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I won't lie though, I am starting to worry that the route still hasn't been extended over the winter period. Probably the most profitable period as those living in GB or NI scramble to get home!
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It has cost the republic's taxpayer a bit though due to the new terminal which sadly opened during the current downturn.
Dublin airport is costing the taxpayer a heck of a lot more in the south. Should they close that airport to save money? No cause that'd be ridiculous!
Its not costing us anything, and thats why most people are delighted with the new T2, hopefully the economy will begin its ''BIG'' turn-around in late 11' or maybe well into 12' and im sure the Olympics will give the whole of Ireland a boost too.
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Seats not available in the seat selection process does not mean they are booked already.Could be not enough pax are booked already and weigh and balance/load factor has something to do with it.
Seats not available in the seat selection process does not mean they are booked already.Could be not enough pax are booked already and weigh and balance/load factor has something to do with it.
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Apologies for the delay in reply. You can get all the stats you like for CODA (and all others) at the following link:
UK Airport Statistics | Aviation Intelligence | Regulatory Policy
Apologies for the delay in reply. You can get all the stats you like for CODA (and all others) at the following link:
UK Airport Statistics | Aviation Intelligence | Regulatory Policy
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Cheers CU! Wasn't sure how to find it before, all the excel file names just confuse me!
Just wanted to try and give everyone perspective due to the lack of figures for April last year. My working out is going on the fact that it the last couple of days since the source said we were a couple of hundred short of 30k, we've now made 30k pax this month.
LDY Figures
March 08 - 40,110 March 09 - 25,582 March 10 - 27,976 March 11 - 29,515
March 11 was a decrease of 35.9% on 08, increase of 13.3% on 09 & increase of 5.3% on 10.
April 08 - 35,265 April 09 - 26,326 April 10 - 20,788 April 11 - c.30,000
April was a decrease of 17.6% on 08, and an increase of 12.2% on 09 with no accurate increase on 10.
So 30k or more looks the most inline with growth rates but still sad to see how far behind we are on 2008. But we'll be back at that sooner or later!
Edit - What I might be interested in doing this monthly breakdown for each year from 08 when the STN flights go double daily. This will help us see if LDY is increasing or still behind on 2008 levels with the extra rotations taken into account.
Just wanted to try and give everyone perspective due to the lack of figures for April last year. My working out is going on the fact that it the last couple of days since the source said we were a couple of hundred short of 30k, we've now made 30k pax this month.
LDY Figures
March 08 - 40,110 March 09 - 25,582 March 10 - 27,976 March 11 - 29,515
March 11 was a decrease of 35.9% on 08, increase of 13.3% on 09 & increase of 5.3% on 10.
April 08 - 35,265 April 09 - 26,326 April 10 - 20,788 April 11 - c.30,000
April was a decrease of 17.6% on 08, and an increase of 12.2% on 09 with no accurate increase on 10.
So 30k or more looks the most inline with growth rates but still sad to see how far behind we are on 2008. But we'll be back at that sooner or later!
Edit - What I might be interested in doing this monthly breakdown for each year from 08 when the STN flights go double daily. This will help us see if LDY is increasing or still behind on 2008 levels with the extra rotations taken into account.
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Why is there a lack of figures for last year? The figure I have for April 2010 was 20,788. Seems about right to me because of the ash cloud.
What is the story with Birmingham, is it definitely coming back - still not bookable?
I see that LDY has been moved from the UK list to the Ireland list on the Ryanair home page drop down menus, they should really put it in twice - as Derry on the Ireland list and as L'Derry on the UK one - keep everybody happy!
What is the story with Birmingham, is it definitely coming back - still not bookable?
I see that LDY has been moved from the UK list to the Ireland list on the Ryanair home page drop down menus, they should really put it in twice - as Derry on the Ireland list and as L'Derry on the UK one - keep everybody happy!
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I see that LDY has been moved from the UK list to the Ireland list on the Ryanair home page drop down menus, they should really put it in twice - as Derry on the Ireland list and as L'Derry on the UK one - keep everybody happy!
Kinocker, as a frequent user of FR out of Derry, I can confirm it has always been on the Ireland section.
I believe Northern Counties has ignored April 2010 because there is no point comparing April 2010 (severe disruption and many cancellations) with April 2011 (no disruption, no cancellations). Therefore, it makes more sense to use April 2009 for comparison.
As for BHX. Who knows? Perhaps Carnmanorlad can ask his contact in Dublin.
I believe Northern Counties has ignored April 2010 because there is no point comparing April 2010 (severe disruption and many cancellations) with April 2011 (no disruption, no cancellations). Therefore, it makes more sense to use April 2009 for comparison.
