etc etc
and any charter operators ( massive business at MAN, with numerous airlines basing numerous a/c )
and any cargo operations ( upto 5 dedicated 747’s per day ).
All in all looking up at list, enough to keep us busy ;-)
I can see many gap’s in the market at MAN, perhaps airlines would like to browse the above list and add themselves forthwith.
Questions are coming out of my ears about expansion, and the coping with, but I am sure these are also being asked by MAplc, who must be planning for the imminent expansion of movements and destinations…if they aren’t I can see trouble ahead…
Ramp space is worth more than gold at MAN at the minute.
Any thoughts….
p.s Amazing what you can do in 10 mis ;-)
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Jet 2 Edinburgh/Manchester
Looking at the schedules, it appears to be an Edinburgh based aircraft. This must be the QC version used for night mail.
Does this mean another cabin crew base at Edinburgh ? Good news anyway.
Does this mean another cabin crew base at Edinburgh ? Good news anyway.
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Another possibility has been posted on taxiwayalpha to keep it Leeds based.
TUTH
http://www.taxiwayalpha.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1021
Another possibility has been posted on taxiwayalpha to keep it Leeds based.
TUTH
http://www.taxiwayalpha.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1021