As for BHX. Who knows? Perhaps Carnmanorlad can ask his contact in Dublin.
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Hi Kniocker, I didn't include it at first cause I wasn't sure how representable of the real pax had there not been the issues with the volcano - I have however now updated it! 
I definitely seen Derry under UK last week as I was looking for flights home... I wonder whether the whole hype around the jobs creation from tourism in the republic has anything to do with it. They're demanding more flights to the republic with the scrapping of the €3 tax and a visa waver program of two weeks for 14 countries... perhaps Ryanair is hoping the hype around it could get some numbers up on the Derry route even though nothing applies to the airport as it is in the UK... merely speculating though.
I definitely seen Derry under UK last week as I was looking for flights home... I wonder whether the whole hype around the jobs creation from tourism in the republic has anything to do with it. They're demanding more flights to the republic with the scrapping of the €3 tax and a visa waver program of two weeks for 14 countries... perhaps Ryanair is hoping the hype around it could get some numbers up on the Derry route even though nothing applies to the airport as it is in the UK... merely speculating though.
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Kinocker, as a frequent user of FR out of Derry, I can confirm it was always been on the Ireland section
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cuthere, it has always been in Ireland list, you are correct but since Ryanair modified it's website recently in the destination selection for booking it has been under UK. I noticed this as it was always under Ireland classification before!
EI-Bud (anyone else who's interested), have a look at booking a flight from Birmingham to LDY. When you click to select the destination airport from Birmingham, Derry is in the Ireland section.
But at the end of the day, this is essentially an irrelevance.
But at the end of the day, this is essentially an irrelevance.
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cuthere, I agree it is not really relevant, you are correct with what you are saying, it is under Ireland now.
I am only saying that there was a change since Ryanair changed their website. When you click From (list of airports appears across screen) LDY/Derry/Londonderry airport was listed under UK while it was before that under Ireland. Now I see since yesterday it has been changed to being listed under Ireland.
I am only saying that there was a change since Ryanair changed their website. When you click From (list of airports appears across screen) LDY/Derry/Londonderry airport was listed under UK while it was before that under Ireland. Now I see since yesterday it has been changed to being listed under Ireland.
Who knows what RYR are playing at with the website then. Perhaps they'll get the LDY-BHX route sorted out at some point.
Anyway, I hope I didn't offend you EI-Bud, it was only my intention to move the discussion on. Discussions in the past about LDY, its name, and which country it's in etc etc have only ever degenerated into ugly political point scoring.
Anyway, I hope I didn't offend you EI-Bud, it was only my intention to move the discussion on. Discussions in the past about LDY, its name, and which country it's in etc etc have only ever degenerated into ugly political point scoring.
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Hey cuthere, you didnt offend me one bit! I have no interest as to which country FR think LDY is in, however, I did notice it odd. Your posts are always good so wasnt having a go at you, as I always enjoy your contributions!
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As all have said, it really doesn't matter - its just that someone wanting to fly from the UK to NI might look at the UK list and think that RYR don't serve NI anymore and then book easyjet or something. Given that LDYs catchment area spans both sides of the border it would seem appropriate to list it in both places so that potential passengers are not lost to other airlines and airports.
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As for BHX. Who knows? Perhaps Carnmanorlad can ask his contact in Dublin.
As I write this I´m sitting in Tenerife!
Had the pleasure of flying from CODA yesterday and the flight had very few spare seats. I´d estimate 165-170 PAX on board. The captain did make full use of the runway for take-off.
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As far as my mate is aware there has been talk of replacing BHX with EMA. He doesn´t know why but if i find out anymore i´ll post it here.
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Just a week left until the MAN route starts!
After the RE saga last year I'm relieved to see that this route is obviously somewhat sustainable - would still naturally like to see it introduced year round, but the route could still prove itself before September!
Edit - And regarding moving back to EMA, I hope that's not the case! Personally, I always found BHX more convenient going to LDY and I thought the loads were higher as others seemed to feel likewise.
It could however be a blessing in disguise as there would be a market there for BE to swoop in and take advantage of!
After the RE saga last year I'm relieved to see that this route is obviously somewhat sustainable - would still naturally like to see it introduced year round, but the route could still prove itself before September!
Edit - And regarding moving back to EMA, I hope that's not the case! Personally, I always found BHX more convenient going to LDY and I thought the loads were higher as others seemed to feel likewise.
It could however be a blessing in disguise as there would be a market there for BE to swoop in and take advantage of!
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